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Old 11-30-2009, 4:32 PM
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Default .45 ACP 230 grain FMJ Recipe question.

Hello, I was planning on making several loads of .45 ACP 230 grain FMJ reloads. I was wanting to make mostly ball rounds but I also want to make a few JHP rounds as well. I plan on using some Wolf Large Pistol Primers and a mixed batch of range brass. Is there a powder out there that is considered the "Best" for this type of load? I plan on making a few -P, regular loads, and some +P. Approximately how many reloads can I make from 8 pounds of powder?
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You'll get a lot of different opinoins on this one.

I prefer WW 231. Around 5 to 5.5 grs with a 230 gr FMJ will give you around 750-830 fps. Burns clean too.

A pound of powder is 7000 grs, so just do the math to find how how many loads you'd get from 8 pounds.
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My favorite for 230g. ball is 5.9 grains of Unique, mixed brass and a Winchester primer. It gives me 860fps in a 5" 1911. It knocks steel smartly and is not too smokey. Not the most clean but very accurate and lots of fun.
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What they said. I usually load 2-300 at a time with W-231 @ 5.3g
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I use 4.4 gr of Bullseye for 230gr FMJ, velocity measured average 769 fps from a 5" 1911. Bullseye is the fastest burning powder and extremely clean. With 8 lbs you can make 12727 rounds.
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I prefer Bullseye or Titegroup for 45ACP. Unique is fine, but I find Titegroup and Bullseye a bit easier to work with...Meters better etc...
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you will need some +p cases if you want to load +p ammo.
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4.0g Ramshot Competition, Wolf Primer with a 230g FMJ set 1.250OAL bullet is mild 750fps or so Very economical target load.

7.0g Power Pistol with a 230g FMJ set 1.250 OAL is 850 FPS or so - Standard ball type load

9.5g Power Pistol with a 185g Speer Gold Dot set 1.200 OAL will slay Zombies at >1050fps +P 'ish

All from a basically stock Springfield Loaded .45ACP
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I use 6.0 grains of Unique with no problem in both a 1911 Kimber and HK USP. I have gone up to max charge of 6.5 grains of Unique with no problem. I had read somewhere on 1911forum.com the 6.5 grains of Unique was used duplicate Military ball ammo. Did a quick search and found this.

A True Hardball Load for .45 Service Pistol

The following represents recipies to duplicate a true .45 caliber hardball load.

The NRA has published some load info that should fill your needs.

American Rifleman June 1993, pgs. 44-45
Loads to simulate Hardball recoil and energy 850 +/- 30 FPS vel

200-220 WC lead (such as Lyman 452460) OAL 1.16"
4.6-5.0 gr BE, Red or Green Dot, 700X
6.0-6.5 gr Unique
5.5-6.0 gr WW231
The above loads can also be used with a 230 gr FMJ bullet to get 850 FPS
+/- 30 with overall length of 1.25"


American Rifleman January 1987, pg. 66
Loads to Duplicate Military Ball Ammo

230 gr FMJ
4.6 gr BE
5.6 gr WW231
6.5 gr Unique

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Thanks everyone for the information. I was also wondering what is the difference, other than cosmetic, between the brass cases and the nickel plated cases. Are +P cartridges marked differently?
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Thanks everyone for the information. I was also wondering what is the difference, other than cosmetic, between the brass cases and the nickel plated cases. Are +P cartridges marked differently?
Yeah, they have a +P on them.

I'm a little dubious about any actual difference in case construction. I'll check when I get home. I have some Starline standard and +P cases at home I'll weigh.
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From what I have read and been told in several discussions, +P cases are just marked. There is no difference in brass construction from regular cases.
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Yeah, they have a +P on them.

I'm a little dubious about any actual difference in case construction. I'll check when I get home. I have some Starline standard and +P cases at home I'll weigh.
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Starline .45ACP Cases, average weight of 5 cases w/ spent primer:

Standard 81g

+P 91g

So they do have different construction. Learn something new every day!
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