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Old 11-13-2009, 12:33 PM
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Default What causes a gun to explode like this?

Is it just that something had to be blocking the barrel?




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Old 11-13-2009, 12:44 PM
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Barrel obstruction for sure. Scarey stuff. I bet the M16 fired an uncharged round prior to the jam. The guy messed with it enough to get the next round to chamber.
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Old 11-13-2009, 12:55 PM
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Those guys looked like they got real lucky (although couldn't quite tell on the shotgun).

What I want to know is where that range is at in the bottom one. That's a nice looking firing line.

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Old 11-13-2009, 1:15 PM
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1st video could be an obstruction in the barrel or a over charged round, since many hunters do reload...hard to say.

2nd video hard to say..I'm GUESSING wrong size round for the rifle.

3rd video,, the rifle was allowing several attempts to tell the shooter something was wrong but he kept trying to cycle a round..my first though would be to split the upper and lower and take a peek down the barrel & inspect the bolt. If the shooter was lucky, he may only need to replace the upper....IF

Most important I hope everyone was ok ( 2nd video )
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Old 11-13-2009, 1:50 PM
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3rd video is clearly an overcharged reload ammo. Around 1:00 they talk about who was reloading.

1st video could be anything, most likely barrel obstruction. I do have my skepticism about that video as the video guy didn't have problem taping the rifle instead of worrying about his friend. But also notice that there seems to be rain.
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Old 11-13-2009, 2:58 PM
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I think the AR 15 ammo (if in fact it was reloaded) probably was not re sized properly. The case being too large to chamber without using the fwd assist to mash it in far enough to get the bolt into battery. FYI- if you ever find yourself needing to use the fwd assist to get the ammo to chamber, stop and analyze the situation 'cause something is not in spec. and injury/damage is just around the corner!
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Old 11-13-2009, 3:40 PM
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The first one is like a cartoon! Crazy!
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The shotgun video looks like the barrel separated from the receiver. If the barrel wasn’t seated all the way in or the barrel nut was off I bet it would break apart the way it did.
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Duct Tape?
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i had a 12 guage do to me what happend in the first video.its scary stuff and sucks royaly
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Lots of things can cause a gun to blow

1.) Not performing routine maintenance or replacement on key parts. Always get a new AR bolt with each barrel OR 10K rounds.

2.) Too much rifle powder, or the loading of pistol powder into a rifle cartridge by accident.

3.) Barrel obstructions

4.) Not checking casings (on both reloads and new ammo) for defects. ALWAYS take 3 seconds to inspect every round you buy. Could you you lots of trouble!!!!!!!
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Old 11-13-2009, 5:32 PM
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Thanks for the input everyone

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The first one is like a cartoon! Crazy!
I know Split the barrel in two



The 2nd video looks like it hurt
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=( can't see the vids.
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The shotgun video looks like the barrel separated from the receiver. If the barrel wasn’t seated all the way in or the barrel nut was off I bet it would break apart the way it did.
If you stop motion the video, there it is discharging out of the top of the receiver. Would it do that if the barrel wasn't properly seated?
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First one I'm betting a plug of mud at the muzzle. Not enough information for the others.
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First one looked like a classic barrel obstruction. Probably went muzzle-down in the turf. Happens.

Second one I'm going to guess old shotgun, maybe with damascus barrels, using modern ammo. Easy way to get a kaboom.

Third is noobs + reloading equipment. Either wound up with a bullet in the barrel somehow before loading and firing another round or had an overcharged round.
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the first one was dirt in the barrel causing an obstruction.
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Old 11-13-2009, 10:46 PM
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What does having an "overcharged round" mean?
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Means too much powder, causing too much pressure
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The third video demonstrates the results of improper basic instruction in firearms use.

I was taught early on that if you encounter a cartridge that won't readily chamber in your firearm, set it aside for later examination.

If the firearm you're shooting suddenly will not chamber any rounds, cease and desist and safely unload the weapon and make a full inspection before continuing the firing session.
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AR vid was a squib, leaving a bullet in the throat. He fires the magazine, then you hear a click. He pulls mag, and clears a casing from the chamber.

Next mag refuses to chamber, so does the recharge, and again recharges. Bullet is finally driven into the rifling enough (or the new bullet to be driven into the case)to allow a round to chamber........boom.
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Scarry *hit. I was squinting, waiting for the trigger pull on the first video. I hate watching this type of thing. Could have ended very bad. -g
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Man, that kid in video #2 got ****** up. Hope he didn't loose his eyes. That is why you wear eye protection.
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I got some .223 reloads from a co-worker early in my AR days.and video #3 was the result.Only without the major Failure to check into the malfunction.I was at 10% whining about my crappy Cproducts 10/30 mag and Dean gave me one of His Bushmaster 10 rounders and bammo! blew the bottom off of a very nice magazine.
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The first on is a classic obstruction.
The second was failure to know and understand the weapon. He pulled the hammer back and squeezed the trigger twice and it failed to fire. At the first point it was time for a full inspection - heck I doubt if there was a proper inspection before he even tried to fire the shotgun. Additionally, the chatter seemed like they or he may have been up to no good trying some hair brain stunt. I hope he didn't get maimed.
The third is reload ammo and improper inspection upon a failure condition.

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And any injuries will not be covered under Obama-Care. "You were injured while using a firearm? We're sorry your health insurance now null and void."
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And any injuries will not be covered under Obama-Care. "You were injured while using a firearm? We're sorry your health insurance now null and void."
This is just trolling.
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