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Old 12-10-2009, 4:12 PM
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Are pistol compensator legal in California? I want to put a wilson combat compensator on my 1911 and want to know if it is legal.
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According the http://www.calguns.net/caawid/hgflowchart.pdf no. They are not a listed as an evil feature.

NO- meaning not illegal by itself.

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comps are fine. Threaded barrels for pistols are not legal.
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pistol compensators are not evil features. legal to use.
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comps are fine. Threaded barrels for pistols are not legal.
What he said. Pistol compensators are legal.Threaded barrels are not. So if the compensator is threaded then it is no go.
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I have also heard that the compensator has to be permanently attached. Most are but some are not. Any truth to this? Also someone said barrels not threaded! Is this the compensator that can't be threaded? Please clarify and if this is so if it is permanently attached can it then be threaded?
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It is the threaded barrel which is the problem, it amazes me when I see people running comps on threaded barrels and think they are legal.
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So, a clamp on comp would be ok, yes?
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I have also heard that the compensator has to be permanently attached. Most are but some are not. Any truth to this? Also someone said barrels not threaded! Is this the compensator that can't be threaded? Please clarify and if this is so if it is permanently attached can it then be threaded?
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(A) A threaded barrel, capable of accepting a flash suppressor, forward handgrip, or silencer
If you can figure out how to secure a removable muzzle device to a non-threaded barrel, be my guest

WRT the 2nd half of your question... I'm pretty sure you would get popped if you had the end of a compensator threaded, as once permanently attached, the compensator would become part of the barrel.
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If the compensator is installed by threading the barrel it must be silver soldered and a blind pin installed to make the installation permanent. Just loctite won't be legal.
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It is the threaded barrel which is the problem, it amazes me when I see people running comps on threaded barrels and think they are legal.
Threaded barrel is only prohibited on a pistol with a detachable magazine.
The AK and AR pistols that you see have mag locking devices so a tool is needed to remove the mag... it's not a "detachable magazine", so none of the restrictions in 12276.1(a)(4)(A-D) apply.
Fixed mag puts it under the restriction of 12276.1(a)(5), which only requires that it not have a capacity greater than 10 rounds.

The only reason that a permanently installed muzzle device would be needed on an AR or AK would be if it were needed to meet the minimum barrel length of 6" or minimum OAL of 10.5" to meet the single shot roster exemption.
AR and AK pistols have a 10rd mag outside of the pistol grip, so they must be "fixed-mag".
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I have also heard that the compensator has to be permanently attached. Most are but some are not. Any truth to this? Also someone said barrels not threaded! Is this the compensator that can't be threaded? Please clarify and if this is so if it is permanently attached can it then be threaded?
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The commend about permanent compensator is either want to avoid the threaded barrel or a criticism about its functionality.

And yes there are some attachable compensator like this one

for Tokarev. Just replace the barrel bushing, no need to temper with barrel.
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Two types of comps. Bushing comps and barrel comps. Neither is illegal. Threaded barrels are not illegal to own, but to use. A thread on comp is legal if permanently attached through solder or welding, etc. Comp must be attached before barrel goes in pistol. It's just like the bullet button idea. Button goes in before assembly to comply. You can no longer buy threaded barrels in CA, but if you had them, you're fine. I've got a Springfield Defender in .40S&W with the comp that I've had for years. Not illegal.
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