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Old 07-28-2009, 1:36 PM
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Default UCI summer math instructor gets swatteamed at school-subsidized apartment (VIDEO)

The dude lives in grad housing in VDC, a few hundred feet from where I live (regular Vista Del Campo). Obviously there's a gun ban on campus, best you can do is keep a knife in the apartment. I think he's a TA teaching summer session.



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Your link doesn't work. Anyways, why does that cop has a suppressor on his
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fixed for the OP.
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Your link doesn't work. Anyways, why does that cop has a suppressor on his
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UCIPD has suppressors on all their AR's. Its to protect the officers ears.
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Old 07-28-2009, 1:57 PM
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didn't someone from our school get arrested last month for wearing camo gears on campus?

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Nice, call the police on yourself after getting in a fracas with what sounds like building maintenance?

He is obviously being enslaved!
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You don't say bomb on a airplane and you don't say you're gonna go get a gun on a state university.

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didn't someone from our school get arrested last month for wearing camo gears on campus?
Nope, A guy was off campus walking to a buddies apartment because they were going airsofting. He thought it would be a bright idea to carry openly a airsoft rifle.

The campus was searched but he never even set foot on it.
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UCIPD has suppressors on all their AR's. Its to protect the officers ears.
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the guy who posted the video(the one getting arrested) posted a comment on youtube about it.

"No...I had 2 guys in my home telling me they were changing the locks...i asked them several times to leave and get some paperwork...then I asked them if I needed a firearm to get them to leave, and they called the police. "

Man i would not like being one of those cops, especially with that guys voice.
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Sounds like he brought this all on himself....call it "verbal brandishing" or whatever, but making any kind of reference to a firearm on a school campus is asking for b-i-g attention from campus LEO's.

Think VT tragedy and the current political environment....

I think the UCI police did a decent job of remaining calm and taking care of business in this situation.
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yeah i don't think the guy was very smart, making empty threats like that.
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Like how the officer was smirking when he offered them the constitution.
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and yet there he is in his own video saying that he did make the call.

He also comments that some cop stepped on the copy of the constitution he tried to give him?

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the guy who posted the video(the one getting arrested) posted a comment on youtube about it.

"No...I had 2 guys in my home telling me they were changing the locks...i asked them several times to leave and get some paperwork...then I asked them if I needed a firearm to get them to leave, and they called the police. "

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I wasn't joking.....A few years ago there was an incident in an Albertsons in Irvine where an officer fired an AR indoors and damaged his hearing. After medical bills and leave time the departments have figured out that Suppressor are way more cost effective.

Many departments are going this way.
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Hm, what was the shooting in response to?
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I wasn't joking.....A few years ago there was an incident in an Albertsons in Irvine where an officer fired an AR indoors and damaged his hearing. After medical bills and leave time the departments have figured out that Suppressor are way more cost effective.

Many departments are going this way.
Oh I think it's more than likely true. I'm laughing because you and I would never get away with that excuse to own one...
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Nope, A guy was off campus walking to a buddies apartment because they were going airsofting. He thought it would be a bright idea to carry openly a airsoft rifle.

The campus was searched but he never even set foot on it.
he was dragged out of the student center though, and was he carrying it inside a case or...?

and open carry = legal?
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hey jeff, what year are you?
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hey jeff, what year are you?
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I wasn't joking.....A few years ago there was an incident in an Albertsons in Irvine where an officer fired an AR indoors and damaged his hearing. After medical bills and leave time the departments have figured out that Suppressor are way more cost effective.

Many departments are going this way.
Orly? You mean suppressors aren't the evil tools of assassins we were led to believe by our friendly fud government? You mean they're actually safety devices??? gtfo!!
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I have no sound on my laptop...what exactly is being said?
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cool, lucky you live off campus lol
so...how do you store...
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Your link doesn't work. Anyways, why does that cop has a suppressor on his
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its a fake can

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he was dragged out of the student center though, and was he carrying it inside a case or...?

and open carry = legal?
They detained a guy in camo while looking for the other guy. I normally have something camo on and had friends texting me to hide that day.

Thankfully I wasn't here that day.
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so...how do you store...
450 miles north, back home, safely secured. i take no risks.
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Dumb, dumb, dumb
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The campus housing ban on firearms should be challenged now that we have Nordyke and Heller. Clearly these bans are in violation of the Second Amendment.
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so like did the guy go to jail or what happened after
irvine is seems pretty rowdy haha
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well irvine is the safest urban city of its size in the USA. can't achieve that without a overwhelming police force that keeps the entire city locked down and arresting anyone that causes disturbances.
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The campus housing ban on firearms should be challenged now that we have Nordyke and Heller. Clearly these bans are in violation of the Second Amendment.
On what basis? The housing contract clearly states that there are no firearms allowed in dorms. He didn't have to sign it, he could have found a place outside of university's control.
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On what basis? The housing contract clearly states that there are no firearms allowed in dorms. He didn't have to sign it, he could have found a place outside of university's control.
Because both of those cases state that you have a right to a firearm for self defense in the home and both the UC and CSU systems are run by the state.
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Because both of those cases state that you have a right to a firearm for self defense in the home and both the UC and CSU systems are run by the state.
self-defense in the PRIVATE home. It doesn't say anything about university's housing, which is a state entity.

edit: In fact, IIRC, Nordyke decision affirmed incorporation of 2A, but also acknowledged that the county could decided to not hold the gun show.

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self-defense in the PRIVATE home. It doesn't say anything about university's housing, which is a state entity.

edit: In fact, IIRC, Nordyke decision affirmed incorporation of 2A, but also acknowledged that the county could decided to not hold the gun show.
Its your private home if you're paying the bills. Same thing when you're staying in a hotel, camping or living in an RV.
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No it's not. You are leasing/renting from college. College OWNS the place, they can set whatever restriction they want to put on. You also have hoice of NOT SIGNING the lease.
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Because both of those cases state that you have a right to a firearm for self defense in the home and both the UC and CSU systems are run by the state.
This is exactly the same thing as SF trying to ban guns in city owned oublic housing. They rolled over like a kicked dog after Nordyke. UCI uses our tax dollars to provide education to the masses, which is the best way to reduce crime.
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No it's not. You are leasing/renting from college. College OWNS the place, they can set whatever restriction they want to put on. You also have hoice of NOT SIGNING the lease.
See the post above. You should also look up the meaning of "shall not be infringed".
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Changing the locks might have been an eviction action.

Arguing the Constitutionality of an officer's actions or the law in those circumstances will get you nowhere.

By attending classes and living in the housing he accepts the terms and conditions. If the T & C's are no firearms, he's stuck until a court decision goes his way.
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This is exactly the same thing as SF trying to ban guns in city owned oublic housing. They rolled over like a kicked dog after Nordyke. UCI uses our tax dollars to provide education to the masses, which is the best way to reduce crime.
Not exactly - in the S.F case, the terms and conditions were being changed after the fact. The no-gun rule on campus and in campus housing has been around for at least 20 years iirc.
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