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Old 09-09-2017, 9:59 AM
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Testing reduced recoil loads for 00 and #4 buck. Not much data available. Anyone have experience reducing 12 ga recoil in the 7 to 20 yard range for an 870 with 18.5" cylinder barrel? I am working up loads with Unique and Titegroup. 1.125, 1 and .75 ounce load weights. So far, lighter loads with slower powder (Unique) give OK patterns with reduced "kick".
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Old 09-09-2017, 6:27 PM
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Yea I use it all the time in 3-gun it works great and I sure wouldn't want to get hit by it.........I've used Fiocchi and Federal they work and have no problems cycling my M2 or Versamax.

I also know many who have had good luck with the Rio stuff, I have only used their slugs.
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Old 09-09-2017, 9:11 PM
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You'll need to get some faster powder made for light loads....700x, e3, Red dot, Clays, WST, American Select.....etc . Get a Lyman Shotshell Manual and read how to reload shotgun shells then follow the recipies in the manual

Look for recopies for 1oz in the 1100fps range and follow them,.....you may or may not be able to fit the correct weight of buck in the shell ......but do not experiment changing components to make it fit, dangerous to gun and shooter. Try another recipe if thats the case

If you realize that low recoil Buck and low recoil " birdshot" are the same load with different size projectiles , you will be on the right track.

PS there is no working up loads in shotgun shell reloading....its very different then rifle or pistol reloading......thats not a road you want to try

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It's pretty universal, that you can always reduce the payload, keeping the rest the same and be "safe". Whether it's a good round, is a different question.

Buck will invariably be light for a given volume. (a recipe for 1-1/8 birdshot, may only hold 7/8 of Buckshot).

You can also reduce the powder charge on a published buck recipe. As long as everything exits the barrel (it doesn't take much, a primer alone will often suffice), you are "safe".

For HD, I'd lean to maintaining much of the payload and reducing the velocity. For hunting, I'd prolly go the other way...reducing payload and maintaining velocity. Does "pattern" really matter at 25 feet?

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Ballistic Products makes a manual specifically for loading buckshot.. some of the shotgun data manuals (Lyman for instance) have slug and buck data.. Alliant has had data in the past for buckshot in their annual published guide.. you might find some data in Hodgdon's annual as well as online data sources.

I've successfully substituted 00 buck for a target payload.. Generally #00 buck is about an 1/8 of an ounce per pellet.. 9 pellets stacked 3 at a time in the wad, 3 high equals roughly 1 1/8 oz.. look up data for a 1200 fps target load in 12 gauge, substitute 9 pellets of 00 buck, crimp, and mark the shell..
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You'll need to get some faster powder made for light loads....700x, e3, Red dot, Clays, WST, American Select.....etc . Get a Lyman Shotshell Manual and read how to reload shotgun shells then follow the recipies in the manual

Look for recopies for 1oz in the 1100fps range and follow them,.....you may or may not be able to fit the correct weight of buck in the shell ......but do not experiment changing components to make it fit, dangerous to gun and shooter. Try another recipe if thats the case

If you realize that low recoil Buck and low recoil " birdshot" are the same load with different size projectiles , you will be on the right track.

PS there is no working up loads in shotgun shell reloading....its very different then rifle or pistol reloading......thats not a road you want to try


I second the faster powder. I love Alliant e3 for my 12ga loads. Burns very clean. My last go around I bought 8 lbs for shot shell.


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