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Old 07-14-2009, 9:19 PM
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Default 1911 w/slide stuck closed, need advice

i need some advice from the experts on this one since this is my first 1911 and im totally stumped. I've got a brand new Springfield 1911 "loaded" w/less than 50 rounds through it.

currently the slide is stuck closed and it only moves about 1mm rearward. everything seemed fine when i came home from the range. i wanted to install a hogue grip so i racked the slide to make sure it was empty(which it was) before i started anything then dropped the slide with the slide release as normal and dry fired it. i then installed the grips and went to rack the slide again so i could make sure the thumb safety wasn't sticking but the slide wouldn't open. it looks like the thumb safety is sticking up a little and preventing the slide from moving past it.

anybody ever had this kind of problem? could there be something more seriously wrong with the gun? any advice on how to get this up and running again without sending it to Springfield would be great. thanks!
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Old 07-14-2009, 9:24 PM
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i then installed the grips and went to rack the slide again so i could make sure the thumb safety wasn't sticking but the slide wouldn't open. it looks like the thumb safety is sticking up a little and preventing the slide from moving past it.

Just curious, but have you tried removing the grips, and seeing if that solved the problem? It could be the grips are interfering with the safety.
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Old 07-14-2009, 9:25 PM
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First, check the safety.

If that wasn't it, you may not be using enough strength to pull the slide back. Those hammers put serious forward tension on the slide (it does on mine anyway - one of my female friends needs help racking the slide on a fallen hammer).

Pull the hammer back, then rack, or put more oompth into racking the slide.

That wasn't it? Might (though unlikely) be the slide release lever. Sometimes on my 1911 when I assemble it, the slide release goes in but the slide won't go back. I take out the slide release and reinsert it, making sure that little hole thing is in the proper, forward, position.

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Just curious, but have you tried removing the grips, and seeing if that solved the problem? It could be the grips are interfering with the safety.
Heh, Occam razor Could very well be the grips.
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Old 07-14-2009, 9:48 PM
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Heh, Occam razor Could very well be the grips.
Heh, maybe he can use Occam's Razor to trim the grip a little?
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Old 07-14-2009, 9:50 PM
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Just curious, but have you tried removing the grips, and seeing if that solved the problem? It could be the grips are interfering with the safety.
yep thats the first thing i did and no luck


Jason762: pulled the hammer back and pulled the slide with everything i could and nothing. ill have to check out the slide release see if there is something with that even though i never took it out.
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Old 07-14-2009, 9:54 PM
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Can you take out the recoil spring and plug?
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Old 07-14-2009, 9:56 PM
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Is there anything in the chamber?

Try pushing the barrel down while pulling the slide?
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Old 07-14-2009, 9:59 PM
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have you tried removing the slide?Another thing you can try is hold the slide with your left hand really hard,and hit the grip with the right as if you were gripping the gun.That is one trick that i learned when similar problem happened with my 1911.Safety in off position of course,hammer cocked.You want the slide to go back all the way.

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yep thats the first thing i did and no luck


Jason762: pulled the hammer back and pulled the slide with everything i could and nothing. ill have to check out the slide release see if there is something with that even though i never took it out.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:07 PM
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have you tried removing the slide?Another thing you can try is hold the slide with your left hand really hard,and hit the grip with the right as if you were gripping the gun.That is one trick that i learned when similar problem happened with my 1911.Safety in off position of course,hammer cocked.You want the slide to go back all the way.
AH HA!!!!!!! you my friend are the winner!!!

holding the slide and hitting the grip worked like a champ. after looking at it really closely the slide just barely drags on the safety and somehow it was up just enough to catch the slide. after i get a couple hundred rounds through it it should be fine.

thanks everybody for all the super quick responses. you guys are life savers.
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:10 PM
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glad it worked out for you
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:13 PM
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I'd be a little concerned that it's dragging enough to prevent racking the slide back. How likely is this going to prevent it from coming back upon firing?
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Old 07-14-2009, 10:33 PM
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i think it will be ok. ive worked the safety and slide a bunch and it seems to be working fine now. on just the very top most point of the safety you can see a tiny bit of the parkerizing start to wear off. maybe im wrong but im hoping it just need to get broken in.
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Do you have an ambidextrous safety?

Are your new Hogue grips cut for an ambidextrous safety?
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Old 07-15-2009, 8:19 AM
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Never heard of a Colt doing that.

If that gun is going to be anything more than a "plinker", get it checked out
by a Pistolsmith. Note I did not say Gunsmith.
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Old 07-15-2009, 8:54 AM
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I was going to advice the original OP not to drop the slide on an empty chamber, but I don't want to start another argument on this topic since it's been covered a couple of times already.
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Old 07-15-2009, 6:09 PM
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Do you have an ambidextrous safety?

Are your new Hogue grips cut for an ambidextrous safety?
I'd check this out, as I put some beautiful Esmerelda grips on my Wilson only to learn I couldn't manipulate the safety and envisioned sending it back to Wilson. I then looked and saw that the grips weren't cut for an ambi safety which kept the safety up.
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I was going to advice the original OP not to drop the slide on an empty chamber, but I don't want to start another argument on this topic since it's been covered a couple of times already.
That's what I was thinking too, but I guess we shouldn't get into that!
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The slide dragging on the safety is not good.
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Old 07-15-2009, 7:32 PM
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Do you have an ambidextrous safety?

Are your new Hogue grips cut for an ambidextrous safety?
yep ambi safety on it but i doubt that was the problem since there is a slight relief cut into the back of the grip just like the wood ones. also taking the grips off didnt solve the problem.

the safety appears to be sitting below the slide and its not rubbing anymore. the gap looks like its about 1/64" (thickness of 2 business cards). is that normal or too close?

this is definitely not going to be a carry weapon so im not worried about that aspect of it as much as im wondering if its worth sending off to springfield to give it the once over to make sure there isnt something more serious going on.
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