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Old 11-16-2009, 2:54 PM
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We should go thank this a**hole in person. After all, he made it harder for gangbangers to buy ammo!!!
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I'm working on a house about a half mile from there.

Maybe I'll put on one of my NRA t-shirts and stop by for a little grip and grin, and Q & A.
How 'bout I video it and put it on YouTube.

Anyone want to contribute a question or two?
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as him whats to stop the gangbangers from stocking up on ammo now before the restriction takes place by 2011?

or by getting neighbors/sisters/wives/girlfriends/3rd cousin from his uncle side/etc from buying ammo after the restrictions are put in place on 2011?

ask how they plan to use the sale of handgun ammo records to find those who shot the bullets if the bullets are not individually ID'ed and linked to the buyer?

ask how this ab962 will stop the large blackmarket that exist for guns in california already, where most gangbangers get their ammo from anyways?
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Has anyone here actually ever seen someone who looks like a gangbanger buying ammo in public? Do they reload or something?
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Wouldn't Open Carry be OK? Really. We won't have any of those evil bullits' he gets to regulate...maybe...
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Has anyone here actually ever seen someone who looks like a gangbanger buying ammo in public? Do they reload or something?

I think one of DeLeon's relatives is a large black market distributor of ammuniton. AB962 was just his way of cutting down on the competition. Now all felons will have to buy from the DeLeon family.

Head of the family is Don DeLeon.
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I'm working on a house about a half mile from there.

Maybe I'll put on one of my NRA t-shirts and stop by for a little grip and grin, and Q & A.
How 'bout I video it and put it on YouTube.

Anyone want to contribute a question or two?
Keeping it civil (which I couldn't do if I went myself), ask if he has any plans to quantify the success of AB 962 for his re-election campaign. Does he have any expectation that this law will make any difference and, if so, how will he measure such success?
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Keeping it civil (which I couldn't do if I went myself), ask if he has any plans to quantify the success of AB 962 for his re-election campaign. Does he have any expectation that this law will make any difference and, if so, how will he measure such success?

That's a good one. I'm actually going to try to make it over there. I can keep it civil, if I thought it would do us gunnies any good to be a jackass, I would love to, but I wouldn't give him the satisfaction of calling me a gun nut an ignoring me.

Of course, it's a futile effort, gun control being so popular in this state. Who knows though, there might be another gunny or two showing up to ask WTF.

That library where he'll be is not in the safest of areas. Alvarado and Sunset.

I'm sure Little Kevin will have armed bodyguards, but I'll have to go gunless, me being just an ordinary citizen and all. My life isn't worth as much.
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I'll give someone $5 to UOC there.

Add another $50K for defending the inevitable charges that would result and I'll do it.

What I'd like to do is set up a booth out front and sell ammunition.

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What is wrong with all of you?

You complain about people like Deleon always doing what they can to take away your gun rights, and at the same time talk about carrying guns to a sit-down event with him?

Are you honestly forgetting to put a smiley on there or use the sarcasm tags? Or are you people just that stupid?
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ask how they plan to use the sale of handgun ammo records to find those who shot the bullets if the bullets are not individually ID'ed and linked to the buyer?
You asking questions or giving him suggestions?
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Has anyone here actually ever seen someone who looks like a gangbanger buying ammo in public? Do they reload or something?
Gang bangers don't really need that much ammo. It's not like they go to the range and work on their aim. One trip to WalMart (when the limit was 6 boxes) should be enough to last them at least a year.
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You complain about people like Deleon always doing what they can to take away your gun rights, and at the same time talk about carrying guns to a sit-down event with him?

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I was going to reply, but this made me laugh too hard.
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That's what I was thinking. They don't go to ranges and I think they rarely actually fire their weapons... one box should last them for quite a while.

I thought De Leon said they were ordering big old spam cans of 7.62x54R from Cheaper Than Dirt??? I'm so confused.

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What is wrong with all of you?

You complain about people like Deleon always doing what they can to take away your gun rights, and at the same time talk about carrying guns to a sit-down event with him?

Are you honestly forgetting to put a smiley on there or use the sarcasm tags? Or are you people just that stupid?

Would a smiley make any real difference? And if there isn't a school within 1000', would it be against the law to UOC just because Little Kevin is there?

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That's what I was thinking. They don't go to ranges and I think they rarely actually fire their weapons... one box should last them for quite a while.

I thought De Leon said they were ordering big old spam cans of 7.62x54R from Cheaper Than Dirt??? I'm so confused.
No no no. Why would they need those big ol' spam cans? I mean, they're only allowed to shoot 10 rounds at a time. I mean, what'er they going to do? Use a second mag or ignore that they're only allowed to shoot 10 rounds at a time???
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Gang bangers don't really need that much ammo. It's not like they go to the range and work on their aim. One trip to WalMart (when the limit was 6 boxes) should be enough to last them at least a year.
No kidding, I've seen em at the local "place in the desert".. 5 of em get out a lowered Civic, they have one gun & one box of 25 rounds between em. They shoot off all the rounds & can't hit anything smaller that a wooden pallet at 25ft, then leave.

The phrase "couldn't hit a cow in the butt with a snow shovel" seems to apply....

As an aquaintance of mine said earlier today: "You could stand 50ft away with them shooting bullets all around you & then take them out with a bow & arrow"
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No no no. Why would they need those big ol' spam cans? I mean, they're only allowed to shoot 10 rounds at a time. I mean, what'er they going to do? Use a second mag or ignore that they're only allowed to shoot 10 rounds at a time???
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