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Old 08-29-2017, 10:28 AM
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Freedom Munitions is running a Labor Day promotion using a Bushmaster QRC as a premium for a 5,000 round purchase. As we all know, that gun cannot be shipped to CA. This is not there first snub of there CA customers. Here is my email to them:

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I know you don't set policy at Freedom, but you know the person that does. Please share this with that person.

The state of California wants guns eliminated. They pass laws to make it miserable to own a gun for recreation. In turn, this makes life difficult for suppliers of gun related products -- like ammo. Some suppliers have flatly refused to supply California gun owners.

As a result, we feel abandoned or disrespected by the very people who should support our gun sport struggles in return for long term sales and profits. You could say it puts a "chip" on our shoulder.

When you run a promotion that excludes every high volume ammo purchaser in California, that chip gets very heavy. It is bad business in my opinion -- and bad gun support.
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Old 08-29-2017, 10:34 AM
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Old 08-29-2017, 10:37 AM
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Old 08-29-2017, 10:38 AM
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You reap what you sow California gun owners.

YOU let this happen, now everyone in the country should take notice.



I can tell you that the rest of the country is undoubtedly taking notice that you CaSheePle are registering your AW's at a alarming rate prior to the deadline.
You do know that emboldens them don't you?

So with that said, the people who ARE REGISTERING ARE ACTUALLY HURTING THE 2nd CAUSE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
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yeah.... OP be entitled.

do you send the same emails to palmetto state armory when they run deals of like ammo + 30 rounder magazines?

once Jan 1st 2018 rolls around, Freedom will barely have to worry about CA customers cause it would nearly be cut down to 0.
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You reap what you sow California gun owners.

YOU let this happen, now everyone in the country should take notice.



I can tell you that the rest of the country is undoubtedly taking notice that you CaSheePle are registering your AW's at a alarming rate prior to the deadline.
You do know that emboldens them don't you?

So with that said, the people who ARE REGISTERING ARE ACTUALLY HURTING THE 2nd CAUSE ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
I see people who are registering AWs as those willing to stand up and be counted instead of hiding in the closet and praying that they are not found out. I'm not for registration of any kind but, in this case, I think everyone should register a few to help prove they are in common use. There are reasons that the DOJ has made it hard to register AWs this round. It sure isn't because they want us to register. They are doing EVERYTHING in their power (and more) to stop people from registering. I have to ask WHY? Anyway, you can either stay in the closet or stand up and be counted. The problem with TFH gun owners is they refuse to put themselves on the front lines of the fight but would rather blame "the NRA" and other organizations every time a new anti 2A law is passed.
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Soooooo, what did Freedom Munitions say?
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Yea blame FM of California's stupid F-in laws. Sounds about right.
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Lol people who are registering their Semi auto rifles are hurting the second by bending over willfully and taking it like the good little statist sheep they are
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I see people who are registering AWs as those willing to stand up and be counted instead of hiding in the closet and praying that they are not found out. I'm not for registration of any kind but, in this case, I think everyone should register a few to help prove they are in common use. There are reasons that the DOJ has made it hard to register AWs this round. It sure isn't because they want us to register. They are doing EVERYTHING in their power (and more) to stop people from registering. I have to ask WHY? Anyway, you can either stay in the closet or stand up and be counted. The problem with TFH gun owners is they refuse to put themselves on the front lines of the fight but would rather blame "the NRA" and other organizations every time a new anti 2A law is passed.
So lets get this straight, A anti gun run state decides without your vote, or even the ability to contest a law that goes directly against the US constitution and you think that by lining up prior to the deadline in mass numbers is FIGHTING THEM?


The greatest problem with California is the fact that people here can take a fact, and turn it to be whatever they want, and the entitlement mentality of this state will support it. Opposite world.


Yes buddy, you guys are straight up patriots, fighting the machine that is slowly destroying our way of life. Practically heroes!
You legally don't even have to register yet, so by running to sign up you are basically showing them that it doesn't matter what they throw at you, they are going to get it without a fight. Good job.


You early birds are a disgrace to Americans. Granted many of you have never lived outside this crap hole state so you don't really know what that word means.

Just the fact that you would think you are FIGHTING shows the rest of the country just how far this state is from reality and lets us all know exactly HOW they managed to pull this ban off.
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How dare they have a sale that doesn't cater to your specific requirements.....
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So lets get this straight, A anti gun run state decides without your vote, or even the ability to contest a law that goes directly against the US constitution and you think that by lining up prior to the deadline in mass numbers is FIGHTING THEM?


The greatest problem with California is the fact that people here can take a fact, and turn it to be whatever they want, and the entitlement mentality of this state will support it. Opposite world.


Yes buddy, you guys are straight up patriots, fighting the machine that is slowly destroying our way of life. Practically heroes!
You legally don't even have to register yet, so by running to sign up you are basically showing them that it doesn't matter what they throw at you, they are going to get it without a fight. Good job.


You early birds are a disgrace to Americans. Granted many of you have never lived outside this crap hole state so you don't really know what that word means.

Just the fact that you would think you are FIGHTING shows the rest of the country just how far this state is from reality and lets us all know exactly HOW they managed to pull this ban off.
If were such idiots and live in such a crap hole state why are you trolling the site?
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I see people who are registering AWs as those willing to stand up and be counted instead of hiding in the closet and praying that they are not found out. I'm not for registration of any kind but, in this case, I think everyone should register a few to help prove they are in common use. There are reasons that the DOJ has made it hard to register AWs this round. It sure isn't because they want us to register. They are doing EVERYTHING in their power (and more) to stop people from registering. I have to ask WHY? Anyway, you can either stay in the closet or stand up and be counted. The problem with TFH gun owners is they refuse to put themselves on the front lines of the fight but would rather blame "the NRA" and other organizations every time a new anti 2A law is passed.


I've always respected your posts and you are one of the more thoughtful CG'rs. I should be so. But I'm gonna disagree here.

For one, there is technically nothing inherently unconstitutional about registration as it falls well within INTRAstate commerce. We will lose any attempts at killing registration. Cars are registered. Many products are serialized and you can register with manufacture for warranty. And that includes guns too. And registration doesn't imply any sort of restriction. Besides, it allows for return of stolen property, and insurance, and tracing criminal activity. There might very well be a state interest in registration. It's the risk that we all fear, that of confiscation and other assorted things. Registering what was previously not, only aids them and demonstrates they can do more and more. And they can make it more difficult for us.

Two, we fall back on common use. I get it. That's the heller decision. So we make our point by common usage here. But it's irrelevant because it's nationally already in common use. So our participation is not significant.

Third, and more to the point, the less that gets registered demonstrates the laws impact of being an effectual ban, of common use guns. We're actually better off not registering in that we can show the courts that the law has prohibited common use firearms. If we get 1 million volregs all we have shown is how widespread they already are. Although dros records are fairly comprehensive. Widespread volreg makes their case.

And, if it ends at volreg than the courts won't see a ban. And one would need look no further than a turners ad to see all kinds of featureless rifles offered for sale. Which means that very similar rifles are readily available and we won't get any push from the courts. We have to not volreg (maybe go featureless for those who can) and push the tyrants in excremento to force an outright ban on all SACF. Period.

That's the only way the courts will even bother to hear our case. We have to expose their true intent.

I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time. Won't be the last.
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This. And in 4 months, won't matter.
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So lets get this straight, A anti gun run state decides without your vote, or even the ability to contest a law that goes directly against the US constitution and you think that by lining up prior to the deadline in mass numbers is FIGHTING THEM?


The greatest problem with California is the fact that people here can take a fact, and turn it to be whatever they want, and the entitlement mentality of this state will support it. Opposite world.


Yes buddy, you guys are straight up patriots, fighting the machine that is slowly destroying our way of life. Practically heroes!
You legally don't even have to register yet, so by running to sign up you are basically showing them that it doesn't matter what they throw at you, they are going to get it without a fight. Good job.


You early birds are a disgrace to Americans. Granted many of you have never lived outside this crap hole state so you don't really know what that word means.

Just the fact that you would think you are FIGHTING shows the rest of the country just how far this state is from reality and lets us all know exactly HOW they managed to pull this ban off.
You youngins should learn from those who have already been through it instead of just pounding your keyboards. Ask those who didn't register the last three times about it. They are scared to take their guns out of their safes. Some have been arrested just because a "friend" or family member reports them. Others have been arrested because their illegal guns were discovered during a burglary investigation of house fire.

There are many ways to fight and your "hide in the closet" way has a long history of failing here. We need to do something different and come out of the closet and fight (within the law)!!!!!! Your idea of simply hiding isn't fighting at all. I feel sorry for anyone who thinks it is.

OK, before you go attacking me on a personal level, I suggest you do a little research and find out a little about me and what I have personally done to promote the freedoms of many members here. I'm positive that I have personally contributed a whole lot more than you have to this community and our freedoms than you have or will ever do. Yea, that's a friendly challenge. PLEASE prove me wrong.
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Freedom is in the process of setting up an FFL receiver network in California so we can still buy ammo from them. Hats off to Freedom for taking that initiative.

So OP, I simply can't get on your bandwagon. I'm with Freedom on this one and while I wish they had a CA option for this contest, I fully understand that sometimes things don't go my way.
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You youngins should learn from those who have already been through it instead of just pounding your keyboards. Ask those who didn't register the last three times about it. They are scared to take their guns out of their safes. Some have been arrested just because a "friend" or family member reports them. Others have been arrested because their illegal guns were discovered during a burglary investigation of house fire.

There are many ways to fight and your "hide in the closet" way has a long history of failing here. We need to do something different and come out of the closet and fight (within the law)!!!!!! Your idea of simply hiding isn't fighting at all. I feel sorry for anyone who thinks it is.

OK, before you go attacking me on a personal level, I suggest you do a little research and find out a little about me and what I have personally done to promote the freedoms of many members here. I'm positive that I have personally contributed a whole lot more than you have to this community and our freedoms than you have or will ever do. Yea, that's a friendly challenge. PLEASE prove me wrong.
Not attacking you personally, attacking the mentality that says registering is HELPING our cause.
Im not a young as you think.
Just the fact that you are basing your opinions out of fear of being arrested by a family member or having someone tell on you says exactly what we wanted to hear from you.

Your not lining up to protect our rights, you are lining up to not get into trouble. Its really just that simple.
Its not personal, Someone can tell you your actions are against free thinking and not think of you less as a person.

I tried, now Im leaving. Through the many moves that come with military parents, then my own service including two deployments, to my wanderlust and love of seeing new states I have learned that this state is by far the worst I have come across. Its not the state, its the people and the mentality.

Its as if its a hereditary issue, the state laws have bred fear and compliance into its subjects.
I liken many of the people here to ghosts of Americans. Walking, talking and tax paying law abiding apparitions of what true Americans used to be.
But as long as you think your fighting the good fight that is all that counts.

Im sure there were many Jews who proudly announced that wearing the star and marching directly into the ghettos is fighting the Nazi's as well.

Good luck on your battle. And again, its not personal.
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I'm positive that I have personally contributed a whole lot more than you have to this community and our freedoms than you have or will ever do. Yea, that's a friendly challenge. PLEASE prove me wrong.
We don't know each other, so I won't take your road of tooting your own horn.
I have no need to prove what you or I have done. Im sure you have done many things that I have no knowledge of, and the same goes for me.
I can only comment on a mentality what you openly said.

But you reap what you sow, and the reason why more and more companies will drop off and stop working with this state is because you are openly lining up to register your weapons. How can anyone trust their livelihood with a group of people who don't even respect the Constitution and laws themselves?
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Not attacking you personally, attacking the mentality that says registering is HELPING our cause.
Im not a young as you think.
Just the fact that you are basing your opinions out of fear of being arrested by a family member or having someone tell on you says exactly what we wanted to hear from you.

Your not lining up to protect our rights, you are lining up to not get into trouble. Its really just that simple.
Its not personal, Someone can tell you your actions are against free thinking and not think of you less as a person.

I tried, now Im leaving. Through the many moves that come with military parents, then my own service including two deployments, to my wanderlust and love of seeing new states I have learned that this state is by far the worst I have come across. Its not the state, its the people and the mentality.

Its as if its a hereditary issue, the state laws have bred fear and compliance into its subjects.
I liken many of the people here to ghosts of Americans. Walking, talking and tax paying law abiding apparitions of what true Americans used to be.
But as long as you think your fighting the good fight that is all that counts.

Im sure there were many Jews who proudly announced that wearing the star and marching directly into the ghettos is fighting the Nazi's as well.

Good luck on your battle. And again, its not personal.
The reason registering will help our cause is because, we will still be legal and able to use our resources to legally fight these laws instead of to fight to stay out of prison. Yea, that isn't what you want to hear but, it is more logical than not registering. I'm not saying to register everything. I think everyone should keep a few unregistered featureless guns around. Also, you didn't address why you think DOJ is making the latest registration process so complicated and hard. I'm not sure why either but, it is obvious that they do NOT WANT anyone to register. There has to be a reason why they are doing this and, I would rather put my money on going against their wishes and registering than I would on non compliance.
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We don't know each other, so I won't take your road of tooting your own horn.
I have no need to prove what you or I have done. Im sure you have done many things that I have no knowledge of, and the same goes for me.
I can only comment on a mentality what you openly said.

But you reap what you sow, and the reason why more and more companies will drop off and stop working with this state is because you are openly lining up to register your weapons. How can anyone trust their livelihood with a group of people who don't even respect the Constitution and laws themselves?
Yup, we have to work within the law until we can either change it or get it ruled unconstitutional.

BTW, I wasn't trying to toot my own horn, I was trying to challenge/motivate you (and everyone else who reads this) to stop hiding and get out and actually do productive things to promote our rights.
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OP, why is FM responsible for CAs stupid gun laws? Should they have to check the regs of EVERY STATE before giving away a promotional item or incentive?

I remember a couple years ago, there was a CLP T-Shirt promotion from an online store. But they could not ship the t-Shirt into CA because it said it "Cleans" and it was against some obscure law that ca has about cleaning product misrepresentation.

One time I had a hard time buying PROTEIN POWDER online because a bunch of the ones I was trying to buy, didn't have the CA Approved ingredients list.

Neither of these problems were the vendors fault either. Blame Cali.
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, I would rather put my money on going against their wishes and registering than I would on non compliance.
Yes because paying them your money is definitely showing them you mean business.
Im having trouble taking you seriously at this point.
So let me get this straight, you actually believe that they make it hard to register so that you giving them money, and trying even HARDER TO REGISTER is showing them?
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Yup, we have to work within the law until we can either change it or get it ruled unconstitutional.

BTW, I wasn't trying to toot my own horn, I was trying to challenge/motivate you (and everyone else who reads this) to stop hiding and get out and actually do productive things to promote our rights.
Yes, thanks for the motivation. It actually helped. Ive already made an offer on property in another state, seeing a well respected member here totally drink the koolaid and openly claim that the ovens aren't really that hot, and we are showing the nazi's by getting in ourselves is making me want to move this week even.

Im sure those that want these weapons removed are really proud of you. Telling other members that they are "getting out and fighting" by lining up to registering before the deadline even.

The productive word you used was awesome. Just whom is it productive too? Definitely not gun owners.
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Yes because paying them your money is definitely showing them you mean business.
Im having trouble taking you seriously at this point.
So let me get this straight, you actually believe that they make it hard to register so that you giving them money, and trying even HARDER TO REGISTER is showing them?
No, I didn't mean paying to register. I'm sorry that I used that analogy to express my feelings. I meant that I'm willing to bet that there's a reason that anti gun CA DOJ does NOT want us to register. So, because of that, I think we should all register a few and help contribute to the vast and already admittedly inaccurate CA AW registration system. Besides, like I've already mentioned, I know too many people who are sorry that they did not register anything during the last three registration period.
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Old 08-29-2017, 1:22 PM
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Yes, thanks for the motivation. It actually helped. Ive already made an offer on property in another state, seeing a well respected member here totally drink the koolaid and openly claim that the ovens aren't really that hot, and we are showing the nazi's by getting in ourselves is making me want to move this week even.

Im sure those that want these weapons removed are really proud of you. Telling other members that they are "getting out and fighting" by lining up to registering before the deadline even.

The productive word you used was awesome. Just whom is it productive too? Definitely not gun owners.
Some choose to stay and fight (within the law) while others choose to move their closets safely behind enemy lines and mock those who stay on the front lines (or behind them).

Yes, I have productively helped many members here. I don't see rallies and some other events as productive but, I do see openly inviting people to come to my home and legally manufacture their own AKs as productive. I see volunteering at events to introduce women to the shooting sports as productive. Volunteering to teach (and host) reloading clinics is productive. I also think helping people get their CA and AZ CCWs is pretty productive. Don't you? I don't see running as being productive but, at some point, I'm going to get worn out and probably follow you so, I can't fault you for surrendering/retreating.
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Old 08-29-2017, 1:33 PM
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1. Just because registration has not been a precursor for confiscation with other firearms does not mean that it won't be with "aw's"

2. I find it humorous that the left has finally made that mental switch even for us. An AR15 is not an AW....it's lacks the legal definition to be considered an assault weapon.

3. I would never openly suggest anyone break the law, however refusal to conform to unconstitutional laws or tyrannical decrees is the Hallmark of a real Patriot.

4. You can't really compare serializing and registering cars with that of firearms....it's not the same thing. No one is trying to ban cars outright.....oh wait California is with their proposed $0.67 per gallon tax hike....and the director of the clean air board who "wants to ban the internal combustion engine" but that is another story for another time.

5. Does this post really belong here? What exactly does it have to do with reloading? I get that it does in a secondary way...but clearly the intention was not to talk reloading.

6. To the out of state residents who claim this is our fault... First of all we didn't get a vote on this, second if you gather up every single pro gun voter in this state it's a spit in the bucket, and not even close to enough to vote out the D bags who are doing this to us...please read up on the voting history of California....deeply entrenched blue state...this fight was lost for good since 1986 and implying that we can do absolutely anything to stop it short of a full blown state revolution where we would be destroyed because we are severely outnumbered is lunacy. It runs the same vein of lunacy of people who think that if you don't vote blue in California your vote still matters....the numbers disprove that.

I can not fathom how a person would come to the conclusion that conforming to this registration somehow means we will be better represented. At what point in any of your time living here in California have any of you been left with the impression that our state government has any intention whatsoever of working with us when every single action they have taken regarding firearms has been a blantant move towards making firearm ownership so difficult that people will just give up.

Shouldn't the arbitrary reason for declaring the AR15 an AW and the mini 14 not an AW tell you everything you need to know about where this state is at with our rights? Shouldn't the arbitrary cash grab of our severely broken handgun roster be a clear indication to us about what the California government thinks of our rights? Shouldn't the last 30 years of constant anti gun bombardment of bills and laws make it super clear what the California state government intends to do with our gun rights?

Conforming to the registration is lawful, it is not constitutional nor does it bring us absolutely any representation.
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Why don't all the internet heroes / Anti-registration blowhards VOLUNTEER to be a test case?

Suddenly when it's THEIR money and freedom on the line they aren't so brave....
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1. Just because registration has not been a precursor for confiscation with other firearms does not mean that it won't be with "aw's"

2. I find it humorous that the left has finally made that mental switch even for us. An AR15 is not an AW....it's lacks the legal definition to be considered an assault weapon.

3. I would never openly suggest anyone break the law, however refusal to conform to unconstitutional laws or tyrannical decrees is the Hallmark of a real Patriot.

4. You can't really compare serializing and registering cars with that of firearms....it's not the same thing. No one is trying to ban cars outright.....oh wait California is with their proposed $0.67 per gallon tax hike....and the director of the clean air board who "wants to ban the internal combustion engine" but that is another story for another time.

5. Does this post really belong here? What exactly does it have to do with reloading? I get that it does in a secondary way...but clearly the intention was not to talk reloading.

6. To the out of state residents who claim this is our fault... First of all we didn't get a vote on this, second if you gather up every single pro gun voter in this state it's a spit in the bucket, and not even close to enough to vote out the D bags who are doing this to us...please read up on the voting history of California....deeply entrenched blue state...this fight was lost for good since 1986 and implying that we can do absolutely anything to stop it short of a full blown state revolution where we would be destroyed because we are severely outnumbered is lunacy. It runs the same vein of lunacy of people who think that if you don't vote blue in California your vote still matters....the numbers disprove that.

I can not fathom how a person would come to the conclusion that conforming to this registration somehow means we will be better represented. At what point in any of your time living here in California have any of you been left with the impression that our state government has any intention whatsoever of working with us when every single action they have taken regarding firearms has been a blantant move towards making firearm ownership so difficult that people will just give up.

Shouldn't the arbitrary reason for declaring the AR15 an AW and the mini 14 not an AW tell you everything you need to know about where this state is at with our rights? Shouldn't the arbitrary cash grab of our severely broken handgun roster be a clear indication to us about what the California government thinks of our rights? Shouldn't the last 30 years of constant anti gun bombardment of bills and laws make it super clear what the California state government intends to do with our gun rights?

Conforming to the registration is lawful, it is not constitutional nor does it bring us absolutely any representation.
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Freedom is in the process of setting up an FFL receiver network in California so we can still buy ammo from them. Hats off to Freedom for taking that initiative.
Where did you hear this? Is this public info? I'd like to know if there are any FFLs in my area participating or if I should contact them.
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Gregory Rolando? Is that you?

Also, does a "chip" on our shoulder get heavier or bigger?
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- Freedom Munitions has every right to give any promotions it wants. OP disrespected Freedom Munitions with that email because the promotion doesn't apply to CA residents. If that was important to them, they would have address it originally, but they didn't. Don't buy their products if their policies bother you.

- I've had a good experience with FMs ammo. Looking at over 10k rounds downrange now. Some others don't like their ammo - nothing wrong with that. Don't buy their products if you don't like their ammo.

- CA gun laws are this way because the majority CA population (not the minority, who are on this forum) doesn't care about guns. The legislators are following their constituents will, as unconstitutional as it may be. The CA courts have failed in their ability to uphold the constitution, for the same reason CA legislators have been elected.
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Where did you hear this? Is this public info? I'd like to know if there are any FFLs in my area participating or if I should contact them.
I believe it was in a marketing email from them sometime in the last two or three weeks. Unfortunately, I trashed the email and can't look there, and could not find anything on line. Their plan seemed solid and proactive, so I hope I did not misread it.
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Freedom Munitions is running a Labor Day promotion using a Bushmaster QRC as a premium for a 5,000 round purchase. As we all know, that gun cannot be shipped to CA. This is not there first snub of there CA customers. Here is my email to them:

Miranda,
I know you don't set policy at Freedom, but you know the person that does. Please share this with that person.

The state of California wants guns eliminated. They pass laws to make it miserable to own a gun for recreation. In turn, this makes life difficult for suppliers of gun related products -- like ammo. Some suppliers have flatly refused to supply California gun owners.

As a result, we feel abandoned or disrespected by the very people who should support our gun sport struggles in return for long term sales and profits. You could say it puts a "chip" on our shoulder.

When you run a promotion that excludes every high volume ammo purchaser in California, that chip gets very heavy. It is bad business in my opinion -- and bad gun support.
I just ordered a 1000 rounds today, business as usual imo...............i'll keep buying from them despite your concerns...............
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Freedom Munitions is running a Labor Day promotion using a Bushmaster QRC as a premium for a 5,000 round purchase. As we all know, that gun cannot be shipped to CA. This is not there first snub of there CA customers. Here is my email to them:

Miranda,
I know you don't set policy at Freedom, but you know the person that does. Please share this with that person.

The state of California wants guns eliminated. They pass laws to make it miserable to own a gun for recreation. In turn, this makes life difficult for suppliers of gun related products -- like ammo. Some suppliers have flatly refused to supply California gun owners.

As a result, we feel abandoned or disrespected by the very people who should support our gun sport struggles in return for long term sales and profits. You could say it puts a "chip" on our shoulder.

When you run a promotion that excludes every high volume ammo purchaser in California, that chip gets very heavy. It is bad business in my opinion -- and bad gun support.
jesus christ im sick of all these whiners about what companies wont ship you this or that. Its business, get over it. I bet OP is the guy who filed a lawsuit because his theatre was having a female only showing of wonder woman.
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Freedom Munitions is running a Labor Day promotion using a Bushmaster QRC as a premium for a 5,000 round purchase. As we all know, that gun cannot be shipped to CA. This is not there first snub of there CA customers. Here is my email to them:

Miranda,
I know you don't set policy at Freedom, but you know the person that does. Please share this with that person.

The state of California wants guns eliminated. They pass laws to make it miserable to own a gun for recreation. In turn, this makes life difficult for suppliers of gun related products -- like ammo. Some suppliers have flatly refused to supply California gun owners.

As a result, we feel abandoned or disrespected by the very people who should support our gun sport struggles in return for long term sales and profits. You could say it puts a "chip" on our shoulder.

When you run a promotion that excludes every high volume ammo purchaser in California, that chip gets very heavy. It is bad business in my opinion -- and bad gun support.

Wow really? You said that to them? Dude...

While you are at it, write a letter to God telling him that he is also doing a terrible job down here protecting his chosen ones. When FM responds and God ignores you, what are you gonna say then? I do not think you THANK it through... (taking a jab at the SWANG guy...)

They are a business and they have the right to run whatever they want to run. Why should they change their rules to ONLY allow something cheap that is allowed EVERYWHERE? When EVERYONE gets an award, it is not an award anymore. That is the only reason why I prefer to buy off roster SSE type of handguns. JUST to give my finger to this state.

Leave these guys alone and go pick a fight with someone who needs to have it picked with them, like CTD...

jfc man...

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If were such idiots and live in such a crap hole state why are you trolling the site?
I have lived in California all my life. Every time I have voted Republican. My voice has fell to def ears every time I have complained to my un-voted elected reps. in my district. The Dems. have taken over. I do not have any money, so what I say means nothing. Some how some way we need to vote the Dems. out of office, and the only way we can is to stop supporting any of them. I guess we need to buy an election just like they do. I have nothing to Register or give up. Unhappy Californian.
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