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Old 08-03-2009, 4:02 PM
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Who makes good AR mags!? I'm looking for 10/20's and hear pmags are the way to go, but I like to looks of the metal ones better. Who makes a quality metal 10/20 mag? Also do 10/20 pmags come with a see through bullet window, or is that only for the 30rd mags?

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Only the 30's have a window. Make the 10/20's yourself.
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Old 08-03-2009, 4:12 PM
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Only the 30's have a window. Make the 10/20's yourself.
Make a 10/20 and use a high-quality follower.
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Where do you get 20's that you can mod yourself?
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Old 08-03-2009, 4:18 PM
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If you can figure out a 10rnd mod....TangoDown ARC mags are about the best mag you can buy.

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Old 08-03-2009, 4:24 PM
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If you can figure out a 10rnd mod....TangoDown ARC mags are about the best mag you can buy.

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I didn't realize they were gluing them together until recently.

Would make kits a bit tough to get.
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Old 08-03-2009, 4:27 PM
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Buy a rebuild kit and mod it yourself.. Theres a how to somewhere here..
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ProMag has a good 10/20. Some find that there is a *little* too much paint on them to fit in the mag well, and while I haven't had that problem out of five mags it seems that all you have to do is sand down the paint slightly and you're G2G.

Pmags ROCK. They just do.
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I like ANY USGI mag.

I especially like the stainless steel ones from cproducts, They come with there own anti tilt follower already and have been reliable since day one, you can however throw in magpul's followers which are great also.. The finish is great, but it does scratch off easily when it comes in contact with sharp metal/rock edges.
grey Teflon coated ones look beat up even when new.


Buy some stainless steel cproducts rebuild kits from 44mag.com and block/pin them to 10rds.

PMAG's are great but like you, I like the original look of usgi mags.

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Old 08-04-2009, 8:56 AM
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The problem with C products mags is that they're GARBAGE.

The old ones may have been reliable but their QC has gone in the toilet as of late.

If you get C products mags, get used ones. The new ones have about a 50% fail rate as best as I can tell. Actually it was a 100% fail rate for me, but after handling some more in a store it appears that only 50% or so are manufactured so poorly they wont fit in any lower or even hold rounds properly. If you do buy some in person, look straight down the back of the mag and look at the feed lips. About half the time, the feed lips will be about 1/4" off center (it's EASY to spot).

C products will replace bunk ones, sure, but you have to pay shipping. For the cost of the mag paying to have it shipped 3 times (once from distributor, once to c products, once back from c products) makes NO sense.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one...I have two of their 10-round magazines (not 10/20's or 10/30's) and they barely fit my lower, and I've had all sorts of feeding issues with them.

I later made 10/30's out of my old G.I. magazines and the AR has been flawless since. They're also a lot easier to handle than the 10-round bodies.

I don't have experience with Promags or any other polymer ones, they do get excellent reviews. But the G.I. magazines have always served me well, especially with anti-tilt followers...you just have to make sure you don't drop a full one and bend the feedlips

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The problem with C products mags is that they're GARBAGE.

The old ones may have been reliable but their QC has gone in the toilet as of late.

If you get C products mags, get used ones. The new ones have about a 50% fail rate as best as I can tell. Actually it was a 100% fail rate for me, but after handling some more in a store it appears that only 50% or so are manufactured so poorly they wont fit in any lower or even hold rounds properly. If you do buy some in person, look straight down the back of the mag and look at the feed lips. About half the time, the feed lips will be about 1/4" off center (it's EASY to spot).

C products will replace bunk ones, sure, but you have to pay shipping. For the cost of the mag paying to have it shipped 3 times (once from distributor, once to c products, once back from c products) makes NO sense.
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We may have parts to help you get what you are looking for. Take a look at the direct link to the AR Mag Page (We can and will disassemble and ship most mags for a chrge of $1.00per mag) and just enter "follower" in the search box to view the anti tilts and more. Give me a call if we can be of help. 1 866 523 2673 http://www.copesdistributing.net/ind...Path=32_36_111
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Old 08-04-2009, 2:12 PM
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The problem with C products mags is that they're GARBAGE.

The old ones may have been reliable but their QC has gone in the toilet as of late.

If you get C products mags, get used ones. The new ones have about a 50% fail rate as best as I can tell. Actually it was a 100% fail rate for me, but after handling some more in a store it appears that only 50% or so are manufactured so poorly they wont fit in any lower or even hold rounds properly. If you do buy some in person, look straight down the back of the mag and look at the feed lips. About half the time, the feed lips will be about 1/4" off center (it's EASY to spot).

C products will replace bunk ones, sure, but you have to pay shipping. For the cost of the mag paying to have it shipped 3 times (once from distributor, once to c products, once back from c products) makes NO sense.
Hmmm.....I've had the exact opposite experience. I own 10, bought them all within the last 6 months, and all are reliable. not one hiccup with any of them.

I can understand your frustration, and I guess its just run of the litter. but dont discredit them completely. Since my rifle is pretty much a range gun i preferred 10 rounders instead of 10/20 or 10/30's.
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Hmmm.....I've had the exact opposite experience. I own 10, bought them all within the last 6 months, and all are reliable. not one hiccup with any of them.

I can understand your frustration, and I guess its just run of the litter. but dont discredit them completely. Since my rifle is pretty much a range gun i preferred 10 rounders instead of 10/20 or 10/30's.
If you read my thread titled "c products mags are garbage?" then you'll understand.

I'm glad you had a good experience- but the overwhelming majority of folks that have purchased them recently had at least one that wasn't to spec.

I have discredited them completely, because they wouldn't fix their mistake without asking for more money. Addax Tactical, on the other hand, ROCKS and offered to replace them free of charge. I instead opted to make brass catchers (well one of them, with a little work, fit into the magwell of a BB-equipped build I was working on, but I don't like that I need pliers to get it out and it doesn't feed right). If you DO order C Products mags, order them from Addax Tactical because if it doesn't work out they'll go the extra mile where C Products will not.
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I vote for PMAG rebuild kits. All of mine have been flawless since round one through them. Cannot say that for any other mag I own for my ARs.
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Old 08-04-2009, 3:40 PM
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Go with Magpul PMAGS I have tried and owned just about every GI Aluminium mag out there and thought there could always be something out there a bit better. Then I got into the steel mags and didn't care for them either. I even got a CAMMENGA easy mag didn't care for it either. But once I tried a PMAG I was hooked.

They feed easier then the standard GI mags, come with the anti tilt followers, and are a heck of a lot easier to load and unload then standard GI mags. Never had one problem with the PMAGS and I have had at least one hick up with CAMMENGA, Okay, C prod, Parsons, and Colt
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If you read my thread titled "c products mags are garbage?" then you'll understand.

I'm glad you had a good experience- but the overwhelming majority of folks that have purchased them recently had at least one that wasn't to spec.

I have discredited them completely, because they wouldn't fix their mistake without asking for more money. Addax Tactical, on the other hand, ROCKS and offered to replace them free of charge. I instead opted to make brass catchers (well one of them, with a little work, fit into the magwell of a BB-equipped build I was working on, but I don't like that I need pliers to get it out and it doesn't feed right). If you DO order C Products mags, order them from Addax Tactical because if it doesn't work out they'll go the extra mile where C Products will not.
I dont remember your thread, but thank you for your explanation. +1 for Addax CS.
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i love the pmags just because they look more modern, but i still have a place in my heart for the old school ones, especially because i have 3 thirty round prebans.
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PMAGs are the way to go. Easiest to mod too.
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funny, I have no less than 20 c-products mags....not a single problem either, i have 10 rounders, 20 rounders, aluminum 10/30, stainless 10/30, and stainless 30 rounders 10 round SS 6.8 SPC, 15 round SS 6.8spc, 25 round SS 6.8SPC

i'm running them on LMT, Noveske, CMMG, Stag, RRA, Kaiser lowers....not a problem yet

I prefer the SS ones with orange anti-tilt followers....

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If you read my thread titled "c products mags are garbage?" then you'll understand.

I'm glad you had a good experience- but the overwhelming majority of folks that have purchased them recently had at least one that wasn't to spec.

I have discredited them completely, because they wouldn't fix their mistake without asking for more money. Addax Tactical, on the other hand, ROCKS and offered to replace them free of charge. I instead opted to make brass catchers (well one of them, with a little work, fit into the magwell of a BB-equipped build I was working on, but I don't like that I need pliers to get it out and it doesn't feed right). If you DO order C Products mags, order them from Addax Tactical because if it doesn't work out they'll go the extra mile where C Products will not.
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i use pmags and c-products

never had any kind of problems with either
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I've had problems with C-Products.

I've also had issues with PMAGs, HKs, OKAYs, NHMTG, D&H, Colts, .................

I think Yong is overstating because he got pissed off.
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