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Old 10-27-2010, 10:28 PM
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If you have "good cause" don't assume you can't get a permit - even in may or no issue counties.

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Somebody needs to get Stanislaus Co. changed to dark green. HOORAY!!!
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San Mateo county really, and I mean really, needs a color change.
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San Mateo county really, and I mean really, needs a color change.
Are you saying that SM's current issuance status is different than the map indicates, or are you expressing a desire that SM change its policy & practices so that it will have earned a color change?

If the former, what color do you think SM should be and what do you base your opinion upon?
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I would not refer to any of them as "Shall Issue". They are "May Issue" and "No Issue". Until the authority to issue them goes from the local sheriff to the state, we will alway's have some that will and some that won't.
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I would not refer to any of them as "Shall Issue". They are "May Issue" and "No Issue". Until the authority to issue them goes from the local sheriff to the state, we will alway's have some that will and some that won't.
More correctly, when a Federal judge tells the Sheriffs to issue to all non-prohibited persons, we essentially have variations of "may issue", save Sacramento.

We might, or might not, have some news on SM in, oh, about 2 weeks...
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The map is wildly out of date at this point...

San Mateo is at least yellow...

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Are you saying that SM's current issuance status is different than the map indicates, or are you expressing a desire that SM change its policy & practices so that it will have earned a color change?

If the former, what color do you think SM should be and what do you base your opinion upon?
Needs to be green. Based on what Gene just stated though as to SM county more likely being yellow, it may be time for me to apply. I have good cause do to the field of work I am involved with so what the heck.

Besides, there should be zero "no issue" areas on the map.
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I contacted the good people over at CalCCW and the response I got from them is something along the lines of: they have someone working on it. Look for an update in a few days.
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It is... and that's one reason it's causing Counties to be smacked around in Court.
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Needs to be green. Based on what Gene just stated though as to SM county more likely being yellow, it may be time for me to apply. I have good cause do to the field of work I am involved with so what the heck.
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Needs to be green. Based on what Gene just stated though as to SM county more likely being yellow, it may be time for me to apply. I have good cause do to the field of work I am involved with so what the heck.

Besides, there should be zero "no issue" areas on the map.
If you have decent GC, SMSO will issue. Please email me/Gray so we can keep up with your progress.

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I would change El Dorado co to yellow. They are very strict and require a police report to justify your reason or need, they also require 3 character reference letters.

http://www.edcgov.us/sheriff/forms/edso_ca_ccw_app.pdf
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I would change El Dorado co to yellow. They are very strict and require a police report to justify your reason or need, they also require 3 character reference letters.

http://www.edcgov.us/sheriff/forms/edso_ca_ccw_app.pdf
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Awesome! I just saw that there are no sponsors for El Dorado sooo.......... I guess I have to step up. I just sponsored for $100.00 Transaction ID: 82K01750GB720515C

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map needs serious updating. sac county should be light green, and some green needs to go yellow or red. i may be down to edit it if i could find the time.
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Here's Sacramento Light Green....

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Sacramento is actually dark green but that does look better

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SLO county is dark, dark red. The map is wrong.
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yeah lets work on this, we need an attack map for the cgf. i would like some input on this map from other members on what counties need updating
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Anyone having any luck in Los Angeles yet? I hate living in that dark red color!
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Alameda County should be light green. The ACSO does require a GC statement, and they also require interviews, psych testing, and want you to have persdonal liability insurance, but they do issue to ordinary folks.
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Alameda County should be light green. The ACSO does require a GC statement, and they also require interviews, psych testing, and want you to have persdonal liability insurance, but they do issue to ordinary folks.

What would be a good cause? How much do PL insurance run?

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The map is wildly out of date at this point...

San Mateo is at least yellow...

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"Your wish has been granted. San Mateo went from dark red to light green."

If you look at the map in your OP, Gene, and compare it to the old CCW map (see post #59, which I believe is the original one posted by Gene, but only w/Sacto having been made light green), you'll see there have been some changes.

At last, a break in the antis' monopoly in the SF Bay Area!

Other changes:

San Joaquin went from light red to light green.

Merced backslid from light green to yellow. But after reading what their CCW Information thread says, I think they're probably light green now.

SLO backslid from dark green to yellow. Looks like they need a little discussion w/our Right People.

Three Questions:

1) If anyone wants to see how "elections have consequences" (as Rush says), just look how San Benito went from dark red to dark green! Should their CCW thread now have "**TIME TO APPLY**" in its title?

2) Stanislaus went from yellow to dark green. Should their CCW thread now have "**TIME TO APPLY**" in its title?

3) Glenn, Lake, and Colusa went from light green to dark green. Should their CCW threads now have "**TIME TO APPLY**" in their titles?
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Wow, San Mateo went light green?
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Yes.

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Gene, I am amazed at the progress in this state. Even with the ardent attacks on our civil rights from our government, our side is winning.

But San Mateo going light green this early is too much, I'm on overload. If you told me that pigs fly I would believe you right about now. Say, we need to get a FA 2 gauge shot gun as a non destructive device. You know, for sporting purposes with those flying pigs.
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I contacted the good people over at CalCCW and the response I got from them is something along the lines of: they have someone working on it. Look for an update in a few days.
(1) Could you ask them to put in parenthesis after the description of each color in the legend the number of counties in that color, similar to what the NRA does w/their national CCW map (below)?

(2) Also, reviewing the posts over at http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=352767 makes me think that they should probably make Merced light green, not yellow.

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I know if I were renting an apartment in a neighboring county and had a lease that was expiring within a year (might have to move anyway), I'd definitely look into renting just within San Mateo county rather than outside of it. You could keep the same job and not change your commute much, but you'd be able to CCW!
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Your screwed in SF no matter where your CCW is issued. I have been made aware by my CCW instructor if you get caught with a pistol in SF, even with a valid CCW, they will more often then not confiscate your firearm and you will have to hire an attorney to get it back.
The very same attorney can sue them until their collective buttholes bleed for abridging your Fourth Amendment rights.
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No doubt it would be illegal. However not everyone who has a CCW belongs to an online forum and IF it has happended, I'm sure it's extremely rare. I was told not to mention my weapon or my CCW if stopped by LE in SF unless necessary.

NOTE: Perhaps "you're screwed in SF" in my post was a bit dramatic.
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The very same attorney can sue them until their collective buttholes bleed for abridging your Fourth Amendment rights.
Sounds like a Pyrrhic victory at best.

I'm grateful to have no cause to go anywhere near there.
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I routinely carry in SF. If SFPD wants to play 42 USC 1988 bingo, they can feel free.

If you have a 12050 permit and SFPD confiscates your firearm (while you were doing nothing wrong) CGF will happily ....educate... here.

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I'm out of touch with this, but I thought I'd read the CGF is working on something in Ventura County, trying to get some records released that show some sort of favouritism in CCW issuance, despite what the "good cause" says.

Is that anywhere near correct?
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Is that anywhere near correct?
Yes. We have a lawsuit in progress to compel release of public records, CGF v. Ventura.

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