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Old 08-24-2009, 9:39 PM
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I went to the BIG 5 Sporting Goods store today and tried to purchase a 1943 Mosin Nagant 91/30. The guy would not sell me the rifle because my current address was not on my drivers license. I showed him a recent phone bill with my new address but that was not good enough. He said that I needed some kind of "government document" like a "traffic ticket" to prove where I actually live.
I am a cal resident, over 21, not a felon, not crazy, don't beat my wife; in essence, I can legally possess a gun in cal.
What gives? Is this guy correct or does he need to be transfered to the kiddy sports department?
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:29 PM
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Hes right. it sucks but its true do you have car registered in your name with the same address as your DL if not a lease if you live at home print 1 ofline have your mom or dad fill it out and you could get it notorized (i think that would work) or you could go to the dmv and tell them your address changed and they will give you a (brown card) you write your address on that and that works,
and If im wrong please pm me and tell me so, I would rather be told im wrong then tell wrong info
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:59 PM
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When you get the brown card from the DMV make sure to get them to put their stamp on it. Mine has a 4 numbers then the date and then a 2 digit number. You have to ask or they will just give you the card.
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Old 08-25-2009, 12:01 AM
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or you could go to the dmv and tell them your address changed and they will give you a (brown card) you write your address on that and that works,
Does work, used that method for my shotgun (along with a paper license since I didn't have my proper one yet).
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Does work, used that method for my shotgun (along with a paper license since I didn't have my proper one yet).
Wow, you bought a gun w/ a temporary paper license? Where was this?
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Old 08-25-2009, 1:14 AM
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Wow, you bought a gun w/ a temporary paper license? Where was this?
Big 5. But it's still just as valid as a regular license. If they complain about it inform them as such.
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Old 08-25-2009, 1:38 AM
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Not long ago the ATF came out with: If you buy a gun and your license doesn't' match your address you need a Gvt. form stating your place of residense.
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Old 08-25-2009, 1:43 AM
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Big 5. But it's still just as valid as a regular license. If they complain about it inform them as such.
http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs.php#14G

What identification is required for a person to purchase a firearm?

Clear evidence of identity and age is defined as a valid California driver's license or a valid California Identification Card issued by the DMV. Military identification is also acceptable if accompanied by permanent duty station orders indicating a posting in California, but the dealer must retain copies of both documents.

Temporary driver licenses and temporary identification cards (issued without photo) are not accepted forms of proof of identity and age.

(PC section 12071(c)(1))
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Old 08-25-2009, 2:02 AM
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http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms/dlrfaqs.php#14G

What identification is required for a person to purchase a firearm?

Clear evidence of identity and age is defined as a valid California driver's license or a valid California Identification Card issued by the DMV. Military identification is also acceptable if accompanied by permanent duty station orders indicating a posting in California, but the dealer must retain copies of both documents.

Temporary driver licenses and temporary identification cards (issued without photo) are not accepted forms of proof of identity and age.

(PC section 12071(c)(1))
Yes, but I believe he used the temp license to show his place of residence which is neither identity nor age. I'm assuming this was used along with his actual license with the old address which was properly used for identity and age.
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Update your CA driver's license.
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Update your CA driver's license.
Problem solved. This initial consultation was free of charge.
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Wow, just this year I bought 3 OLL's using my license with my old address and the brown card with no stamp on it, and a handgun using my expired license with my old address along with the temporary paper license. No one said a word about it, but I wasn't at Big 5.
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I had this same problem. You can also go to the Registrar of Voters, register and get the printout. It worked for me. Only took 10 minutes since that office has very low traffic.
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Old 10-03-2009, 6:14 PM
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heck I gave my "Auto salesperson license" by accident once, and they still sold it to me! Big 5 for a mosin, state didn't reject it either, I'm still confounded, flumuxed, and flabergasted.
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When I bought a rifle in CA, my D/L had the wrong address. CA DMV won't send you a new license when you move and change address. I had to whip out my TX CHL which had the correct address on it.
They will, but you have to pay $22 or so for it.
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Old 10-03-2009, 7:03 PM
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I dont believe the brown card method works anymore. I used it maybe 6 months ago to buy a lower. The last 2 different times at two different places i tried to use the brown card, and both places said that that was not good enough anymore. Something might have changed. I always had the problem because i have a PO box on my DL. So i went and had to get a car registration print out with my physical address.
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Old 10-03-2009, 7:39 PM
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You can also get the change of adress form and that light brown card from a AAA office, fill it out and send it off and wait about 5 days then go start the DROS process as to allow for form to be processed.
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The local Big 5 said the same thing to me when I tried to buy a 10/22 from them. I bought firearms from three different gun stores in the preceding three months, but Big 5 was the first to tell me that I needed to go to the DMV to get a printout from them with my current address. Most stores let you just print out your change of address submission (from the DMV website) and that's good enough. For handguns, they do require a second form of proof of address (I show my car registration). I was so mad at Big 5's insistence that I had to go the DMV that I walked out and drove to Retting and bought the 10/22 there with no hassle about my address.
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