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Old 02-25-2011, 6:36 PM
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Still don't know why this isn't a sticky yet, but just figured out a a way to lock the Beryl Side folder without any visible mods when the stock is installed. I didn't like the "Set screw" method and if I were to ever have it fold again, the dimple would bother me.

Couldn't find my old pics, so I took some new ones

Put the stock in the folded "closed" position and you should be able to see a pin. This is the pin that holds the push button stock release. Drive it out and the button and a spring should pop out.



2 options at this point
#1 - Easier, but requires drilling in a place that will be covered with your rear trunnion

#2 - Harder, but does not alter the stock

I'll show pics of #1, but if you don't want to drill, #2 is similar to most any other folding stock. It involves tapping out the stocks hinge pin, putting something solid behind the push button so it doesn't move and then inserting the latch side first and then lining up the stock to pop in the hinge pin. My issue with that was that the folder assist spring is super rigid and it involves hours of wrestling with it to get the pin holes lined up. That's my warning and that was a horrible experience so I figured out Method #1

After you've removed the push button and spring, put the stock in the "open" position and use a drill bit to go through the retaining pin hole and mark the underside of the top tang of the stock.



Once you get a good mark, drill through the metal with a sharp bit. I already drilled through at this point.



Once you get the hole drilled, reinstall the spring, push button and retaining pin. Once you put the stock in the open position, you should see the top of the retaining pin from the hole you just drilled. Just tap the pin from the bottom and it should move into the drilled hole.....DONE!!!



your stock is locked and the hole will be covered once you install it on your gun. if you move out of state, remove the stock, punch down the pin a little bit and it will be a functional folder again.

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Still don't know why this isn't a sticky yet, but just figured out a a way to lock the Beryl Side folder without any visible mods when the stock is installed. I didn't like the "Set screw" method and if I were to ever have it fold again, the dimple would bother me.

First step - remove the latch/spring by pressing out the retaining pin shown here (the hole in the middle). You need to punch it out from the bottom out through the top


2nd step - put the folder in the "fixed" position and use a drill bit or punch to mark where it hits the rear block


3rd step - Drill through rear tang with a bit size about the same diameter as the retaining pin you removed.


4th step - reinstall latch/spring/retaining pin. Now drive the retaining pin, back into the rear block to keep it fixed open


It still requires drilling, but this mod will always be hidden when the folder is installed
Nice! Good addition to this post
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Great thread 69mach1. I have another suggestion for clamping the underfolder. Instead of using a copper pipe, I use a piece of 1/2 inch diameter clear plastic tubing. Cut it open only (not cutting in half) Because it is flexible, the whole tube can go all the way around the UF shaft. Then clamp it down with 2 clamps ( I think one clamp will do depending on how thick the tubing is) it is easier than cutting the copper pipe. Took around 3 min to do.
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I love this thread, I have 3 folders to fix, got it done in one swoop STICKY!!!!
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I love this one. Simple replacement for the pin you have would be an old/extra allen/hex wrench. Thats what I'll use.
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I love this thread, I have 3 folders to fix, got it done in one swoop STICKY!!!!

I love this one. Simple replacement for the pin you have would be an old/extra allen/hex wrench. Thats what I'll use.
I'm thinking one good thing about using the pin that belongs there is that at some point in the future if you want to restore it to operational the correct part is already there.
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I'm thinking one good thing about using the pin that belongs there is that at some point in the future if you want to restore it to operational the correct part is already there.
Not sure I follow, I'm only talking about replacing the silver former-clothes-hanger pin with an allen key.
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Not sure I follow, I'm only talking about replacing the silver former-clothes-hanger pin with an allen key.
Maybe you don't have the original part to begin with so that wouldn't make a difference. The one I assembled had a machined pin that went through the shaft.
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I have the pin, but I don't see how having it in the button shaft would prevent it from moving...
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I have the pin, but I don't see how having it in the button shaft would prevent it from moving...
The spring that goes around the shaft if I remember correctly.
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Hah, I think we're totally disconnected
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Hah, I think we're totally disconnected
Maybe I'm wrong. I thought the pic you had was a part from a Bulgy triangle sidefolder. If it's not I'm lost again If it is a triangle sidefolder I think post 31 in this thread shows the spring.
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In reference to the underfolder stock - I was thinking of using PVC and zip ties. Is there any reason this would be less legal than copper pipe and a clamp? PVC could be split and snapped into place like the plastic tubing mentioned above, but would be stiffer than plastic tubing.
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Maybe I'm wrong. I thought the pic you had was a part from a Bulgy triangle sidefolder. If it's not I'm lost again If it is a triangle sidefolder I think post 31 in this thread shows the spring.
Yeah but I'm talking about locking it. I liked the idea posted but people were asking about the L shaped pin used to prevent the button from moving. I just suggested a spare allen wrench.
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Yeah but I'm talking about locking it. I liked the idea posted but people were asking about the L shaped pin used to prevent the button from moving. I just suggested a spare allen wrench.
And my point is if you use the original parts and a piece of copper tubing and a hose clamp to lock it open you will always have the original parts intact and not getting lost. Don't ask me how I know little parts like this get lost over the years.
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kingmoochr
An allen key is a great alternative but I recommend you make an indent for the hoseclamp to rest in. If it slides off to the side far enough the pin/key might comes loose.

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Was planning on it, thanks Still need my barrel, so the sidefolder build is still a few away
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Meh, I still think a cut off 308 case and a cotter pin is the easiest way to do a triangle type SF.
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Meh, I still think a cut off 308 case and a cotter pin is the easiest way to do a triangle type SF.
Cheaper too.
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And my point is if you use the original parts and a piece of copper tubing and a hose clamp to lock it open you will always have the original parts intact and not getting lost. Don't ask me how I know little parts like this get lost over the years.
I had to go get a rifle out and see if I was remembering this correctly. I think it is a .357 case and I put it in there before I sprayed with Alumahyde II. I also obviously need to get a more modern camera and learn how to use it! One of the reasons I like to keep all the parts with the rifle is so that when I assume room temperature my wife will be able to sell complete rifles rather than saying "there are a few missing parts but maybe I can find them".







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Great thread, here's my Polish UF, I used a piece of scrap stainless steel tube from work and a hose clamp I had laying around. I cant wait to finish this rifle next week. I had actually cut the tube in this pic a little too short, but I already made a new one the right length. Thanks for the "how to"


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This has to be the cheapest and easiest way to lock the romy ak wire folding stock lever type, 3 washer and 1 ziptie you can find this items in your garage lol check the pics.




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Nice idea and nice rifle
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Ya it works the washer keeps the post from moving and sits tight between the spring and the lever post, hench you can't fold the stock because of this.
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ok, it was way too hard too re-find this gold medal thread. can we PLEASE sticky it. or im just going to post it in one of the stickies threads...
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Im looking for a kit like this to fix a triangle folding stock for a AK. Anyone know who makes it or where it can be found?
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Sleeve and pins. The diameter of the folding stock pin is 3/8 inch.
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Wow! Ask and you shall receive! Thanks
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Thanks for all of the great ideas guys! Hopefully I'll bring down my Saiga next time I go visit the parents in Oregon... just have to make it featureless first (I'd rather not use a bullet button).
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Thanks Mach once again!
What kind of recoil buffer is that on your underfolder, 247Nino?
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mine's fixed "neutered" too...

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hey guys sorry to resurrect this thread but i was wondering if anyone had found a way of fixing the maadi crutch folder stock. thanks! ps this thread kicks *****.
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hey guys sorry to resurrect this thread but i was wondering if anyone had found a way of fixing the maadi crutch folder stock. thanks! ps this thread kicks *****.
A longer screw will prevent the stock from folding. I don't have it in front of me, but I'm pretty sure it uses a similar style locking mechanism as the romy side folder. Which is posted above with some washers and a zip tie
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A longer screw will prevent the stock from folding. I don't have it in front of me, but I'm pretty sure it uses a similar style locking mechanism as the romy side folder. Which is posted above with some washers and a zip tie
thanks munkee, i'll try that.
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I still refer to this.
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Anyone knows how to fix the Egyptian crutch folding stock?
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