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Many of us speculated that after Heller, anti-gun organizations would begin to lose funding. This is the first confirmed victim and it has folded up based on losing funding from probably the primary source of anti-gun funding - The Joyce Foundation.

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An Iowa group once active in lobbying for gun control has disbanded after losing a major grant. The November 1st coalition began after the November 1, 1991 shootings on the University of Iowa campus and was later renamed Iowans for the Prevention of Gun Violence.

U-I professor Rex Honey served on the board of directors and hopes to revive the group. "I will try in autumn to get some students involved at the University of Iowa, given that the campus was what started our organization in the first place," Honey said. "So, it's not that we don't think there's an issue any longer."

Honey says most recently the group has relied on volunteers to lobby the legislature. "There was a grant with the Joyce foundation for a period of close to a decade from the mid 90s well into this decade, and that funding did end," Honey said.

"That meant we could no longer hire staff, so everything was done on a volunteer basis." The organization recently helped stop a bill to loosen restrictions on county officials who issue gun permits.

Honey says the recent tragic death of Aplington Parkersburg football coach Ed Thomas shows the need for a comprehensive look at the relationship between mental illness and gun violence. The 1991 shootings on the U-I campus left six people dead, including the gunman who shot himself.
Now that the anti-gunners can only make gun ownership annoying, I personally expect funding to get smaller and smaller...

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Awww those poor poor misguided souls....


I hope they all die this type of death
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It'd be nice to see all the FSA umbrella organizations hit like this too. (State) Council Against Handgun Violence, etc.

I only hope that Joyce invested a bunch of cash with Madoff.
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Now what will they do? Maybe become anti-illegal alien.
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Did anybody else crack up at this?
That sign almost makes me want to break into that house... just kidding. Or am I?
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Now what will they do? Maybe become anti-illegal alien.
I'd donate to that cause.
Doubtful. Pro-illegal-alien, pro-victim-disarmament go hand in hand. Criminal safety above all else!

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Did anybody else crack up at this?
Is that symbol in the middle supposed to represent a bullet hole like those decals people stick on their cars?
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Did anybody else crack up at this?
I find it hard to believe they take themselves serious. Not to bash cops but i from my experience they are very unreliable in an emergency event.
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Not to provide them any cover - but the sign is meant for those neighborhoods where folks don't usually call police - or if they do, they don't talk to them when they get there.

You know- the Kitty Genovese kind of neighborhoods.
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"Iowans for the Prevention of Gun Violence"??? Aren't we all involved in this cause...by taking steps to prevent ourselves from becoming the victims of gun violence? What kind of mindset could possibly believe that stricter gun laws would prevent gun violence??? Do DUI laws prevent DUIs? Do speed limits stop speeders? Do no trespassing signs stop people from trespassing? If that were the case, all you would have to do is post a sign on your house saying "no burglaries allowed" and your home would be safe. Post a sign on the front of your business stating, "no robberies permitted."

We should revive this organization, "Iowans for the Prevention of Gun Violence," with the purpose of arming and training all red-blooded Americans to defend themselves from gunviolence.

Do you think we could recruit Mr. Honey to chair this new organization?
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Many of us speculated that after Heller, anti-gun organizations would begin to lose funding. This is the first confirmed victim
Federal bailout?

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I hope to see a pattern of this before concluding that the funding is drying up. It could be that this specific organization was deemed a poor return on investment.
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Now what will they do? Maybe become anti-illegal alien.
I'd donate to that cause.
Hell no! When is last time that you heard anti-gun liberal groups complaining about our gang infested sanctuary cities? Criminal coddling politicians refuse to call ICE and let them enforce a federal law which prohibits illegal aliens from owning guns. They are supported by the Brady Bunch too. Two of these San Francisco losers are running for statewide office in 2010...
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"Honey says most recently the group has relied on volunteers to lobby the legislature. "There was a grant with the Joyce foundation for a period of close to a decade from the mid 90s well into this decade, and that funding did end," Honey said.

"That meant we could no longer hire staff, so everything was done on a volunteer basis."


Hmmm......I guess the Anti's are only Anti if they're getting paid huh? Guess it's not important enough to them to volunteer their time or their own money for aye?
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It'd be nice to see all the FSA umbrella organizations hit like this too. (State) Council Against Handgun Violence, etc.

I only hope that Joyce invested a bunch of cash with Madoff.
Better still, we should sue them for all they have left and put it in our pockets to fight them with.
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Is it me, or does it seem like the tide is turning?
I'll be happy when they're about 1000' under the water and crusted over in barnacles--water over their toes isn't good enough for me. Dead snakes still bite.
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What has been the norm before Heller? Organizations start up and fall over all the time; is there some normal rate, say 1 anti-gun org does every year anyway? Is this the first anti-gun org to die in a decade or two, or is it just the usual case of a somewhat small group whose leaders may have retired or moved?
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You know, there's nothing wrong with being against unwarranted gun violence. It's when people start focusing on being anti-GUN, as if the GUN itself were the problem, that's where I have an issue.

Heck, we could be Gun Owners Against Gun Violence. That would be legit.

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what is the likely hood that the Brady idiots will run out of money?
When we start claiming damages against them for libel, slander, and fraud, and prosecute for complicity in public corruption, tax status violations (and thus tax fraud and evasion), and a few other juicy and nasty charges. Which should have been done long ago, but what we're waiting for I haven't the foggiest...this nicey nicey with them instead of going for their heads is more than a little bit annoying.
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Is it me, or does it seem like the tide is turning?
Not to be a kill joy, but I personally feel that there is still too much work to be done before we can really say tide is turning. It might be more accurate to say pendulum is swinging our way a bit more every day. That alone is absolutely amazing.
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When we start claiming damages against them for libel, slander, and fraud, and prosecute for complicity in public corruption, tax status violations (and thus tax fraud and evasion), and a few other juicy and nasty charges. Which should have been done long ago, but what we're waiting for I haven't the foggiest...this nicey nicey with them instead of going for their heads is more than a little bit annoying.
recently seeing the movie Public Enemies see me reminds me of the part of the movie were Hoover tells his G-Man to " as they say in Italy, take off the white gloves!"
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Is this the first anti-gun org to die in a decade or two, or is it just the usual case of a somewhat small group whose leaders may have retired or moved?
The key news is that Joyce pulled it's funding. I expect Joyce to keep scaling back but this is the first public example of that.

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