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Well it finally happened.I went to the local CHP office to meet my wife there for Vin verification on a motorcycle.I pulled into the lot.The officer was there already He shakes my hand and goes into bringing Me up speed on the bike.Then I say"In accordance with the instructions set by the county Sheriff,I need to tell you that I have a CCW license and am armed at this time"The officer replies fine with Me,we need to go into the office so leave it in your truck."Then while he waits I unloaded it and lock it up in the service body of My truck. Then we go about business as usual.Kinda weird to handle it in front of a LEO for Me, but as it turns out it was a non-event as well.
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Nice job.
My first encounter w/ LEO I said nothing until he asked... that sitch did not go too well. I got my gun back after he unloaded it... no ticket, just a good chew-out session. Second encounter in another County, I came clean immediately. No ticket, and Officer was just very cool. The CCW is not a 'get out of ticket free card'... of that I am certain, I just happened to get luck on that deal.
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This is how it should be. A non-issue!
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Are you sure you have to tell any LEO you come across? Or is it just ones you have dealings with? Are pulled over by?
I'm fairly positive we don't have to up here (shasta) or I can see how annoying it could get whenever an LEO walks by you. Also, whats with the unloading and securing? You have a CCW. You can have a loaded and concealed weapon. Why are you unloading it?
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Is this a requirement of all Kern Permits?....As far as unloading, are you infact supposed to obey all orders from a Peace Officer in regards to CCW? Would probably be in your best interest to do so....
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Telling LEO is a condition of Kern permits,Only LE you are in contact with.I'd consider a LEO I'm in contact with as being the guy I was going into the station with to fill out a report.So,I informed before we went any further.And if the LEO says leave it in the truck,that's what I'd do.and did do.As farf as unlloading,If I'm not there in control of the firearm then it's not being carried and it's just a gun locked up.
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I think the key part of this encounter is the attitude and professionalism of the specific officer. Cops are human beings like the rest of us and as such are susceptible to all sorts of emotional weakness - their training and experience helps them overcome those weaknesses in most cases, but not all. This LEO clearly behaved appropriately and professionally instead of hassling you over your CCW declaration. The latter response is something I could easily see happening.
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Same condition for OC permits as well, need to inform LEO if we encounter them while CCWing.
My last encounter was back in 04 when I got involved in an accident. Responding CHP ask for my ID and I handed my permit along with it, kind of a silent way to inform him I was lawful carrying. He didn't even ask where my gun was. Wrote the incident report and sent both of us on our way.
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The PC allows for a CCW'er to legally carry in a state courthouse, but good luck making it past the metal detectors. Federal courthouses, no way.
http://www.calccw.com/Forums/where-c...ourthouse.html
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San Diego County - The Sheriff RECOMMENDS letting the Officer know you have a permit. For Officer Safety Reasons. There is NO STATE LAW that requires you tell the LEO, however, telling him you have a permit is recommended over him/her seeing or finding your gun and responding accordingly by either pointing his gun at you and/or shooting you. I clearly state that the Sheriff recommends it, and I recommend telling the LEO if there is any chance that you may be asked to step out of the vehicle, any chance the LEO could see your gun, ammo, or magazine, or anything that might make him think you have a weapon, and represent a possible threat to the officer. I have given my License, Registration, Proof of Insurance, and CCW Permit on several occasions. Never had a problem, other than a traffic ticket.
Some LEO's want to know if there is a gun in your vehicle. Some don't care unless you are pointing it at them.
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Did you really said it word for word what you typed here? Sounds a bit nerdy... =)
Then I say "In accordance with the instructions set by the county Sheriff, I need to tell you that I have a CCW license and am armed at this time" |
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And, when you disarm and leave your gun in the car, you are not CCWing anymore, and it needs to be empty and locked. |
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The two biggest issueing counties for CCWs in California are the 10th and 13th highest population counties in the State (blue). (Soon Kern will pass San Fran). There are a lot of smaller counties that won't issue (red)
Los Angeles 10,363,850 San Diego 3,146,274 Orange 3,121,251 Riverside 2,088,322 San Bernardino 2,055,766 Santa Clara 1,820,176 Alameda 1,543,000 Sacramento 1,424,415 Contra Costa 1,051,674 Fresno 931,098 Ventura 831,537 San Francisco 824,525 Kern 817,517 San Mateo 734,453 San Joaquin 680,183 Stanislaus 525,903 Sonoma 484,470 Tulare 435,254 Monterey 428,549 Solano 423,970 Santa Barbara 425,710 Placer 333,401 San Luis Obispo 267,154 Santa Cruz 265,183 Marin 257,406 Merced 255,250 Butte 220,407 Yolo 199,066 Shasta 181,380 El Dorado 179,722 Imperial 176,158 Kings 154,434 Madera 150,887 Napa 136,704 Humboldt 132,821 Nevada 99,186 Sutter 95,878 Mendocino 90,163 Yuba 71,929 Lake 64,059 Tehama 62,419 San Benito 57,784 Tuolumne 56,799 Calaveras 46,127 Siskiyou 45,695 Amador 37,943 Lassen 35,757 Del Norte 29,419 Glenn 29,195 Colusa 21,910 Plumas 20,917 Mariposa 18,406 Inyo 18,152 Mono 13,759 Trinity 13,966 Modoc 9,702 Sierra 3,400 Alpine 1,222 Source: CA Department of Finance
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PC?
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. . . Now,If if super Gangster cool I could have said "I have a Gun" I'm sure I would have gotten a different response from the Cop.
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There rarely is an issue with CCW holders.
They know there is a background check involved and they are pretty much powerless to do anything beings loaded/concealed firearms are legal. Try open-carrying that firearm without a CCW and see what happens.
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Whats worse than that,is,I have passed the background and all of the HOOPS Set up by the state and local authorities.and if I carry any gun NOT listed on the license.I'm busted.
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