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Old 02-07-2005, 10:27 AM
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Great review!

I wonder if the pin operated folding stock would pass under the CA radar? Sans Flash-Hider of course.

I'd settle for a SU-16 with the original stock, heavy barrel and improved sights.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stanze:
I wonder if the pin operated folding stock would pass under the CA radar? Sans Flash-Hider of course. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
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That needs a realistic accuracy review. I bet the mini-14 is just as reliable if not more so for near the same price. I wouldn't mind having one though.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Stanze:
I'd settle for a SU-16 with the original stock, heavy barrel and improved sights. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Yep, this would be good. Throw on the D series handguards, and I'd seriously consider selling mine for a new one.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> I bet the mini-14 is just as reliable if not more so for near the same price. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

One thing nobody's got on the SU16 (AFAIK) is long-term reliability info, like 10k rounds, a few years of hauling through the woods, and such.

The Mini's definitely well-proven for reliability, despite its mediocre accuracy and lack of reliable non-factory mags.

I did some pretty rough accuracy testing with an SKS, an M1 Carbine, a Mini 14, and an SU16, and they were all about the same, with the Mini a bit worse than the others. It had scope mount problems, though, so I need to re-do the tests.

As soon as I get my varminter Fab 10 built up (where's that durn kit?!?), I'll run them through the rounds some more.

Maybe we can have a shootout down at Sunnyvale Rod and Gun - everybody bring their favorite carbines and we can trade off.

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I can probably round up a Mini 14, SKS and my own FAB-10 (carbine upper) for the side-by-side comparo at the Sunnyvale Rod & Gun. I prefer Los Altos Rod & Gun personally but the Sunnyvale one is closer.

Anyone here with an SU-16, or M1 Carbine who'd like to play too?
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If Kel-Tec can make a SU-16 with a 18" or 20" barrel with muzzle brake, I'll take several!

Just put any optic on the picatinny/weaver rail and you are ready for tactical division for USPSA 3-gun!

Too bad it still won't be anything close to this rifle:
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Old 02-15-2005, 12:49 PM
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There are some videos up from the SU16C test, including a mild torture test - fire some rounds, break the ice with the stock and throw it in a frozen puddle, then shake it out and put another mag full through it.

http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeonrw7/id3.html

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