Calguns.net  

Home My iTrader Join the NRA Donate to CGSSA Sponsors CGN Google Search
CA Semiauto Ban(AW)ID Flowchart CA Handgun Ban ID Flowchart CA Shotgun Ban ID Flowchart
Go Back   Calguns.net > POLITICS, LITIGATION AND ACTIVISM > California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

California 2nd Amend. Political Discussion & Activism Discuss gun rights activism and 2A related political topics here. All advice given is NOT legal counsel.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:08 PM
hoffmang's Avatar
hoffmang hoffmang is offline
No, I am not a Moderator!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Peninsula, Bay Area
Posts: 18,489
iTrader: 14 / 100%
Default Anti-gun .org defunded

Many of us speculated that after Heller, anti-gun organizations would begin to lose funding. This is the first confirmed victim and it has folded up based on losing funding from probably the primary source of anti-gun funding - The Joyce Foundation.

Story here.
Quote:
Gun control group disbands after losing funding
Monday, July 6, 2009, 8:50 AM
By Pat Curtis

An Iowa group once active in lobbying for gun control has disbanded after losing a major grant. The November 1st coalition began after the November 1, 1991 shootings on the University of Iowa campus and was later renamed Iowans for the Prevention of Gun Violence.

U-I professor Rex Honey served on the board of directors and hopes to revive the group. "I will try in autumn to get some students involved at the University of Iowa, given that the campus was what started our organization in the first place," Honey said. "So, it's not that we don't think there's an issue any longer."

Honey says most recently the group has relied on volunteers to lobby the legislature. "There was a grant with the Joyce foundation for a period of close to a decade from the mid 90s well into this decade, and that funding did end," Honey said.

"That meant we could no longer hire staff, so everything was done on a volunteer basis." The organization recently helped stop a bill to loosen restrictions on county officials who issue gun permits.

Honey says the recent tragic death of Aplington Parkersburg football coach Ed Thomas shows the need for a comprehensive look at the relationship between mental illness and gun violence. The 1991 shootings on the U-I campus left six people dead, including the gunman who shot himself.
Now that the anti-gunners can only make gun ownership annoying, I personally expect funding to get smaller and smaller...

-Gene
__________________
Gene Hoffman
Chairman, The Calguns Foundation

DONATE NOW
to support the rights of California gun owners. Follow @CalgunsFdn on Twitter.
Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization.
I read PMs. But, if you need a response, include an email address or email me directly!


"The problem with being a gun rights supporter is that the left hates guns and the right hates rights." -Anon
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:09 PM
professorhard professorhard is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: East Bay/San Diego
Posts: 2,335
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Default

Nice!
__________________
God, grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change;
The courage to change the things I can;
And the wisdom to know the difference.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:14 PM
BroncoBob's Avatar
BroncoBob BroncoBob is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Tracy, CA
Posts: 6,004
iTrader: 15 / 100%
Default

Just sad
__________________

NRA MEMBER

Originally Posted by ar15barrels
Unscrew the lid. There is a foil seal there.
Pull the seal off and screw the lid back on.
Then you can squeeze the mustard and it will come out of the bottle..

Liberals are termites eating at the foundation of our constitution.
Michael Reagan
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:17 PM
69Mach1's Avatar
69Mach1 69Mach1 is offline
Super Moderator
CGN Contributor - Lifetime
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Los Angeles County
Posts: 14,969
iTrader: 403 / 100%
Default

Ba- By
__________________
HIT Armory
40 no. Central Ave.
Upland CA 91786
07 FFL
Law enforcement sales.

909 985-0600


69Mach1
munkeeboi
TURBOELKY
antix2
WTSGDYBBR
tujungatoes
jmpgnr24K
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:19 PM
sorensen440's Avatar
sorensen440 sorensen440 is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Sonoma
Posts: 8,605
iTrader: 18 / 100%
Default

Awww those poor poor misguided souls....


I hope they all die this type of death
__________________
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:22 PM
jdberger's Avatar
jdberger jdberger is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,952
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Default

It'd be nice to see all the FSA umbrella organizations hit like this too. (State) Council Against Handgun Violence, etc.

I only hope that Joyce invested a bunch of cash with Madoff.
__________________
Rest in Peace - Andrew Breitbart. A true student of Alinsky.

90% of winning is simply showing up.

"Let's not lose sight of how much we reduced our carbon footprint by telecommuting this protest." 383green


NRA Benefactor Member
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:22 PM
bodger's Avatar
bodger bodger is offline
Calguns Addict
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SoCal
Posts: 6,060
iTrader: 10 / 100%
Default

Now what will they do? Maybe become anti-illegal alien.
I'd donate to that cause.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:24 PM
technique's Avatar
technique technique is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Idaho- don't come here.
Posts: 10,631
iTrader: 77 / 100%
Default

LMFAO........
__________________
07/02 Out of State FFL

California Uber Alles, California Uber Alles
Uber Alles California, Uber Alles California

I am Governor Jerry Brown, My aura smiles and never frowns, Soon I will be President...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:25 PM
hoffmang's Avatar
hoffmang hoffmang is offline
No, I am not a Moderator!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Peninsula, Bay Area
Posts: 18,489
iTrader: 14 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdberger View Post
I only hope that Joyce invested a bunch of cash with Madoff.
Don't tease me like that!

-Gene
__________________
Gene Hoffman
Chairman, The Calguns Foundation

DONATE NOW
to support the rights of California gun owners. Follow @CalgunsFdn on Twitter.
Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization.
I read PMs. But, if you need a response, include an email address or email me directly!


"The problem with being a gun rights supporter is that the left hates guns and the right hates rights." -Anon
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:31 PM
8 pack's Avatar
8 pack 8 pack is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 29
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default



Did anybody else crack up at this?
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:38 PM
Werewolf1021's Avatar
Werewolf1021 Werewolf1021 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: San Andreas, CA
Posts: 1,739
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 8 pack View Post


Did anybody else crack up at this?
That sign almost makes me want to break into that house... just kidding. Or am I?
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:44 PM
Monte's Avatar
Monte Monte is offline
Member
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 427
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Default

Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-07-2009, 9:47 PM
N6ATF N6ATF is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: East San Diego County, CA
Posts: 8,389
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodger View Post
Now what will they do? Maybe become anti-illegal alien.
I'd donate to that cause.
Doubtful. Pro-illegal-alien, pro-victim-disarmament go hand in hand. Criminal safety above all else!

Quote:
Originally Posted by 8 pack View Post


Did anybody else crack up at this?
Is that symbol in the middle supposed to represent a bullet hole like those decals people stick on their cars?
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-07-2009, 10:18 PM
FastFinger's Avatar
FastFinger FastFinger is offline
In Memoriam
CGN Contributor - Lifetime
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Deep behind enemy lines... Southern California
Posts: 3,025
iTrader: 16 / 100%
Default

Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-07-2009, 10:29 PM
tombinghamthegreat's Avatar
tombinghamthegreat tombinghamthegreat is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 2,786
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 8 pack View Post


Did anybody else crack up at this?
I find it hard to believe they take themselves serious. Not to bash cops but i from my experience they are very unreliable in an emergency event.
__________________
"Legitimate use of violence can only be that which is required in self-defense." Ron Paul
"The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite." - Thomas Jefferson
Quote:
Originally Posted by forumguy View Post
The same way they enforce all the rest of the BS laws. Only criminals are exempt, while the honest obey.
Quote:
Originally Posted by bwiese View Post
Sometimes I think the function of Calguns is half to refute bad info from gunshops and half to refute bad info from DOJ.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-07-2009, 10:33 PM
jdberger's Avatar
jdberger jdberger is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 8,952
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Default

Not to provide them any cover - but the sign is meant for those neighborhoods where folks don't usually call police - or if they do, they don't talk to them when they get there.

You know- the Kitty Genovese kind of neighborhoods.
__________________
Rest in Peace - Andrew Breitbart. A true student of Alinsky.

90% of winning is simply showing up.

"Let's not lose sight of how much we reduced our carbon footprint by telecommuting this protest." 383green


NRA Benefactor Member
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-07-2009, 10:35 PM
Keith92555 Keith92555 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 47
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

"Iowans for the Prevention of Gun Violence"??? Aren't we all involved in this cause...by taking steps to prevent ourselves from becoming the victims of gun violence? What kind of mindset could possibly believe that stricter gun laws would prevent gun violence??? Do DUI laws prevent DUIs? Do speed limits stop speeders? Do no trespassing signs stop people from trespassing? If that were the case, all you would have to do is post a sign on your house saying "no burglaries allowed" and your home would be safe. Post a sign on the front of your business stating, "no robberies permitted."

We should revive this organization, "Iowans for the Prevention of Gun Violence," with the purpose of arming and training all red-blooded Americans to defend themselves from gunviolence.

Do you think we could recruit Mr. Honey to chair this new organization?
__________________
You never really need a gun until you REALLY need a gun...W.E.B. Griffin

When I carry a gun, I dont do so because I am looking for a fight, but because Im looking to be left alone...Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-07-2009, 10:35 PM
mosinnagantm9130's Avatar
mosinnagantm9130 mosinnagantm9130 is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Places
Posts: 8,650
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

LOL!
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodEyeSniper View Post
My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChopperX View Post
I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff L View Post
Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-07-2009, 11:12 PM
hamster's Avatar
hamster hamster is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: san diego
Posts: 458
iTrader: 10 / 100%
Default

Is it me, or does it seem like the tide is turning?
__________________
Nothing is as perfect as you can imagine it.
Hamster's AR-15
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-07-2009, 11:27 PM
lioneaglegriffin's Avatar
lioneaglegriffin lioneaglegriffin is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 3,895
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hamster View Post
Is it me, or does it seem like the tide is turning?
surfs up!
__________________
Quote:
If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking. Patton
Quote:
"Si vis pacem, para bellum" ("If you want peace, prepare for war") Flavius V. Renatus
Quote:
"There are five boxes to use in the defense of Liberty: The Soap Box, the Mail Box, the Ballot Box, the Jury Box, and the Ammunition Box. Please use them in that order."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackwater OPS View Post
Blackwater OPS on Botach Tactical: Holy crap man DON'T DO IT!!! Those guys have ****ed me so hard I should be demanding an engagement ring.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 07-07-2009, 11:32 PM
Dr. Peter Venkman's Avatar
Dr. Peter Venkman Dr. Peter Venkman is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Where the Wild Things Are
Posts: 4,210
iTrader: 18 / 100%
Default

Hit 'em where it hurts!
__________________

"America is not at war. The Marine Corps is at war; America is at the mall."
Quote:
Originally Posted by berto View Post
You're right. There's no possible way that CGN members marching alongside the Pink Pistols in the SF Pride Parade can do anything to dispel the stereotype that gun owners are conservative bigots clinging to their guns and bibles. Not a single person in the crowd is rational or reachable because the parade's for gay folks and it's in SF.
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 07-07-2009, 11:44 PM
capntroy's Avatar
capntroy capntroy is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Orange County
Posts: 337
iTrader: 32 / 100%
Default

Don't let the door hit you in your gun-grabbing a*s......
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 07-07-2009, 11:57 PM
ivanimal's Avatar
ivanimal ivanimal is offline
Janitors assistant
CGN Contributor - Lifetime
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: East Bay
Posts: 13,829
iTrader: 177 / 100%
Blog Entries: 2
Default

Gene, this news makes me happy.
__________________
"I would kill for a Nobel peace prize." Steven Wright"
Board Member CGSSA Donate now!
NRA LIFE MEMBER
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 07-08-2009, 12:31 AM
7x57's Avatar
7x57 7x57 is offline
Calguns Addict
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Pasadena
Posts: 5,161
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoffmang View Post
Many of us speculated that after Heller, anti-gun organizations would begin to lose funding. This is the first confirmed victim
Federal bailout?

7x57
__________________


What do you need guns for if you are going to send your children, seven hours a day, 180 days a year to government schools? What do you need the guns for at that point?-- R. C. Sproul, Jr. (unconfirmed)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bulgron View Post
I know every chance I get I'm going to accuse 7x57 of being a shill for LCAV. Because I can.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 07-08-2009, 12:51 AM
nick nick is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 18,363
iTrader: 145 / 100%
Default

I hope to see a pattern of this before concluding that the funding is drying up. It could be that this specific organization was deemed a poor return on investment.
__________________
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson
"Thou shalt not interfere with the Second Amendment rights of "law-abiding" citizens who want AK-47s only to protect hearth and home." - Paul Helmke finally gets it :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by SJgunguy24 View Post
Some people are so open minded, their brains have fallen out.


Selling a bunch of C&R and other rifles here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1319997
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 07-08-2009, 4:07 AM
cousinkix1953 cousinkix1953 is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 1,388
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by bodger View Post
Now what will they do? Maybe become anti-illegal alien.
I'd donate to that cause.
Hell no! When is last time that you heard anti-gun liberal groups complaining about our gang infested sanctuary cities? Criminal coddling politicians refuse to call ICE and let them enforce a federal law which prohibits illegal aliens from owning guns. They are supported by the Brady Bunch too. Two of these San Francisco losers are running for statewide office in 2010...
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 07-08-2009, 6:25 AM
Aegis's Avatar
Aegis Aegis is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 1,801
iTrader: 3 / 100%
Default



Nice.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 07-08-2009, 6:32 AM
Untamed1972 Untamed1972 is offline
I need a LIFE!!
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 17,526
iTrader: 2 / 100%
Default

"Honey says most recently the group has relied on volunteers to lobby the legislature. "There was a grant with the Joyce foundation for a period of close to a decade from the mid 90s well into this decade, and that funding did end," Honey said.

"That meant we could no longer hire staff, so everything was done on a volunteer basis."


Hmmm......I guess the Anti's are only Anti if they're getting paid huh? Guess it's not important enough to them to volunteer their time or their own money for aye?
__________________
"Freedom begins with an act of defiance"

Quote for the day:
Quote:
"..the mind is the weapon and the hand only its extention. Discipline your mind!" Master Hao, Chenrezi monastery, Valley of the Sun
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 07-08-2009, 6:49 AM
yellowfin's Avatar
yellowfin yellowfin is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 8,373
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jdberger View Post
It'd be nice to see all the FSA umbrella organizations hit like this too. (State) Council Against Handgun Violence, etc.

I only hope that Joyce invested a bunch of cash with Madoff.
Better still, we should sue them for all they have left and put it in our pockets to fight them with.
__________________
"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
Quote:
Originally Posted by indiandave View Post
In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 07-08-2009, 6:51 AM
yellowfin's Avatar
yellowfin yellowfin is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 8,373
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hamster View Post
Is it me, or does it seem like the tide is turning?
I'll be happy when they're about 1000' under the water and crusted over in barnacles--water over their toes isn't good enough for me. Dead snakes still bite.
__________________
"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
Quote:
Originally Posted by indiandave View Post
In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 07-08-2009, 6:51 AM
Scarecrow Repair's Avatar
Scarecrow Repair Scarecrow Repair is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Internet Tough Guy(tm), them thar hills
Posts: 2,426
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default Is this normal or abnormal?

What has been the norm before Heller? Organizations start up and fall over all the time; is there some normal rate, say 1 anti-gun org does every year anyway? Is this the first anti-gun org to die in a decade or two, or is it just the usual case of a somewhat small group whose leaders may have retired or moved?
__________________
Mention the Deacons for Defense and Justice and make both left and right wingnuts squirm
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 07-08-2009, 8:55 AM
Turbinator's Avatar
Turbinator Turbinator is offline
Super Moderator
CGN Contributor - Lifetime
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 11,261
iTrader: 8 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Iowans for the Prevention of Gun Violence
You know, there's nothing wrong with being against unwarranted gun violence. It's when people start focusing on being anti-GUN, as if the GUN itself were the problem, that's where I have an issue.

Heck, we could be Gun Owners Against Gun Violence. That would be legit.

Turby
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 07-08-2009, 9:09 AM
spyderco monkey's Avatar
spyderco monkey spyderco monkey is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Santa Barbara,CA
Posts: 171
iTrader: 5 / 100%
Default

That would be a great name for a CCW advocacy program
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 07-08-2009, 10:25 AM
dwtt dwtt is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 7,462
iTrader: 7 / 100%
Default

Where's George Soros when they need him?
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 07-08-2009, 5:11 PM
F-2_Challenger F-2_Challenger is offline
CGN/CGSSA Contributor
CGN Contributor
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Bay Area
Posts: 1,082
iTrader: 4 / 100%
Default

what is the likely hood that the Brady idiots will run out of money?
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 07-08-2009, 5:31 PM
stuckinhippytown stuckinhippytown is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Chico
Posts: 122
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Keep taking em to court and that should happen quickly i presume
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 07-08-2009, 6:15 PM
yellowfin's Avatar
yellowfin yellowfin is offline
Calguns Addict
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 8,373
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by F-2_Challenger View Post
what is the likely hood that the Brady idiots will run out of money?
When we start claiming damages against them for libel, slander, and fraud, and prosecute for complicity in public corruption, tax status violations (and thus tax fraud and evasion), and a few other juicy and nasty charges. Which should have been done long ago, but what we're waiting for I haven't the foggiest...this nicey nicey with them instead of going for their heads is more than a little bit annoying.
__________________
"You can't stop insane people from doing insane things with insane laws. That's insane!" -- Penn Jillette
Quote:
Originally Posted by indiandave View Post
In Pennsylvania Your permit to carry concealed is called a License to carry fire arms. Other states call it a CCW. In New Jersey it's called a crime.
Discretionary Issue is the new Separate but Equal.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 07-08-2009, 6:16 PM
1859sharps 1859sharps is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,822
iTrader: 1 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hamster View Post
Is it me, or does it seem like the tide is turning?
Not to be a kill joy, but I personally feel that there is still too much work to be done before we can really say tide is turning. It might be more accurate to say pendulum is swinging our way a bit more every day. That alone is absolutely amazing.
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 07-08-2009, 8:57 PM
lioneaglegriffin's Avatar
lioneaglegriffin lioneaglegriffin is offline
Veteran Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: LA
Posts: 3,895
iTrader: 0 / 0%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowfin View Post
When we start claiming damages against them for libel, slander, and fraud, and prosecute for complicity in public corruption, tax status violations (and thus tax fraud and evasion), and a few other juicy and nasty charges. Which should have been done long ago, but what we're waiting for I haven't the foggiest...this nicey nicey with them instead of going for their heads is more than a little bit annoying.
recently seeing the movie Public Enemies see me reminds me of the part of the movie were Hoover tells his G-Man to " as they say in Italy, take off the white gloves!"
__________________
Quote:
If everybody is thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking. Patton
Quote:
"Si vis pacem, para bellum" ("If you want peace, prepare for war") Flavius V. Renatus
Quote:
"There are five boxes to use in the defense of Liberty: The Soap Box, the Mail Box, the Ballot Box, the Jury Box, and the Ammunition Box. Please use them in that order."
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackwater OPS View Post
Blackwater OPS on Botach Tactical: Holy crap man DON'T DO IT!!! Those guys have ****ed me so hard I should be demanding an engagement ring.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 07-08-2009, 9:08 PM
hoffmang's Avatar
hoffmang hoffmang is offline
No, I am not a Moderator!
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Peninsula, Bay Area
Posts: 18,489
iTrader: 14 / 100%
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarecrow Repair View Post
Is this the first anti-gun org to die in a decade or two, or is it just the usual case of a somewhat small group whose leaders may have retired or moved?
The key news is that Joyce pulled it's funding. I expect Joyce to keep scaling back but this is the first public example of that.

-Gene
__________________
Gene Hoffman
Chairman, The Calguns Foundation

DONATE NOW
to support the rights of California gun owners. Follow @CalgunsFdn on Twitter.
Opinions posted in this account are my own and not the approved position of any organization.
I read PMs. But, if you need a response, include an email address or email me directly!


"The problem with being a gun rights supporter is that the left hates guns and the right hates rights." -Anon
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 3:01 AM.




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Proudly hosted by GeoVario the Premier 2A host.
Calguns.net, the 'Calguns' name and all associated variants and logos are ® Trademark and © Copyright 2002-2016, Calguns.net an Incorporated Company All Rights Reserved.