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Concealed Carry Discussion General discussion regarding CCW/LTC in California |
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**Update Post 16**
----------------------------------------------------------- I just made an appointment with LAPD for mid-March. I was told they have been getting lots of calls mentioning Peruta, but that Department policy hasn't changed (YET...after March 6 it might be a different ballgame (-my words). It was pretty easy to schedule the appointment so perhaps people are still being cowed by that policy statement and history of few CCWs issued and not setting up interview appointments. Maybe people think Peruta only applies to Sheriffs or just San Diego. I don't know. Eventually I think the tidal wave of applicants will crash down on the LAPD just as has happened in San Diego once the en banc "time limit" runs out and Peruta becomes the "new policy." I want to be surfing ahead of that wave. I am convinced the app will be held for as long as possible while the Chief and City Attorney wait to see if they have any escape route in the post Peruta landscape (same as the LASD & SDSD). But they can't hold it past 90 days so it's time to start that clock. The officer from the Gun Unit that handles the applications was completely professional and went through all the things i need to bring. Beyond the initial mention of how the policy hasn't changed he came across as a neutral player, mentioning that once the application is sent in, it'll go to the Chief who will decide what to do next. He answered a few questions and even gave me directions to their offices. Honestly I expected a bit more stonewalling upfront. My initial call resulted in the dreaded voicemail, but i received a call back in under 3 business hours! I thought I was in AZ or something :-) I know its just the beginning, but there's not much to lose anymore and it's free to apply. So who else is with me, banging down the LAPD door?
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LA is ****ed. There is no way they will be able to hand the hundreds of thousands of applications by seeing people for extensive interviews. It's just a matter of time before the process is simplified.
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False is the idea of utility that sacrifices a thousand real advantages for one imaginary or trifling inconvenience; that would take fire from men because it burns, and water because one may drown in it; that has no remedy for evils except destruction. The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. -- Cesare Beccaria http://www.a-human-right.com/ |
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Is Kosal Bun still the guy at the Gun Unit taking applications?
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No. I sent you a PM with the officer's name.
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As for the CCW's I hope we start hearing some feedback soon from those going through the process. Good luck! |
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It's not a requirement, it's just saving a step since most PD's won't issue. The case was about LASD requiring you to be rejected by your local PD BEFORE you applied to them.
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Most PDs that won't issue, don't issue CCWs at all and defer to county Sheriffs. The PDs that issue to some and not to others are the problem. After Peruta goes final, they can't keep that up.
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Update: Had my interview in mid March. It was fairly painless and the gun unit officer who conducted it was professional and pleasant to work with. While he stated that LAPD "good cause" policy hasn't changed, he understands the non-LEO desire to have a CCW. "It'd be like Arizona if I had a say." Definitely not one of the "anti-gun" LEOs that we hear about.
This past week I received this letter from LAPD. At first I was sure it was a denial letter. Instead, I was pleasantly surprised that it looks like LAPD is (so far) following the Penal Code pretty closely and doing a good job of communicating what's happening in the process. Will update when I hear more.
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^^^
Nice.
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LASD doesn't do appointments, you just send in the application, but apparently LAPD does require an appointment to start the application process.
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I turned in my application to LAPD at the interview. So I'm ahead of the game vs. most LASD applicants at this point.
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Does anyone know why the CPT/CO of the Gang and Narcotics Division signed the letter? Are CCW applicants just presumed to be drug dealing gangbangers until they prove otherwise?
Could you imagine if instead of the 2A, the constitutional right at issue was equal protection for certain racial minorities? What kind of message would that send?
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Nationwide Master List of Current 2A Cases, courtesy of Al Norris @ TFL. Reloading Clubs: SF, East Bay Case Status: Peña v. Cid (Handgun Roster). SF v. 44Mag (Mag Parts Kits). Bauer v. Harris (DROS Fees). Davis v. LA (CCW policy). Jackson v. SF (Ammo/Storage). Teixeira (FFL Zoning). First Unitarian v. NSA (Privacy). Silvester (Waiting Period). Schoepf (DROS Delay). Haynie (AW ban). SFVPOA v. SF (10+ mag possession ban). Bear in Public: Drake (3CA); Moore (7CA); Richards, Peruta, McKay (9CA). |
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Gun unit of the Gang/Narcotics division is tasked with handling CCW applications within the LAPD. As scary as I've heard these guys are supposed to be, they didn't live up to the hype.
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... they might best be knowledgeable about those who SHOULD fail on GMC...
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