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Old 03-12-2017, 4:46 PM
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Default Need advice... want to start prepping 223 brass

So I want to get a single stage press with a 223 resizing and depriming die and an ekectric trimmer to prep my own 223 brass.

What press, die and trimmer should I get? Money is no object.

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Are you shooting past 500 yards? Loading match ammo?


In general, the Dillion is a great set up....


If you really want a slow single stage press, any press will work....
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Are you going to load for 223 bolt gun or semi auto ?
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For a single stage- this will do everything except for 50....

http://www.sinclairintl.com/reloadin...s_1=In%2bStock
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"it depends"

Like many others, I started with an RCBS Rockchucker single stage and processed in batches. It's slow going but great to learn the fundamentals. Once I got the hang of it, I bought a Dillon XL650. It significantly improves throughput but you'd better know what you're doing. I probably spilled 50gr of powder between setting up the powder measure and forgetting to seat a primer because I lost concentration.

Since I load a lot of different calibers, the Rockchucker will still be used. It's cheaper to buy standard dies and a shell holder vs the conversion kit etc. for the Dillon.

I also use another single stage as a dedicated decapper. Once in a while the Dillon won't fully remove a primer or I have a low volume of brass to process.
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If you want a single stage press, get a Rockchucker or the Lee O Frame. I personally chose the Lee because it has better spent primer handling. Some feel the RCBS has better tolerances, but I'm not convinced the affects the final product. I've loaded some great stuff on the both.

As for the trimmer, I'd use something like the Possom Hollow with Power adapter, Worlds Finest Trimmer or the Lee trimmer with the little pilot. All are affordable options and will do a fine job. Don't forget a chamfer and deburring tool

To be a bit easier you could get a Giraud trimmer, runs about $500 and does the trim, chamfer, debur all in one step.

If money is truly no object, you'll get a Dillon 1050 and their RT1200 trimmer. Size, deprime, swage and trim all at once. This setup will run you north of $3000.

But your best bet if you don't care about money, is just to buy factory ammo

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So I want to get a single stage press with a 223 resizing and depriming die and an ekectric trimmer to prep my own 223 brass.

What press, die and trimmer should I get? Money is no object.

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Well if Money is no object why do you ask? Just get a Dillon Super 1050 XL Jedi with a MK-XIX setup and leave all your worries behind. Be sure to click that "AS IT SHOULD BE" button for an additional $2500 of product dumped into your shopping cart... IIRC, that super XL 1050 GTR has a brass trimmer on it too, or it has a spot made for one or it can. But why do brass prep on a single stage when you can do it just as well on the world's bestest and most expensive-est home grade consumer reloading machine... I do not even know if a CAMDEX will trim brass, but that Dillon sure will...

Then compliment it with a Redding BIG BOSS or FORESTER CO-AX and all Redding match dies...

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Single stage press and money is no object...Forster Coax and Forster dies.
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I got started with a RCBS starter kit. Still have it. RCBS bake good dies. Forster are even better. Hornady dies aren't bad either.
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I believe you need to answer the questions above in order to get the best recommendation .

If you are only wanting to size cases for future use and not know type of shooting or what firearm you will be using . The only thing I can recommend is pretty much any single stage will work . I'd then say all cases need to be sized to the length of a GO-gage from head to datum point . This should allow the cases to chamber in any firearm you may have in the future .
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If money is no object, why reload??? Defeats the purpose. If I can afford to buy the best ammo for my gun, I wouldn't reload. Let someone else do it for me.
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Are you shooting past 500 yards? Loading match ammo?


In general, the Dillion is a great set up....


If you really want a slow single stage press, any press will work....
dude says he wants a single stage and the first thing you come up with is a Dillon
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here is my working document to start my first reload of 223. for your reference. fair warning: it costs more than I original thought, still worth it. :-)

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I started with an RCBS turret press. Still all I use.
Unless you really want to reload in large amounts, it's all you need.
I just did a about 600 rnds of .357 in a few hours. Fast enough for me.
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you will often find brass with primer crimps if money was no object i would get the dillon super swage

but me being a cheapskate i use the https://www.midwayusa.com/product/50...mer-tool-small
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I prefer to get mine commercially prepped. There is a Calguner in Long Beach I use. For the time it saves $45.00 per K is a god send.
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Single stage press and money is no object...Forster Coax and Forster dies.
This right here. Also do not forget to swage or reamer to get rid of the military crimp.
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I prefer to get mine commercially prepped. There is a Calguner in Long Beach I use. For the time it saves $45.00 per K is a god send.
Yep, Allied Brass. They recently did 2,400 pieces of 223 for me.
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Yep, Allied Brass. They recently did 2,400 pieces of 223 for me.
well hell yea if money was no object then yea have someone else prep your brass and get a dillon 550 and assemble that stuff no fuss no muss prime, charge, seat ,blam
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I really like this trimming machine, makes it super fast.

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When money was no object for me I always bought cartridges, not just the brass.

Better at least buy a headspace gauge.
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I process brass with a Dillon Super 1050 and Mark 7 Autodrive. Way overkill for the avg person. But since I do it as a side business, it is a necessity.

If you need a single stage, I would get a Forster Co-Ax. Probably one of the best single stages on the market.

I personally really like the Redding T-7 turret though. If I didn't already have a Hornady single stage, I would buy one of these. I originally bought the Hornady years ago because of the bushing system. It just makes it very easy to change dies.
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Forget you ever read about Dillon as this thread is about single stage presses.
The only thing to note on the single stage presses is the cheaper presses don't have alot of leverage.
The RCBS Partner press works great as a seating press but if you want to size 338 Lapua brass by the buckets it wouldn't be a good choice.
Likewise for loading 223 you don't need a 80 pound $1000 Corbin Mega-Mite.
Get a $100-$250 single stage press and a set of Redding dies or RCBS dies and it will last you several lifetimes.
And to all those saying buy ammo maybe he wants his gun to shoot accurately?
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It's a mater of quantity vs quality, I reloaded with an RCBS Rock chucker for over 30 years and I throw a lot of lead down range that being said it would take me quite a bit of time to replenish my ammo stores after a weekend of shooting.
about two years ago I purchased a Dillon 650, my shooting pard did the same and we have never looked back.
The cost to set up for 4 calibers (2 rifle and 2 pistol) and a Dillon trimer set up for .223 and .308 was about $2400 bucks and it puts out a lot of ammo.
Don't get me wrong the Dillon puts out quality ammo but the lengths that some shooters go through to get the accuracy they want, for me accuracy is being able to put my rounds into the black at 100 to 200 yds using a semi auto.
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Seriously consider the Redding Big Boss or Big Boss II the Primer catch system is the best hands down if you do not want to end up spilling spent primers on the floor.
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