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Old 10-26-2009, 11:07 PM
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I think the key part of this encounter is the attitude and professionalism of the specific officer. Cops are human beings like the rest of us and as such are susceptible to all sorts of emotional weakness - their training and experience helps them overcome those weaknesses in most cases, but not all. This LEO clearly behaved appropriately and professionally instead of hassling you over your CCW declaration. The latter response is something I could easily see happening.
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Old 10-27-2009, 01:22 AM
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You cannot take a loaded weapon into a state bulding,ESPECIALLY A CHP OFFICE CCW OR NOT. hahahahah That sounds like bad ju ju no? And as far as county rules??There are? Ive got a CCW and no one ever mentioned anything as far as rules pertaining to when to tell an LEO. I wouldnt tell an LEO unless he asked..That just sounds like coomplications..
PC? You absolutely CAN carry in a state building.
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Old 10-27-2009, 09:12 AM
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PC? You absolutely CAN carry in a state building.
Not in a courthouse, I can tell you that for a fact.
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Same condition for OC permits as well, need to inform LEO if we encounter them while CCWing.

My last encounter was back in 04 when I got involved in an accident. Responding CHP ask for my ID and I handed my permit along with it, kind of a silent way to inform him I was lawful carrying. He didn't even ask where my gun was. Wrote the incident report and sent both of us on our way.
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Not in a courthouse, I can tell you that for a fact.
The PC allows for a CCW'er to legally carry in a state courthouse, but good luck making it past the metal detectors. Federal courthouses, no way.

http://www.calccw.com/Forums/where-c...ourthouse.html
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San Diego County - The Sheriff RECOMMENDS letting the Officer know you have a permit. For Officer Safety Reasons. There is NO STATE LAW that requires you tell the LEO, however, telling him you have a permit is recommended over him/her seeing or finding your gun and responding accordingly by either pointing his gun at you and/or shooting you. I clearly state that the Sheriff recommends it, and I recommend telling the LEO if there is any chance that you may be asked to step out of the vehicle, any chance the LEO could see your gun, ammo, or magazine, or anything that might make him think you have a weapon, and represent a possible threat to the officer. I have given my License, Registration, Proof of Insurance, and CCW Permit on several occasions. Never had a problem, other than a traffic ticket.

Some LEO's want to know if there is a gun in your vehicle. Some don't care unless you are pointing it at them.
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Did you really said it word for word what you typed here? Sounds a bit nerdy... =)

Then I say "In accordance with the instructions set by the county Sheriff, I need to tell you that I have a CCW license and am armed at this time"
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The vast majority of us don't have to worry about the details of CCW since we will NEVER get them. OC, LA, SD - i.e. MOST of CA.

everything is more laid back in small towns and counties.
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It would be nice if CA went to Alaska/Vermont style carry and this sort of thing wasn't a big deal
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171b. (a) Any person who brings or possesses within any state or
local public building or at any meeting required to be open to the
public pursuant to Chapter 9 (commencing with Section 54950) of Part
1 of Division 2 of Title 5 of, or Article 9 (commencing with Section
11120) of Chapter 1 of Part 1 of Division 3 of Title 2 of, the
Government code, any of the following is guilty of a public offense
punishable by imprisonment in a county jail for not more than one
year, or in the state prison:
(1) Any firearm.
(2) Any deadly weapon described in Section 653k or 12020.
(3) Any knife with a blade length in excess of four inches, the
blade of which is fixed or is capable of being fixed in an unguarded
position by the use of one or two hands.
(4) Any unauthorized tear gas weapon.
(5) Any taser or stun gun, as defined in Section 244.5.
(6) Any instrument that expels a metallic projectile, such as a BB
or pellet, through the force of air pressure, CO2 pressure, or
spring action, or any spot marker gun or paint gun.
(b) Subdivision (a) shall not apply to, or affect, any of the
following:
(1) A person who possesses weapons in, or transports weapons into,
a court of law to be used as evidence.
(2) (A) A duly appointed peace officer as defined in Chapter 4.5
(commencing with Section 830) of Title 3 of Part 2, a retired peace officer with authorization to carry concealed weapons as described in subdivision (a) of Section 12027, a full-time paid peace officer of
another state or the federal government who is carrying out official
duties while in California, or any person summoned by any of these
officers to assist in making arrests or preserving the peace while he
or she is actually engaged in assisting the officer.
(B) Notwithstanding subparagraph (A), subdivision (a) shall apply
to any person who brings or possesses any weapon specified therein
within any courtroom if he or she is a party to an action pending
before the court.
(3) A person holding a valid license to carry the firearm pursuant
to Article 3 (commencing with Section 12050) of Chapter 1 of Title 2
of Part 4.
There might be something specific about cop shops, I dunno.

And, when you disarm and leave your gun in the car, you are not CCWing anymore, and it needs to be empty and locked.
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