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Old 09-18-2009, 1:32 PM
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Default Umarex HK MP7

I'm going to get in line for the MP7. I think they (Umarex) make a great product.

Wonder when it will come out?
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whoops, forgot the link:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...-22-lr-clones/
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Old 09-18-2009, 1:37 PM
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Hmm... In light of this, I wonder if HK is still pursuing legal action against GSG (or ATI, whichever it was.)
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I didn't see any pics, will this be legal in CA due to barrel length?
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If HK gave the license to Umarex they can actually call them MP5s, 416s and the like.
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I didn't see any pics, will this be legal in CA due to barrel length?
they can just slap a fake can on it like GSG-5
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I don't really get the point of making another MP5 .22 clone. The GSG-5 has a strong following already, and seems to be more reliable than the "Colt" M4.

But an MP7 sounds cool.

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I didn't see any pics, will this be legal in CA due to barrel length?
maybe it will look like this but with a fixed stock:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...HoLUsgO88_HRDA
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Or fix the stock closed and market it as a pistol...
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Or fix the stock closed and market it as a pistol...
Would it have to be on the doj approved list?
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It would need to be DOJ list of 'safe' guns unless someone locks the magazine in place w/mag and single shot sled to get past the drop test.

I'd be interested in the rifle version of MP7 with a fake can.
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be nice if they just pin the stock open, instead of putting a huge barrel on it to meet the 26" OAL
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be nice if they just pin the stock open, instead of putting a huge barrel on it to meet the 26" OAL
It has to have a 16 inch barrel either way, otherwise it will be an SBR.

So it will likely have a fake suppressor like the GSG-5.
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What's the point of making more MP5s ... I am only interested in getting the 416 or (MP7 -> if CA legal, probably not)... how about H&K G36, USC?

Kriss Super V in .22lr would be my dream rimfire knock-off tacticool clone...! ... how about Varmint rifle clones in 17HMR?
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I already have a GSG5. why would i want Umarex crap. The Colt M4 isn't that great i prefer the S&W Mp15-22 (in an AR pattern)
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Hmm... In light of this, I wonder if HK is still pursuing legal action against GSG (or ATI, whichever it was.)
What do you mean? H&K "won." ATI agreed to stop importing all GSG MP5 carbines and pistols effective a month or two ago.

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Hmm... In light of this, I wonder if HK is still pursuing legal action against GSG (or ATI, whichever it was.)
Legal action is over.
H&K won.
GSG is no longer producing the GSG5, ATI is no longer importing the GSG5 and ATI can not sell any GSG5s in stock after Q1 2010.
After the case was settled, H&K licensed Umarex to make .22LR MP5, .22LR HK416 & .22LR MP7 clones.
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MP7 -> if CA legal, probably not
The MP7 could be made as both a CA-legal pistol (no stock) or a CA-legal rifle (w/ barrel extension of some sort). I don't know what they're making but I assume it includes a pistol version.

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how about H&K G36, USC?
Both of those would be nice, especially the USC.
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Legal action is over.
H&K won.
GSG is no longer producing the GSG5, ATI is no longer importing the GSG5 and ATI can not sell any GSG5s in stock after Q1 2010.
After the case was settled, H&K licensed Umarex to make .22LR MP5, .22LR HK416 & .22LR MP7 clones.

GSG is certainly still producing the GSG 5. Just not importing to the US
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Here is the H&K licensed Umarex MP7.
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UMAREX holds the worldwide exclusive HK-trademark and exterior design copy license for use with this UMAREX product, granted by HK, Inc., U.S.A.
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It the MP7 comes out as a pistol I will be all over it, decisions, decisons. The MP7 or a Sig 522??? Hmm, will wait and see.

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Have been hearing bad things about Umarex, since they also build the Colt .22. Which when I shot it, I was not impressed. I will stick to my 10/22.
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The MP7 would be great...in a free state.

Even if you ditched the stock in order to make it a pistol, you would also have to lose the forward VFG. What you're left with is a big clunky .22 that somewhat resembles the original firearm. No thanks.
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