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Old 11-06-2009, 7:04 PM
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Default CGN/GV sweepstakes: Donate and win a full DD M4 Carbine OLL Rifle - Now with GUNPAL!

As CGN grows to 40k users, cementing itself as California's Premier Firearms Forum, our needs grow as well. Last sweepstakes was a great success: This time we're giving away a Daniel Defense M4 Carbine OLL rifle!

This is a complete Daniel Defense M4 Carbine rifle. This rifle includes your choice of a CA fixed magazine device, a C Products 10/10 magazine, and a Daniel Defense hard case. More Information from TenPercentFirearms.com

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GeoVario's "6th Donate to CGN and win Sweepstakes " ("Sweepstakes") begins at 6:00 p.m. Pacific on November 6 1, 2009 and extends through 11:59 p.m. Pacific on April 25, 2010 (the "Sweepstakes Period"). The Sweepstakes is produced and sponsored by GeoVario, 1083 Vine St #215, Healdsburg, CA 95448 USA ("GeoVario").

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HOW TO ENTER: NO PURCHASE IS NECESSARY TO ENTER. You may enter the Sweepstakes in one of three ways: (1) Any person who donates $10 or more to CGN server fund during the Sweepstakes Period will automatically be entered into the Sweepstakes each time a donation over $10 is made. 1 entry for every $10 donated. As used in these Official Rules and Conditions, "donate" means the successful completion of the secure deposit process by correctly entering valid payment information. You will be entered once for every donation that you confirm. (2) Send a check payable to "Ben Cannon - CGN" to GeoVario, Attn: 6th Sweepstakes Entry, 1083 Vine St #215, Healdsburg, CA 95448 USA. (3) Alternatively, you may enter the Sweepstakes by submitting a 3x5 card upon which is printed by hand your name, address, telephone number, email address, age and the words "6th Donate to CGN and win Sweepstakes" to: GeoVario, Attn: Sweepstakes Entry, 1083 Vine St #215, Healdsburg, CA 95448 USA. Mechanically reproduced entries are void. One entry per postcard or confirmed donation. All postcard entries become the exclusive property of GeoVario, and will not be acknowledged or returned. Except where Prohibited, postcard entries may be published in their entirety. Except where prohibited, postcard entries must include a self-addressed, stamped envelope. By entering, participants agree to be bound by these Official Rules and Conditions and the decisions of GeoVario, which shall be final. GeoVario reserves the right to disqualify entrants who violate the Official Rules and Conditions.

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PRIZES: One winner will be chosen in a random drawing from all eligible entries received during the sweepstakes period to receive one DD M4 OLL Rifle or cash equivalent (the "Prizes"), in accordance with all law. Odds of winning depend on the number of eligible entries received. The Prize is nontransferable. All federal, state and local taxes, fees and surcharges will be the sole responsibility of the Prize winners.

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Old 11-06-2009, 9:35 PM
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who won the last raffle?
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:17 PM
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^^ who won?
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:37 PM
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So who won the last raffle?
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Old 11-06-2009, 11:01 PM
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Damn, I want that....
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So who won the last raffle?
Yeah, who did win the last raffle?

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Old 11-06-2009, 11:05 PM
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I'm in for a ticket. Looks like a nice rifle. The Gunpal order page says this goes to the server fund, no mention of a raffle ticket. Just want to make sure this is correct.

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Old 11-07-2009, 11:39 AM
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Click below to enter with GUNPAL - There is no limit to the number of tickets you may purchase. For connivence sake we've made some 2,5, and 10-packs of tickets available ...

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I want to enter and I don't want to purchase...but I still have to purchase a ticket? I don't get this.
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Old 11-07-2009, 1:01 PM
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I want to enter and I don't want to purchase...but I still have to purchase a ticket? I don't get this.
Read the included rules and you will find the below in the "How to enter" section;
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Though I believe the only way to include a SASE with the postcard is to send the postcard (with SASE) in another envelope.
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Old 11-07-2009, 1:12 PM
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User Patman won the Sig, he's selected .40cal - http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=194133

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Old 11-07-2009, 2:32 PM
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now this one i really want

hopefully my first .223/5.56

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in for 1! all i can get my dad has something against rifles
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(1) Any person who donates $10 or more to CGN server fund ..
so this is for another server?
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2010, i have a while to enter
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Donated/entered!
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and now i see april 25 well thats a long wait..
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I want to buy tickets but don't want to join GunPal. Is there a way to buy tickets through a credit card?
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so this is for another server?
Several, plus costs to run 'em. GV eats quite a bit of money each month hosting CGN at no charge.

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You can use GP with just your CC. If you really wanted to you could delete your CC afterwords I suppose. The signup process at GP is really quite painless - and no bank account required.
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You can use GP with just your CC. If you really wanted to you could delete your CC afterwords I suppose. The signup process at GP is really quite painless - and no bank account required.
Credit Cards don't require I furnish my birth date too. Heck, even PayPal doesn't need my birthday. Too much information required to buy some raffle tickets.

Too bad some genius hasn't yet figured out a way to buy goods and services over the internet with just a credit card. . .
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It's a raffle for a gun, not a cherry pie... DOB is required, get over it.
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ok, dumb question folks.
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trying to figure out how many i can squeeze by the wife.
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ok, dumb question folks.
i cant seem to see a price listed for the raffle tickets anywhere. can anyone tell me what they are runnig.

trying to figure out how many i can squeeze by the wife.
$10 each
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In the past, PayPal has been acceptable - can it be used for this also?

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In the past, PayPal has been acceptable - can it be used for this also?

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why would Ben want to support PayPal when he now has GunPal up and running?
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why would Ben want to support PayPal when he now has GunPal up and running?
I actually would if they'd let me - my fiduciary duty to calguns.net and GeoVario is separate from my duties at GUNPAL.

(things get interesting and complex when you have more than 1 pony)

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Actually, Paypal still has some of our money from the last time... Needless to say PayPal is not acceptable.
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How many tickets will be sold? If you don't mind, I'll post a link for this raffle on my site.
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Is the winner able to receive the carbine in a left-hand configuration?
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Since these benefit CGN, not CGF should these be in a section other than 2A, Politics, and Laws? Might get more traffic in general gun discussion.
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HOW TO ENTER: NO PURCHASE IS NECESSARY TO ENTER. You may enter the Sweepstakes in one of three ways: (1) Any person who donates $10 or more to CGN server fund during the Sweepstakes Period will automatically be entered into the Sweepstakes each time a donation over $10 is made. 1 entry for every $10 donated. As used in these Official Rules and Conditions, "donate" means the successful completion of the secure deposit process by correctly entering valid payment information. You will be entered once for every donation that you confirm. (2) Send a check payable to "Ben Cannon - CGN" to GeoVario, Attn: 6th Sweepstakes Entry, 1083 Vine St #215, Healdsburg, CA 95448 USA. (3) Alternatively, you may enter the Sweepstakes by submitting a 3x5 card upon which is printed by hand your name, address, telephone number, email address, age and the words "6th Donate to CGN and win Sweepstakes" to: GeoVario, Attn: Sweepstakes Entry, 1083 Vine St #215, Healdsburg, CA 95448 USA. Mechanically reproduced entries are void. One entry per postcard or confirmed donation.
I was interested in making a donation by check but there are at least two problem with the rules for people entering by check.

First, "donate" is defined only as using the "secure deposit process" (which I assume means gunpal.net). That means that by definition sending a check is not considered a donation for purposes of contest entry.

Second, the entire section defining $10 per entry is specific to section (1) (the gunpal section). Nothing in section (2) states how much is required per entry for checks, merely that "a check payable" should be sent. That implies it is one entry per check (regardless of amount).

But then the whole thing closes by saying "One entry per postcard or confirmed donation." But checks don't require postcards, and checks aren't considered donations, so I don't even know if checks are considered entries.

Can someone repost the rules with these problems cleaned up?
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now this one i really want

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Um, IIRC jarhead995 is 14. I'm "fairly sure" Ben isn't jarhead's dad (unless Ben has anything he needs to confess ), and I suspect neither he nor GV has a special dispensation to violate the law. I suppose the only way this could work would be if the rifle were transferred to his dad first--but if his dad "has something against rifles" how likely is this?

Jarhead, as a minor interested in guns, you really need to learn the California and Federal rules about minors and guns before you accidentally get yourself into real trouble. If you find them oppressive, feel free to join the fight, but know how to live within them in the meantime. Dad's rules, too.

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"Donate and win a full DD M4 Carbine OLL Rifle - Now with GUNPAL! "

So, this rifle is classed as a Destructive Device by BATFE? A DD M4 is all the more cool, but aren't there a couple of extra legal complications?

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I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can. :43:
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:56 PM
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Too bad some genius hasn't yet figured out a way to buy goods and services over the internet with just a credit card. . .
Theft and fraud would flourish in a system like that.


Gunpal looks just as secure as any other payment processing service. I'll be buying some tickets soon.
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Old 11-09-2009, 4:25 PM
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I was interested in making a donation by check but there are at least two problem with the rules for people entering by check.

First, "donate" is defined only as using the "secure deposit process" (which I assume means gunpal.net). That means that by definition sending a check is not considered a donation for purposes of contest entry.

Second, the entire section defining $10 per entry is specific to section (1) (the gunpal section). Nothing in section (2) states how much is required per entry for checks, merely that "a check payable" should be sent. That implies it is one entry per check (regardless of amount).

But then the whole thing closes by saying "One entry per postcard or confirmed donation." But checks don't require postcards, and checks aren't considered donations, so I don't even know if checks are considered entries.

Can someone repost the rules with these problems cleaned up?

i think it's obvious that the check needs to be $10. it says in there somewhere near the top that you get one entry per $10. a check is a secured payment because it comes with all the info on it. you're trying to find fault that isn't there. donations need to be at least $10 to enter, and it told you you could send a check so it will count as an entry, and the checks and postcards thing......those are seperate ways of entering the raffle. send a check, OR send a postcard (obviously the cheapest way to go), OR use Gunpal. dont dig too hard, it's all right there in front of you.
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