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Old 08-25-2009, 9:14 AM
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My husband bought a Ruger P95 and I can't shoot the darn thing.
My hands are very small and the grip is so big I can't get
a good grip on it (even with both hands) It jams everytime
I shoot it. He can unload the magazine and no jams! I even
look at the gun and it jams on me. It's very annoying.

I have never had this problem with any of my guns!
Just this Ruger P95.

My question is anyone have any advice on a 9mm with
a smaller grip I can buy for myself.

Thanks!

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Old 08-25-2009, 9:41 AM
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see the thread below this one: good for gift. has a lot of suggestions.

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ps sorry i can't help. i have a .45acp as well as lots of .357 revolvers.
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Speaking to Sig about a gun for my wife, they suggested the Sig P239.
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As I wrote in the other post: how about a Beretta 92FS Compact Type M? It took me a while to find one, but it is now one of my GF's favorites, along with the Sig P6. Both of these are smallish single stack 9mm's, so they are better suited to smaller hands. The Beretta might be nice because they are tough to jam, with the open top (impossible?). Check out a Sig P239 if you want something a little higher end.
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Hey folks, I am on the spot here. Dezchick is my wife. I bought this p95
because it looked like a sweet gun for $320.00

So far, great gun. I picked it up yesterday after a month long cool off and dros

I figured we shot 150 rounds though it last night.

I myself shot it, not a single jam,

I am truly amazed, Pretty accurate gun, and it drops the spent shells,, for
the most part within a 15 foot radius to the right

So, Wife (Dezertchick) shots it, and jams up almost every shot, We try every hand arm
combination to her to keep it rigid enough to operate, and still jams
every time on her.

So im at a loss, I looked at the Sig this morning, over $800.00

Next move, go to gun range, rent something that will work for Dezerchick
and go from there.

I knew going in, this P95 may have a too large of a grip for her, her hands are
about half of my size, but could not pass up for the price.

Sorry babe, the Walther p22 and the revolvers will have to suffice for now

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Sig P239 or try the S&W-M&Ps model.The M&P comes with three interchangeable backstraps to accommodate a wide variety of hand sizes,sits low in the hand,and has shorter trigger reach,try it and you will like the feel of the weapon in the hand much better.
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You can get a Sig P6 for a little more than the Ruger:
http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....oducts_id/1903
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I am a big fan of the Makarov (though that isn't a true 9mm)
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Sig P239 or try the S&W-M&Ps model.The M&P comes with three interchangeable backstraps to accommodate a wide variety of hand sizes,sits low in the hand,and has shorter trigger reach,try it and you will like the feel of the weapon in the hand much better.

+1 I would also suggest the S&W - M&P 9mm .... Very nice gun and comfortable for a womans hand. Try renting one from a range and take one for a spin

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Lindz likes HPs but likes the ergos of CZ75/SP-01 better. I agree with her, for different reasons. Sigs are comfortable but a little fat- a thin-gripped CZ or 1911 is her favorite.
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I can second the CZ and +1 for price.
1911s and other single stackers like the sig 239 or kahrs are quite nice as well and should be at least explored. Each of these has been liked by more than one women I have taught.
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Would recommend:

S&W 39
Sig 239
Sig 225/P6
or Browning High Power if you want more capacity.

Try before you buy.


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Maybe this will be helpful. Your husband probably has a stronger grip than you do which is why the Ruger functions fine for him. When you consider a soft grip, compounded by the poor grip because of hand size you are most likely limp-wristing the gun. The gun requires a firm grip to cycle the slide. if you limp-wrist, you are absorbing the energy needed to cycle it. Make sure your forearm is straight with the wrist and bend your elbow slightly. Don't fight the recoil. Let the gun rise up and then bring it back down to the target. This will shift the recoil from the wrist to the elbow and let the slide function as it should. A good way to know how hard to grip a pistol is to think of it as an egg. Grip it tight enough to hang on, but not hard enough to break the egg.

What happens all to often is that we buy a 9mm because its a smaller cartridge. The guns are lighter and the lighter frame makes the gun more snappy on the felt recoil. 9mm autos are known to have an unpleasant muzzle flip. Just for fun, borrow or rent a 45acp 5" barrel. The gun weighs more which cancels the recoil better and the bullet is slower which helps too. A lot of women find the 1911 easier to shoot than most 9mm.

If you have your heart set on 9mm because frankly, its cheaper to buy ammo and smaller overall, then find a pistol with a dual spring setup on the guide rod. HK USP or P2000 are a great example. The main spring captures the initial force and the secondary spring stops the slide from hammering the frame. The second component is the felt recoil you probably don't like. When you are more comfortable with the felt recoil, you won't feel the need to limp-wrist out of anticipation. The added benefit is the cool factor your husband will like. My guess is, you will not be a collector of guns like most guys are. Spend a little extra on the right gun and enjoy the times when you do go shooting. Can I also add, the HK family of pistols use a finish which is very resistant to corrosion. This means you won't have to keep it oiled like most other guns. Less maintenance is needed.




The pistol comes with multiple size back straps to accommodate all size hands.

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i'm so glad you're being proactive re the next gun and not leaving it to hubby!

the kahr is the one i did not like because the cartridge ejected into my face or my hair....neither of which was pleasant or conducive to continued shooting.

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CZ75B with alumagrips. My wife loves that gun and she has tiny hands.

This is not my gun just posted for example.

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Ivan beat me to it. I was going to say CZ sp-01 or 75b. and add the bersa thunder 9, or ruger px4 storm with interchangable backstraps, or m&p 9mm. I think you'll have OK luck with the bunch of them. Good luck finding a P.P. bersa though.
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Check out the Smith and Wesson M&P series. The major feature I like is the adjustable grip.
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The issue with many guns is that double stacked magazines means fat grips.

On the Ruger, putting on thinner grips may help. Gun probably jams on her because she doesn't have a firm grip.

Does it have to be a 9mm, a Colt 45 is a single stack and may fit her hand better. I shoot best with a 45 myself and recoil is not that bad. You could convert a 1911 to fire 9mm.

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glock 19 maybe? try a walther ppk, its not a 9mm tho its a .380, just below a 9mm
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With all the problems walther has lately, i'd pick a $400 bersa thunder .380 over that for the price. She may even like it.
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With all the problems walther has lately, i'd pick a $400 bersa thunder .380 over that for the price. She may even like it.

thats true. forgot about that. maybe a beretta px4 (i think thats what its called) or an HK P2000...?
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Dezertchik, did you check out that Beretta in the classifieds I showed you in post 19?? those have interchangeable backstraps to adjust for different sized hands. A pharmacist that I work with bought one and he has very small hands. He loves that thing and got it in .45acp with stellar reviews saying the recoil is very manageable. Check it out.
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If you can locate one, I highly recommend a S&W 3913 or 3914
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Very compact, reliable and accurate and great for shooters
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there was also a smith and wesson 3954, i think. there was also a 3913LS [lady smith]. and some that were labeled tactical.

actually, i would love to have a 3913/3914.....or the 3954.



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glock 19, my mom will only shoot 2 guns here mosquito and her g19
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no make sure they are double action, where the hammer stays back because the reach for the trigger pull you wont like. glock 19 is a good pistol tho
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As a woman with small hands I tried many, many guns before settling on my Glock 19. Gentlemen you should not assume that a woman will not become a gun collector. Ladies like to accessorize so I think the pink Mosquito would look nice with my pink ears (protection), and I don't think my husband and his buddies will be asking to take it to the range. The Sig P226 is also a nice gun. I got to try it a 2 weeks back when I invited myself along to the range with the guys. My husband's buddy promptly took it back when after only 10 rounds he saw I was a better shot with his new gun. It was well balanced and is definitely going on my list. Some of the 1911's I've tried did not feel balanced when I handeled them. Maybe I have weak wrists, but my suggestion is to "Try before you buy." Only you will know what is right for you.
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As a woman with small hands I tried many, many guns before settling on my Glock 19. Gentlemen you should not assume that a woman will not become a gun collector. Ladies like to accessorize so I think the pink Mosquito would look nice with my pink ears (protection), and I don't think my husband and his buddies will be asking to take it to the range. The Sig P226 is also a nice gun. I got to try it a 2 weeks back when I invited myself along to the range with the guys. My husband's buddy promptly took it back when after only 10 rounds he saw I was a better shot with his new gun. It was well balanced and is definitely going on my list. Some of the 1911's I've tried did not feel balanced when I handeled them. Maybe I have weak wrists, but my suggestion is to "Try before you buy." Only you will know what is right for you.
I love my P226!
I went to the range and tried several 9mm guns until I picked up my 226, and fell in love.
I can't handle how boxy Glocks are, and the XD didn't feel as right as the 226

But like everyone else has been saying, try before you buy.. you will know the right gun when you feel it.
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My wife has teeny hands, she's very petite.

She really digs the SIG P6/P225. Best deal going in a reliable 9mm. Never malfunctioned on her little wrists and hands. Turner's has 'em for $400. They were $300 last year. You can get similar deals on the SIG P6 in the Private Sales section here on Calguns if you despise Turner's or if they're too far from you.

Another small 9mm I like is the CZ P01. Alot of guys hate the CZ's because of the small slide not giving much to grab onto whe chambering a round or clearing the weapon. Again, my wife likes this because of the small slide. She and I think it's the most perfectly balanced compact 9mm ever! Only problem is they're now costing close to $600...

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I agree, the Sig P6's are fine 9mm single stacks
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Linda loves her P7. It just works for her. She also liked the CZ spo1.
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Thank you everyone for your advice.

I know where a Sig 289 is and going to check it out.
I plan on test shooting anything before I buy.

Thanks again,
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Thank you everyone for your advice.

I know where a Sig 289 is and going to check it out.
I plan on test shooting anything before I buy.

Thanks again,
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let us know how it goes, please!

personally, i woudn't let price stop me from getting what i wanted. i might wait and save a bit more but i'd get what i wanted.

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I feel your pain. My wife has very small hands and I am built like the big gorilla that I am.
I took her to 3 gun shops, 2 indoor shooting ranges that rented guns and pestered many friends for her to shoot MANY different guns. I did this so she would find the right gun that worked for her.

She ended up with a Springfield XD 9mm subcompact because she could cycle the action very easily, it fit her hand and she was able to conceal it better with her body style.

Oddly enough, she thought at first that she would just use my P95... Jammed every time due to her weak wrists. No biggy, but better to find out that it wasn't a good gun for her before she started carrying it.

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Thank you everyone for your advice.

I know where a Sig 289 is and going to check it out.
I plan on test shooting anything before I buy.

Thanks again,
Ann
my duh---I will look at 229 or 226
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Old 08-28-2009, 11:06 AM
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My husband bought a Ruger P95 and I can't shoot the darn thing.
My hands are very small and the grip is so big I can't get
a good grip on it (even with both hands) It jams everytime
I shoot it. He can unload the magazine and no jams! I even
look at the gun and it jams on me. It's very annoying.

I have never had this problem with any of my guns!
Just this Ruger P95.

My question is anyone have any advice on a 9mm with
a smaller grip I can buy for myself.

Thanks!
Try a sig P6 if they have one over at Karls Hardware...
or the Kahr or the glock 19...or the ruger sr9 or the smith M&P
The gun is too big for most people and yes that is what is leading to the problems you are having...
If you want to hire some instruction with a female instructor who will let you shoot her guns, try KernCCW.com
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