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Old 06-08-2005, 7:10 PM
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Two mods to date, a Vang Large Headed Safety and a Speedfeed IV-s stock. Awaiting the fab of a Picatinny rail to mount an Aimpoint. Still haven’t shot; decided to wait until the mods are completed.
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Old 06-08-2005, 7:21 PM
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Remington needs to hurry up and make the 11-87 version already.

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Old 06-08-2005, 7:42 PM
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Yes, I would like to see one. Anyone think it would make a good competitor with the SU16 series of rifles?
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Old 06-09-2005, 8:58 AM
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Personally, I think so. I'd like to see a semi-auto version on the market.

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Old 06-09-2005, 10:21 AM
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I too would like to see a semiauto version of this rifle as well - say, a "7415" that similarly takes AR mags. [A Remington 7400 rifle does exist, dunno if it's chambered in 223 though.]

The goal of the 7615 was to have a rifle that operated just about like an 870 shotgun, so that training costs, supplies, etc. for PDs converting from shotgun to patrol rifle would be minimized. (These costs are probably higher than the cost of the rifles themselves.]

I just handled a 7615 again, and they're pretty nice for balance, handling, etc. I'd much rather have one of these than a FAB10 CA-legal AR.

Also, it seems these rifles are pretty accurate- in the AR league, much better than Mini14s.

I'm sorely tempted to get one, but I have 6 ARs already.

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Old 06-09-2005, 1:29 PM
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A "7415" would be a VERY welcome choice as long as it isn't as picky as the 7400 as to ammo and doesn't require the first round manual chambering. Does anyone know is they've mentioned an intent to make one?

Does your 7615 require a first round manual chambering and how much was it, Did they supply it with the 10 round, 20 round mag look-a-like or is that a real 20 rounder?
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Old 06-09-2005, 1:35 PM
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I would like to a see a rifle in 308 that took M1/M14 mags in the poor mans $600-$700 range. The M1A is really our only mag feed semiauto 308 and the price tag is to high for most. 223 is a nice round but can't really be used for hunting anything larger then a coyote. A 308 semi for hogs would be nice.
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Old 06-09-2005, 1:48 PM
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223 is a nice round but can't really be used for hunting anything larger then a coyote. A 308 semi for hogs would be nice.
Bu-buy, I think you should get that .50 BMG for hogs, then you wouldn't even have to pay the butcher to cut it up.
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Old 06-09-2005, 4:54 PM
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Hey Bu-bye, get the 6.5 Grendel upper by Alexander Arms for your AR, better performance than 5.56 NATO, 6.8 SPC and supposedly even 7.62 NATO!

http://www.alexanderarms.com/website/id10.html

Or there's the Remington 7400 in .308... plan on cleaning alot and don't use 7.62 NATO.

http://www.remington.com/firearms/ce...re/7400syn.htm

10 round mags are available.
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Hey Bu-bye, get the 6.5 Grendel upper by Alexander Arms for your AR, better performance than 5.56 NATO, 6.8 SPC and supposedly even 7.62 NATO!
+1. I am getting one if it ever gets here (I've been waiting over two months now). Alexander Arms are backordered; it has become a very popular hunting rifle and round. There will be two more manufacturers producing ammo, including Wolf (it will be a brass rather than steel case) which should bring the price down to about $7 per box. And it is supposed to go subsonic to 1000+ yards.
The other round, which I already suggested to Bu-bye, which would be great for hogs is the .50 Beowulf, which will put just about anything down to about 200-300 yards with a relatively flat trajectory, after that it goes down like a bowling ball. I am getting one of them, too (if it ever gets here).
I feel like a kid again waiting for Christmas!
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Old 06-09-2005, 7:40 PM
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The ONLY thing that would make me consider getting a FAB-10 is the 6.5 Grendel upper.

I fail to understand how the 6.8 SPC came out as the favorite at the Picatinny Arsenal tests, I wonder if they were looking at the same data I was... oh yeah almost forgot... 6.8 "REMINGTON" SPC... hmmm, politics much.

BTW: That's great news about the other ammo manufacturers jumping on-board... that was the one downside, ammo cost/availability. I wonder if anyone else has plans for a decent bolt action in it, that I'd like to see.
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Old 06-09-2005, 9:25 PM
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The ONLY thing that would make me consider getting a FAB-10 is the 6.5 Grendel upper.

I fail to understand how the 6.8 SPC came out as the favorite at the Picatinny Arsenal tests, I wonder if they were looking at the same data I was... oh yeah almost forgot... 6.8 "REMINGTON" SPC... hmmm, politics much.
From what I've read the 6.8 SPC is superior to 5.56 to about 300-500 hundred yards, which I am told the Armed Forces were after. Then again it could be hype. One thing for sure, unless you re-load you cannot buy ammo.
If you are interested in 6.5 Grendel, whether AR or bolt action, visit the Grendel website for more info. There are now a several barrel makers for bolt action rifles.
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Old 06-09-2005, 9:41 PM
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Or there's the Remington 7400 in .308... plan on cleaning alot and don't use 7.62 NATO.
Tne nato is loaded to a lower pressure than sammi .308. I believe finished cardtidge dimensions are the same. Why the warning??

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And it is supposed to go subsonic to 1000+ yards.
I think you mean supersonic past a thousand, right?

Somebody on THR mentioned having a Daly mini-Mauser rebarreled in 6.5 Grendel. I think that would be pretty cool.
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Yeah I have looked at the 6.8 and I really like it. If the military start using it i'll convert. I want to conver my FAB-10 to a hunting rifle. A buddy and myself are planing to get matching Ultramag 50's before the end of the year. Getting the money is the easy part. Convincing my wife its a good idea to buy a $1800 upper, $700 scope, $400 for reload equipment is the hard part. My only defence is "But honey, its being banned. I don't want to miss out like I did the AR-15 and AK". Unless I buy a dimond ring of equal value I think I'm in line for WW3 in my home. Puppy dog eyes won't work this time.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Stevil:
Or there's the Remington 7400 in .308... plan on cleaning alot and don't use 7.62 NATO.
Tne nato is loaded to a lower pressure than sammi .308. I believe finished cardtidge dimensions are the same. Why the warning??

-hanko </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The 7400 doesn't like the lower pressure 7.62 NATO, it results in too many errors cycling, extraction, ejection, feeding etc., but it LOVES the higher powered .308. If you plan (like me) on getting a 7400 to use cheap mil-surp 7.62 NATO... well don't.
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I think you mean supersonic past a thousand, right?
I really ought to re-read my post before posting. Yes, that is what I meant.
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Yeah I have looked at the 6.8 and I
really like it. If the military start using it i'll convert. I want to conver my FAB-10 to a hunting rifle.
If you want a hunting rifle, I think the Grendel is better from ballistics, bullet selection and ammo manufacturers.
As far as the .50 BMG, don't tell your wife, buy it and I'll keep it for you in my house in very good shape by exercising it regularly and even taking Saturday or Sunday off every now and then to bring it to Laguna so you could shoot it.
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Yeah just not sure how I can hide something like that. I have always taken care of the bills and money in my house. Just last month I showed my wife how to do online banking. I can't get away with anything anymore LOL. She sees every dime.

I asked a few friends about 50's at LS and they all said its fine to shoot there. They all commented that shooting a 50bmg at 300 yards was pointless but I DON'T CARE! I want my big boom stick. I'll be shooting next Sat the 18th with my sister inlaw if you are around. My wife does not like to shoot but her sister LOVES it. Humm, I wonder if its to late to switch? JK
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Originally posted by Stevil: Does your 7615 require a first round manual chambering and how much was it, Did they supply it with the 10 round, 20 round mag look-a-like or is that a real 20 rounder?
The magazine is a 20 round capacity that’s been blocked to accept only 10 rounds. Remington’s web site states that they’ll offer more “pc looking” 10 round mag bodies in the future. Go figure.

Using snap caps (haven’t purchased live ammo yet), a loaded magazine can be inserted with the action opened or closed, and cycled to chamber the first round. No manual chambering is necessary.

Paid $749.00 in Sac. Had to wait 3 months for delivery.
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I just looked at one of these Remington patrol pump rifles in 223, how accurate are these??
Kind of interesting concept, just curious if it is accurate??
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Remington’s web site states that they’ll offer more “pc looking” 10 round mag bodies in the future. Go figure.
They're just channeling Bill Ruger's sentiments from beyond the grave, I figure -you know, keep the magazines nice and flush with the well so as not to scare the soccer moms & Nascar dads that might get the wrong idea.

Looks like your project is coming along nicely, MM.
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Has anyone found one of these in a gunshop,I would like to pick one up and see how it feels and the trigger.
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Paid $749.00 in Sac. Had to wait 3 months for delivery.
If you don't mind, where in Sac?
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Has anyone found one of these in a gunshop,I would like to pick one up and see how it feels and the trigger.
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Sharp Shooter indoor range in Torrance has a 223 for sale (not rent) that I looked at.
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How's the mods going?? What rail and Aimpoint mount did you end up using??

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I just looked at one of these Remington patrol pump rifles in 223, how accurate are these??
Kind of interesting concept, just curious if it is accurate??
Thanks,
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My 2 769's (.270 and .257) seem accurate enough, i.e., both better than I am. I get &lt;2" groups with iron sights. The .270 works (obviously) extremely well for deer, and the .257 is great for smaller deer & general pest elimination.

The 760 has been around for a long time & is a proven platform. I'd pop for a .308 in a minute.

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How's the mods going?? What rail and Aimpoint mount did you end up using??

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Still waiting for a Picatinny rail and ring from P.R.Inc. (http://www.pri-mounts.com/index2.htm). The ring is available and the rail is being finished (hopefully to ship soon). I believe they fab’d up a batch of 50 or so rails. Purchased an M3 for this project. I'll post pictures when completed.
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I'll post pictures when completed.
Please. I'll keep checking this topic for the pics. Thanks for the link - I'll see if I can get one of the rails as well.

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Please. I'll keep checking this topic for the pics. Thanks for the link - I'll see if I can get one of the rails as well.
Make sure to check with Dave Dunlap (ddunlap@pri-mounts.com) for rail details. In a nutshell I asked that the rail be cut so its leading edge ended a few mm before the front end of the receiver, and the trailing edge end a few mm in front of the leading edge of the ghost ring base; steel construction.
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Good news. Dave Dunlap of PRI (http://www.pri-mounts.com/index2.htm) sent me an email indicating that the rail shipped yesterday.
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