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Old 08-03-2017, 3:14 PM
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Default What is the attraction of large non-street legal buggies?

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Vs decent used 2x4 or 4x4 pickup? They are as big as a small truck.

See a bunch of these on large job sites were trucks etc were allowed and I'm just not seeing any advantage and lots of disadvantage.

Only answer I got was "they don't use as much fuel" but even on a huge jobsite its only a mile or so, and it ain't like buggies and trucks run all day.

Are they just cool and boys will have their toys, because it seems like a lot of money and even 'big money' stingy contractors don't normally blow money on toys for employees.
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Not what I thought you were talking about, job site rigs, but back in the day, before VW powered, then 3 wheeled, then quads, there were Sand Dune Hot Rods, Pismo & the Mojave mostly. SoCal hot rodders. They were every bit as custom as anything on the planet, big hemis bolted/welded together, one at each wheel, dualies front & rear. Mucho power and LOUD. Some could hold 6 or 8 folks in their own bucket seats, others were three tiered. Was a sight. Anyone else remember those monsters? PAX
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Old 08-04-2017, 3:19 AM
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Dunno about job sites, but on a ranchette in a rural setting, a Kubota sxs with a dump bed is a very handy tool to have. It's smaller, much lighter, a lot more maneuverable, and leaves almost no footprint. When streetable, they're also handy for quick trips to the corner grocery store or to the neighbor's house down the road.

For construction companies with large fleets of vehicles, it's probably easier to claim fuel tax credit (off highway business use) for such a vehicle than it is for a street-worthy truck.
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Dunno about job sites, but on a ranchette in a rural setting, a Kubota sxs with a dump bed is a very handy tool to have. It's smaller, much lighter, a lot more maneuverable, and leaves almost no footprint. When streetable, they're also handy for quick trips to the corner grocery store or to the neighbor's house down the road.

For construction companies with large fleets of vehicles, it's probably easier to claim fuel tax credit (off highway business use) for such a vehicle than it is for a street-worthy truck.
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What is the attraction of large non street legal buggies?
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Op, just try it you might like it.
It's probably one of those things till you try it you'll never know.
Then again I was raised around dune buggies/dirt bikes in Baja. around the Baja 1000 Etc.
But I guess if you're in a vehicle that has four tires and never touch the dirt you might never know.

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What is the attraction of large non street legal buggies?
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Op, just try it you might like it.
It's probably one of those things till you try it you'll never know.
Then again I was raised around dune buggies/dirt bikes in Baja. around the Baja 1000 Etc.
But I guess if you're in a vehicle that has four tires and never touch the dirt you might never know.

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Wait...what?

I think the OP is asking about the economics of these things as tools.....they are pretty expensive, no?

Are contractors really buying them to have fun on jobsites? Did they not learn anything in 2008?

When the recession hit, tons of contractors were put out of business. The ones hardest-hit were those guys who just had to have a lifted brodozer, a weekend toy hauler with all sorts of cool toys to haul around......all on a contractors wages LOL.

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Wait...what?

I think the OP is asking about the economics of these things as tools.....they are pretty expensive, no?

Are contractors really buying them to have fun on jobsites? Did they not learn anything in 2008?

When the recession hit, tons of contractors were put out of business. The ones hardest-hit were those guys who just had to have a lifted brodozer, a weekend toy hauler with all sorts of cool toys to haul around......all on a contractors wages LOL.

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Yeah but the title is kind of like clickbait.
And the link he sent does lead it your direction.
I'm a contractor never needed one but I could see they are easier to work on and probably cheaper in the long run

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Yeah but the title is kind of like clickbait.
And the link he sent does lead it your direction.
I'm a contractor never needed one but I could see they are easier to work on and probably cheaper in the long run

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I'm thinking ANY 4x4 is gonna be easier to work on because you can buy parts anywhere, including the junkyard, and every mechanic in town can also do it without a Learning Curve.

Oh, and you can also transport it to a shop or store without need for massive trailer and tow vehicle.

You can leave stuff semi-locked and completely weather proof in a truck's cab. I was watching guys scramble to save all their gear from a 'covered' buggy unless it was parked on pavement in nice weather. Just parked on dirt means every other thing that comes by, including the wind, covers everything with dust and dirt. I've seen bird **** on the seats. Not an issue with truck.

I did cruise a Gator for a couple months and I sorta worked because one section of road was very narrow, but other than that I wasn't impressed. It never died but sure acted like it was gonna, requiring a backup plan. Bumpy, slow, noisy, dangerous, very limited capacity compared to smallest mini-truck like 89 Toyota.
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Side by sides have their place just like any other vehicle. Use it for what you need/want it to do. You can weigh out the good vs bad on every vehicle, if you want/need it, then get it.

Are you trying to talk yourself into or out of buying one?
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We have them at work and friends have them on their properties. Easy in/easy out. Less than half the weight of a truck, cheaper maintenance. Very simple to work on, tilt beds, cheaper registration and good on fuel. They're also noticeably smaller than trucks and you have much better vision and field of view.
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Well, lets see....some advantages might be: not having to deal with DMV -one of the money-grubbing bandit agencies of the Marxist Kleptocracy State, no semi-annual smog check and fees, no annual registration b.s., no mandatory insurance with high costs. Easier and cheaper to work on - no "check engine" light smog sensor code nonsense and all kinds of electronic crap to fail and f'up. Load it up on a trailer or in the back of a truck and away you go. Takes up less space and goes a lot of places a street truck won't go.
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They run on diesel, and they're small.
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Vast majority of this country, they can be plated for street use.

California we're lucky we can plate a Ford.
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Well, lets see....some advantages might be: not having to deal with DMV -one of the money-grubbing bandit agencies of the Marxist Kleptocracy State, no semi-annual smog check and fees, no annual registration b.s., no mandatory insurance with high costs. Easier and cheaper to work on - no "check engine" light smog sensor code nonsense and all kinds of electronic crap to fail and f'up. Load it up on a trailer or in the back of a truck and away you go. Takes up less space and goes a lot of places a street truck won't go.
I agree with everything this man said
And let me add ,, They are a Heck of a lot of Fun

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We use them at work. Smaller, way more maneuverable, use less fuel, when things are damp they don't sink into soft ground as bad, if the terrain is uneven (it often is) they are many times more capable than a truck.
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Main advantages for contractor/construction use would be cheap registration and lighter than a pickup. Quicker to move parts and supplies around. Helps out a lot on muddy sites. Plus anybody can drive them.
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You're looking at a Ranger, which is their straight-up utility model, but you need to be looking at a model like the General or a RZR. Or a Can-Am Commander or Maverick.

For trails and light-to-moderate 4 wheeling, sport side-by-sides are incredibly capable. Stock for stock, you can take them in places where you wouldn't dare take a stock pickup truck--and not have to worry about damaging your daily driver, either. They're a hell of a good time.
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My buddy bought one for his property. Lot easier on the land and the vehicle while felling bug damaged trees. Very maneuverable. Very capable.

And ya...no DMV commercial vehicle plate fees and maintenance.
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I see those SxS used all the time on the construction sites I work on. Way quicker and easier to move people and materials around a 30+ acre job site.
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Well, they are a write off during the work week and much fun out in the desert on the week ends.
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Vast majority of this country, they can be plated for street use.

California we're lucky we can plate a Ford.
^^^^This right here^^^^ Lot of snowbirds tow them behind their rigs and use them for daily driving in free states.


Plus we use them a lot on the farm and ranch.

My dad made a buggy out of two Corvairs. Good front group off one and Turbo Monza motor back half from another. Shortened the wheelbase 19 inches and dished what had been the doors. Replaced the stock 13" rims with some 20's off a truck.

It idled at 35mph, popped wheelies in 3 gears and was a blast off road.
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On a farm or large parcel of land you use them to go to the mail box, spray the weeds, pull a water trailer for when you weld, fetch wood for the stove, go to the other out buildings, turn off the water in the lower fields, drive to the garage to get the car or truck, put on a trailer and use on other property or public lands etc, etc etc. We have a side-by-side, a golf cart, an old nursery cart etc, etc. Beats walking and cranking up a one ton truck as you multitask and make endless repairs. When you run your own water system etc, you get to fix it.
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The can am is awesome. Thing is lightning fast, massive wheel travel. Unreal what these things have become.
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The fast ones are like mini trophy trucks or ultra4 trucks. Scary fast and extremely capable.
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