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Old 11-18-2009, 4:01 PM
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Default American Merchanmen, USS Marsk Alabama, using SMALL ARMS repelles Pirates! Huzzah!

American ships buck trend, sail armed
November 18, 6:23 PMDC Gun Rights ExaminerMike Stollenwerk

Hard to port ye mateys! It be an American ship ahead!Only hours ago Somali pirates attacked the USS Marsk Alabama in International waters. But unlike last April, when the ship was taken captive, this time the US flagged ship "responded with small-arms fire, long-range acoustical devices painful to the human ear and evasive maneuvers to thwart the attack."

The US Navy's 5th Fleet nearly immediately issued a statement commending the crew of the Marsk Alabama for "following maritime industry's best-practices . . . to prevent being successfully attacked by pirates." Vice Admiral Bill Gortney, commander, U.S. Naval Forces Central Command added that

"this is a great example of how merchant mariners can take pro-active action to prevent being attacked and why we recommend that ships follow industry best practices if they're in high-risk areas."

But the US Navy position is at odds with "the rest of the international community" claims Roger Middleton from the London-based think tank Chatham House. Middleton said that "I would think it's a step backward if we start privatizing security of the shipping trade."

Middleton's view that securing personal safety is the province of the state is mirrored in some countries such as Great Britain where a 2004 Cato Institute Policy Report observed that British subjects have been

"weaned from their fundamental right to protect themselves through a series of policies implemented over some 80 years. Those include the strictest gun regulations of any democracy, legislation that makes it illegal for individuals to carry any article that could be used for personal protection, and restrictive limits on the use of force in self-defense."

By contrast, in most states of the United States, adults are free to own firearms without registration and can and do openly carry loaded handguns in public places for self-defense purposes and need no license to do so. Eric Pratt, spokesman for Gun Owners of America, a gun rights group based in Fairfax County, VA praised the USS Maersk Alabama's armed response as "wonderful news" and that "pirates better take notice."

Mr. Chatham's pacifistic prescription for ships on the high seas is not necessarily shared even in Europe. When Somali pirates attacked the Italian cruise ship Melody and it's 1,500 passengers with automatic weapons earlier this year, the pirates broke off their attack when they found out that "in the darkness, the crew would fire back. . . . 'It felt like we were in war,' the ship's Italian Commander, Ciro Pinto, told Italian state radio."

The USS Maersk Alabama's recent incorporation of ordinary small arms fire with evasive maneuvers and other non-lethal defenses is exactly the combined armed tactics suggested in this column some months ago in an item entitled Let's just give the pirates our ships - bullets first, ARRGH! Now that the unorganized militia is doing its part to protect American ships at sea, it's time for the US Congress to consider issuing letters of Marque and Reprisal to willing American vessel owners to destroy or capture pirates and their vessels anywhere they be found in International waters as I previously suggested here.
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Old 11-18-2009, 4:15 PM
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This guy Middleton is an idiot and I must say a whining sheep. Well he is based in England so what do I expect......
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The English have all-but lost their rights and so their freedoms. The only thing that will wake them up, I fear, is some dictator opening gulags complete with ovens.

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Old 11-18-2009, 4:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Python2 View Post
This guy Middleton is an idiot and I must say a whining sheep. Well he is based in England so what do I expect......
+1 I hope he chokes on his toad in the hole.
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