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Old 11-23-2009, 10:33 AM
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Default CGF: McDonald Amicus - Fairman & Berger Are Wrong on the 14th

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Moments ago, The Calguns Foundation filed and Amicus Brief in support of Otis McDonald et al. in McDonald v. Chicago. Our brief argues that the two most prominent anti-incorporationist scholars of the late 20th century were wildly incorrect about the meaning of the Privileges or Immunities clause in Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment and that their positions have been thoroughly discredited by superior modern legal scholarship and thus the Second Amendment is clearly incorporated by Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment.

Counsel to CGF on this Amicus was Erik Jaffe, a very well respected Supreme Court Appellate counsel and a former Clerk for Justice Thomas. For an example of his work, here is his Amicus from Heller filed on behalf of The Institute for Justice.

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Old 11-23-2009, 10:47 AM
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And there we have it.
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While CGF has primarily been focused on local/state issues, this is sufficiently relevant to CA that we needed to step up to the bar and fill in a hole. This is a very important piece of scholarship, from a very well-regarded attorney. that helps round out our side's teachings on incorporation.

I'll also note that this type of work comes from outside the usual
"gun world" attorneys or academics - and, as such, is regular appellate law work product billed at somewhat typical legal rates.

Obviously, this has been a large outlay for us, and kicking up a few bucks can help us.

We do appreciate Mark LaRue's huge donation last week - it has been a BIG help, but we'd still like to recover our reservoir levels.
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Donation sent. More to follow as soon as I do my job billings and collect my dough.

Give 'em hell boys. Those of us who once swore an oath to protect and defend the Constitution don't take kindly to seeing our rights and the rights of our fellow citizens crapped on by pinkos.
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While CGF has primarily been focused on local/state issues, this is sufficiently relevant to CA that we needed to step up to the bar and fill in a hole.
Indeed. The CGF program isn't enabled until we have Incorporation--thus it seems this is not merely "sufficiently relevant" but actually at the core of CGF's mission.

We have to get all the armored divisions through the same gap before they can separate and each drive for their own objectives.

I've sure been using WWII analogies a lot recently.

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That's a great read.

Thanks CGF.
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I've sure been using WWII analogies a lot recently.

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Have you been watching WWII in HD on History Channel recently?


For those who have been wondering what CGF was doing while Nordyke/Sykes/Pena are 'on hold', resting hasn't even been on the table!
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Ten percent of everyone's gun-related expenditures should be going to CGF or other worthy gun-rights organizations. Judging from the price of some folks' collections, we'd be able to conceal full auto SBRs in a matter of months.
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A side note, with the Paypal link, it auto fills the form to go straight to CG, with Gunpal, you need to enter the address. What is the address, and could it at least be added posts requesting donations?
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ETA" this link at the bottom of the OP of this thread DOES auto fill the form, but the "DONATE NOW" button does not.

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A side note, with the Paypal link, it auto fills the form to go straight to CG, with Gunpal, you need to enter the address. What is the address, and could it at least be added posts requesting donations?
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ETA" this link at the bottom of the OP of this thread DOES auto fill the form, but the "DONATE NOW" button does not.

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Me too.. What is e-mail address?

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A side note, with the Paypal link, it auto fills the form to go straight to CG, with Gunpal, you need to enter the address. What is the address, and could it at least be added posts requesting donations?
Doh! Bitten by URL encapsulation in copy and paste. The problem has been rectified and the link above now works for Gunpal.

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For those who have been wondering what CGF was doing while Nordyke/Sykes/Pena are 'on hold', resting hasn't even been on the table!
Out of my head I was just thinking that right before I saw your post.
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These briefs are a good refute not only to anti-gunners, but also some hard core libertarians(pro-RKBA) who don't believe incorporation was ever supposed to take place. They always would say John Bingham's statements are confused and contradictory. The public statements made in Congress by Bingham, Jacob Howard and others, as well as pro-slavery Democrats, seemed that they knew the RKBA would be extended to freed slaves.
If Slaughterhouse was the true extent of the P or I clause, I don't see the southern states making as much of a stink of it as they did.
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Donation sent...small but hopefully I can do more in the future.
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That would be hard core conservatives.
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Guys, if you use an online bill pay service through your online banking I would suggest doing the following. Set up the CGF as a payee and set it to automatically pay them once a month. I did this a couple months ago and haven't had to think about it since. I'm not able to donate a lot but if 1000 of us set it up to donate as little as $10 a month that would get the CGF 10 grand a month. Consistent donations add up.
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