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Old 11-11-2009, 9:28 PM
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Default Best pistol in .40 S&W

Which pistol in your opinion is the best in .40 S&W? Important factors are general reliability, chamber reliability with .40's pressure, ergo, weight.
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I don't know if there is a "best", but I'm a big fan of the Sig 229. Had one since the early '90s and love love love it! Other than that, I have a bunch of Glock .40s, though many will say they are not the "best" because they do not fully support the case and, on occasion, go kaboom.
I'm sure the 1911 crowd will call out any 1911 chambered in .40 as the "best" cuz it's a 1911.

Which one do you like? Which one fits your hand best? Which one do you shoot the best? The answer to those questions will be helpful in finding the best for you.
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Old 11-11-2009, 9:57 PM
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S&W 4006

Fits my hand perfectly especially with a chunky Hogue grip. Eats cheap reloads or expensive war shots for breakfast, lunch and dinner without the slightest bit of indigestion. Funny double/single action trigger makes other people mad but makes me look good. Stainless steel makes for toughness in rotten situations. Weighs enough to anchor a small boat or add that extra wallop to your pistol whip.
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I'm a big fan of the Sig 229.
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Love the P229 - also love the P226 in .40 - very smooth and reliable.
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Wow... Another Chevy vs Ford debate...

Factors in most guns:
1) Supported Chamber vs partially supported Chamber vs fully supported chamber (if you intend to reload or shoot reloads)
2) Cost
3) What you like
4) What fits your shooting needs.

I anticipate banter about Sigs, 1911's, S&W, Ruger, Glock and H&K. Lets see how it goes.

At teh end of the day you need to shoot them prior to buying to get what you really want. Its like buying a car without test driving it first.

Good luck
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Steyr M40-A1.

I've got the slightly older M40 (no Pic rail) and it is hands down the best pistol I've ever owned!

Has a fully supported chamber (unlike the Glucks), easy trapezoidal sights (very fast 'on target' time), ease of maintenance, and ergonomically the most comfortable to hold and shoot of any other gun I've ever shot!

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Which pistol in your opinion is the best in .40 S&W? Important factors are general reliability, chamber reliability with .40's pressure, ergo, weight.

Steyr M40-A1.
Egro
Quick sighting.
Trigger
Follow up
Reliability
Ease of maintenance.
Support is top notch.
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I dunno if its "the best" or not...but I love my USP
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My vote: SIG Sauer P229
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I love my P226... but it likes .357SIG better for some reason.

I like my Smith & Wesson CS40 too.. good compact gun..
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Apart from my Beretta, the only .40 I've shot is my PX4 and I definitely liked my PX4 better.
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glock 22 or glock 35
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I'm bored, and I don't think I've participated in a thread like this for at LEAST 26 seconds!

Let's make it fun...

Best .40sw is...... Hi Point!!! Commonly available on gunbroker for $150. Buy three, or five! If your requirements are reliability and strength it will be perfect.
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i really like my G22 on the .40.
Its accurate, and it fits my hand well
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I have 3 guns in .40 and have shot a few others that I didn't own. I'd say the Sig P229 is the best overall .40 I have seen.

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Old 11-12-2009, 5:03 AM
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My Glock 23. Not Glock 23's in general, but the one i own. Hi point .40...lol thats a good one...lol
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+ 1 for p226
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Glock fo-ta/ys!!!!

27, 23, 22 and 35.
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My vote: SIG Sauer P229
+1 on the P229. Accurate & Dependable. Great weight and handles the recoil very well.
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My vote goes for the P226ST (all stainless model). Mine is chambered for 357SIG but I have the 40 S&W barrel for it as well and it really soaks up the recoil.
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The best is the one YOU shoot the best with ultimately, all other things considered equal. Nevermind everyone else; pistol selection is very subjective and unique to each person.
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No one beats HK in terms of marketing.

http://www.streetpro.com/usp/torture.html
http://www.remtek.com/arms/hk/civ/usp/usp.htm
"Tough Military Standards Used in USP Tests
The testing process of the USP, already extreme, exceeded strict NATO AC-225 Military Specification Standards and in many ways mirrors the regimen the HK Special Operations Pistol was subjected to by US Government testers. The barrel of the USP is cold-hammer forged from a high-grade chromium steel - the same type of steel used in cannon barrels. For increased velocity and longer barrel life, all USP barrels now have a polygonal profile. During testing, a bullet was deliberately lodged in a USP barrel. Another cartridge was then fired into the obstructing bullet. The second bullet cleared the barrel, resulting in a barely noticeable bulge. The pistol was then fired for accuracy and the resulting group measured less than 2 1/2 inches at 25 meters."


Their catalog used to have a picture of the slightly bulged barrel.
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Since it hasn't been said yet. XD-40.

Fully supported chamber, striker fired, Grip safety, and no funny Glock grip!
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Keep in mind that I own a Glock 22C, so I'm biased. With that in mind, I'll exclude Glock and say that if I had to pick the SECOND best .40 S&W handgun, the best alternative I've seen is the Baby Desert Eagle. Good weight, very smooth, extremely reliable...

They also make a Browning Hi-power in .40 but I've never shot one. I'm sure that would be smooth as well...
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:14 AM
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Get the Sig you won't be sorry! MMMMM like butter!
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Old 11-12-2009, 11:16 AM
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My favorite and best shooter was this S&W 4014 compact.
I suffered a hand injury that precluded my ability to use the decocker/safety easily, so I ended up switching over to a Sig P229..... I still miss the old S&W though..

If you get a chance, try them both!

BigJon's got a 4014 for sale and he'd probably let you shoot it too if you're in that area:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...93&postcount=1
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If I ever gete a .40, which I doubt I will. It'll be a Sig or a Glock.
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My favorite handguns in any caliber are...

Glock
HK USP
1911

...in that order.

I base my decision on the ease with which the trigger can be mastered.

A DA/SA that cannot be carried cocked and locked is too hard to master. So for me that rules out a HUGE amount of firearms, including all Sigs.

I assume you will have to draw from a holster and put a controlled pair center mass into a hostile in 1.5 seconds or less. That is very hard to do. Period. It is made even harder if you have to not only fight a safety but a hard, long double action trigger pull.

The advantage of a Glock is that there is no safety, and the trigger pull is less than half the weight of most DA trigger pulls. Add to that a very short reset (which rules out Springfield XPs and Sigs Glock like trigger which I forget what it is called) which makes your follow up shot a little easier, and you have a trigger that is very easy to master.

Handguns that can be carried cocked and locked like H&K USPs and 1911s allow you to only have to deal with the very light single action trigger pull. Which is much easier to master than any other, even the Glocks. However, you have to deal with a safety lever, which does take time to disengage. So it becomes a crap shoot as to which system is best.

We're talking about fractions of a second, and if you rush your trigger pull you're gonna miss your target. So if your life is on the line...you need the right handgun.

Now if it is only meant to put holes in a peice of paper...there are lots of great options out there.

Just my $0.02.

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My Glock 23. Not Glock 23's in general, but the one i own. Hi point .40...lol thats a good one...lol
Hey, for under 200 bucks, they're pretty decent. Good reviews too.
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Sig P226 or P229
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My vote is for the P226. Absolutely love mine
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When the .40 S&W caliber was initially introduced the last major (pistol) manufacturer to introduce a handgun was Sig Sauer.

The 229 was one of the few designs that was completely designed/ engineered to handle the higher pressure of the .40 caliber round. The other designs from companies such as Glock, Smith and Wesson, Ruger, Beretta, and the other major pistol suppliers were essentially re-designed/ repackaged 9mms enlarged/ modified to accommodate the larger round. This is why some brands of .40 and even .357 Sig chambered guns do not hold up to high round counts well.

It is a point of fact if you look at some of the larger LE organizations who are carrying these calibers there are always issues with the pistols chambered in those two calibers after the round counts begin to exceed several thousand rounds. Parts begin to wear and reliability issues arise.

From the standpoint of a combat pistol the .40 S&W has excellent characteristics in regards to energy delivered to the target and caliber size. However, the chambering will never substitute for the most important part of the self-defense/ combat equation. The most important factor in the use of a sidearm for self-defense IS proper shot placement.

In conclusion, I believe that one of the best designs produced for the .40 SW is the Sig 229. And although I have owned and shot the .40 caliber extensively it is not my preference. If one were not enamored with the decocker/ double action design of the Sig, then I would look to either the HK or Glock series of pistols for this particular caliber. With a stronger preference to the HK because of the design and high quality of materials.

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For plastic,

H&K or SIG.

My current, reliable unto death, plastic handgun is the H&K USP Compact45. It fits my hand nicely, is easily concealed, and I have always been able to pick it up and shoot accurately with it, since day one.

I had a SIG Pro in .40 cal a few years ago, but sold it to a friend for $350.00. I do not like anything under a .45 for a defensive load. (Just my opinion folks, so lets not start a debate here). But now that I am getting started in USPSA shooting...the .40 cal seems to be the bomb.

If I were to go for a 1911 .40 cal for competition (and reliability), check out the SVI INFINITY!

If you want a nice plastic gun in .40 cal for competition, then I would go with the H&K COMBAT/COMPETITION.

I really liked the features of the USPSA SIG P226...but from my understanding, it is only chambered in 9mm.

I know there are folks who swear by Glocks...but they never seemed to fit my hand. I actually had a compact45 Glock, which I sent in to Robar to have the crazy-cool stipling/grip reduction work done on it...but I still didn't like the "feel of it". So I placed it on consignment at CITY ARMS, and it sold the very next day. (I guess some Glock afficianado got a dream deal of the century).

Bottom line, it's just like finding the perfect mate/spouse...it just has to fit perfectly the first time. You'll know something is different (good) about it the first time you pick it up and shoot it. (You should not have to adjust yourself to the weapon. It just needs to naturally fit riht the first time you pick it up).

Just my initial opinion.

In Christ: Raymond

PS: I've also heard very good things from the CZ side of the world. They are supposed to have some pretty nice .40 cal competition level toys that will rock your world, at a very reasonable price.

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I really enjoy my CZ 75B Compact .40SW. Feels very good in my hand, shoots well for me, have never had any ftf ammo issues, not quite 2000 rounds. My only complaints have been the trigger feeling like crap at first, it is pretty smooth now, still could be better. No aftermarket holster and parts like mags etc. readily available.
I am about ready to get a Glock 17 because of that. If I need anything it is all internet or order and wait. My only other handgun is a Sig P6, which is the same issue. The Glock is generic. I forgot to add it is not the best, it works for me though.

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I figured I would see at least a couple of votes for the M&P. I have one that I like.
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