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Old 12-01-2015, 1:04 PM
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Howdy,

I really enjoy shooting steel with .38 special. I pick them up from my local reloader, specs say...

148gr HBWC - 713 FPS

and

158g SWC - 740 FPS


I recently picked up a S&W 929 in 9mm and I'm looking for that same ".38spc experience", but I'm not finding it. The closest thing that my local reloader has is

147gr TMJ - 975 FPS

or

125 GR LRN - 950 FPS

I've shot both, but neither one is what I'm looking for, and I cant seem to locate lower FPS ammo on the interwebz. Plus the LRN leaded the bejeezus out of my barrel

I'm going to guess that low energy ammo is not available in 9mm b/c it will fail to cycle a semi-auto...? (But since I'm shooting a revolver I don't have that issue.) Is is possible to get <800fps 9mm plinking ammo?

I am not a reloader, and cannot start in the near future. Does anyone have any suggestions for factory and/or 'factory reloads' that might fit the bill?

Or perhaps someone could give me some 'conversation starters' with my local reloader.

THanks For Reading
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Old 12-01-2015, 1:56 PM
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Volver said,

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Or perhaps someone could give me some 'conversation starters' with my local reloader.
I believe your correct about pressure levels of 9mm. Re-manufacturers need it to work in all guns, not just revolvers.

If you actually have a "local reloader" call and ask if they will make you a special run of low velocity ammo. They would likely require a large "minimum order" to do so because they would lose production of their standard product while making yours.

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Old 12-01-2015, 3:47 PM
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http://www.stand1armory.com/store/p1...R_FACTOR).html

Never tried it. I just googled "reduced recoil 9mm"

Sometimes the right keyword gets you what you are looking for. Maybe "low power 9mm", or "low velocity 9mm" or "Low fps 9mm", something like that.
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Old 12-01-2015, 8:35 PM
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Convert your S&W 9mm 929 to .380acp or .32acp for recoil reduction.
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Old 12-01-2015, 10:18 PM
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Thanks for the replies, reduced recoil was not a search term I had considered. (but should have)

Looks like they have an even lighter option...

http://www.stand1armory.com/store/p6...S_ONLY%29.html

These actually have a warning that they prolly won't cycle a semi-auto.

but they don't give an FPS rating... I will contact them
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Old 12-02-2015, 7:41 AM
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using this site:

http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmpf-5.1.cgi

I get an FPS of ROUGHLY 900 fps, with that 115 grain boolit.

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your 38 sp is 158 grains at 740 fps.

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Using THIS site:

http://www.handloads.com/calc/recoil.asp

and puttin gin dummy values for gun weight and powder charge (equivalent), and looking at the recoil values...

You are looking at a 10% reduction in recoil velocity and impulse, and a 20% reduction in recoil energy.

So that round may not actually give you the 38 special feel, but even lower. Maybe a 22 mag feel.
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Old 12-04-2015, 7:47 AM
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Well I emailed them on tuesday, I have not rec'd a reply, now their contact page says their phones are down. Anyone have any experience with this company?


155 OAK LAWN AVENUE
DALLAS, TX 75207
214-655-AMMO (2666) Our phone system is currently down.
Please contact us using info@stand1armory.com
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Old 01-05-2016, 3:53 PM
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I finally got to Load-X today and spoke to the owner about a ~750FPS 9mm load. He said we could probably go that low without stability problems. He said he would think about it, but had not been asked about it before, so there is clearly not a demand... I will send him an email and followup in 3 weeks.
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where you located volver? pm me.
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Old 03-23-2016, 7:04 PM
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Just got an email from my reloader, he has come up with a 115gr bullet @ 820 FPS. FPS not as low as I originally wanted, but I will happily shoot them.

THey will be available next week. I will hit the range and report back.
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Sounds good. 820 is still nice and slow with a 115 gr bullet.
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Some of the ammo referenced appears to be jacketed which wouldn't be allowed in a SASS (cowboy) competition. Just be aware of that limitation.
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Could use 38 short colt.
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Old 04-13-2016, 10:36 AM
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Well heres a quick vid with three different types of ammo. But, I'm not the greatest video editor...

https://youtu.be/2OyuZpO8Ph4
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Old 04-13-2016, 10:37 AM
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Some of the ammo referenced appears to be jacketed which wouldn't be allowed in a SASS (cowboy) competition. Just be aware of that limitation.
Thanks for the info.

I don't compete anymore.
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Old 04-13-2016, 10:39 AM
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Could use 38 short colt.
will that case fit in my moon clips?
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Old 04-13-2016, 1:16 PM
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will that case fit in my moon clips?
Definitely not. .38 Short Colt is a rimmed cartridge similar to the 38 S&W round.
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