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Old 05-12-2009, 10:49 AM
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Default Carbon fiber stock?!

Good luck with recoil if your stock only weigh 1 pound....lol.

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Old 05-12-2009, 11:04 AM
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I guess it depends on what you want it for. Made my M1A wood stock heavier not lighter. I like the weight of my new McMillan.
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The ugly *** tactical mini-14's older brother.

I've taken dumps that look better than that.
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Old 05-12-2009, 12:06 PM
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well i'm sure its fine for a mini-14, no real recoil on a .223...

carbon fiber, if done correctly, also has shock absorbing qualities....i.e. look at all the carbon fiber bicycles and bike parts...

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Good luck with recoil if your stock only weigh 1 pound....lol.

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The ugly *** tactical mini-14's older brother.
I've taken dumps that look better than that.
Come on... say what you really mean.
I love M14s/M1As but mostly as they come- no pistol grip. why turn America's rifle into something tacti- weak...
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I've taken dumps that look better than that.
Ummmm.......THANKS for that delightful Tuesday afternoon VISUAL!!!!
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it would be NO problem for carbon fiber to handle recoil.. no problem at all.. as a matter of fact, CF can withstand a hellz of a lot more than that. its strength to weight ratio is amazing, higher than steel, so do not be fooled because it is light weight.

carbon fiber is beautiful. my favorite material hands down.. got 6 bikes made of the stuff.
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it would be NO problem for carbon fiber to handle recoil.. no problem at all.. as a matter of fact, CF can withstand a hellz of a lot more than that. its strength to weight ratio is amazing, higher than steel, so do not be fooled because it is light weight.

carbon fiber is beautiful. my favorite material hands down.. got 6 bikes made of the stuff.
I think his point is YOU won't be able to stand the recoil.

Ever shot a titanium .357 mag?

Anyways... the addition of a good brake would make it tolerable.
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Old 05-12-2009, 9:27 PM
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UCLAPlinker read my mind.
The reason I say that is because I've shot a 308 Remmy LTR and a 308 Remmy R5 back to back.
The lighter LTR jumped around like a Mexican jumping bean after each shot while the R5 didn't move as much.
Hate to feel the recoil on a sub one pound stock firing 308s.
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Old 05-12-2009, 9:31 PM
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maybe so, but a huge benefit of CF is the vibration damping characteristics. if they lay the weave correct, it can make all the difference.

not sure what a 'sub 1 pound stock' really matters for recoil? so, if it is 5 pounds it must be better at absorbing shock? na.. that is the beauty of space age materials. to make that point, 5 pounds of carbon fiber is stronger - and more absorbing - than 5 pounds of steel. weight seems really irrelevant here. material property is the key.

last, and most logically in this case, working with CF and the molds is not cheap - if this did not have benefits, they would not have made the product.
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not sure what a 'sub 1 pound stock' really matters for recoil? so, if it is 5 pounds it must be better at absorbing shock? na.. that is the beauty of space age materials. to make that point, 5 pounds of carbon fiber is stronger - and more absorbing - than 5 pounds of steel. weight seems really irrelevant here. material property is the key.
What Uclaplinker and others are getting at is that all else being equal, a lighter gun delivers more felt recoil to the shooter. We're not talking about inherent material properties, it's just pure physics- the equal and opposite energy generated by the round cannot accelerate a heavier mass as quickly. It's why those titanium airlight revolvers in .357 mag or ultralight hunting rifles give you so much more of a spanking than the same guns/loads in heavier weights.

As far the properties of carbon fiber, I'd say that while it can definitely be constructed with shock absorption in mind (bike frames being a great example), it is also used in many applications where a high stiffness to weight ratio is desired. When it comes to rifle stocks, stiffness is highly desirable, especially with free floated barrels. With that in mind, I don't think you're going to find a whole lot of recoil reduction in a CF stock, certainly not enough to counter the decreased overall weight of a typical rifle.

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Old 05-12-2009, 10:09 PM
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That pistol grip could prove to be a problem.
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I am guessing that the difference in weight between an M1 with scope and regular stock vs one w/ CF would be 10lbs vs 8lbs. 8lbs total rifle weight is plenty to tame .308 if you hade to hump an extra 2lbs makes a really big difference. Heck I was considering a Tikka T3 lite in 30-06 at 6lbs I doubt the recoil diff with this CF stock is hardly noticable.
Yeah, I forgot that the thread originated in a discussion of a CF stock for the M1A. The difference in recoil between a 10lb gun and 8lb gun, while noticeable, won't be as pronounced as between a 7lb and 5lb gun.

As for a gun that needs to be humped about and not just shot at the range, I definitely prefer one that's as light as possible, with a Limbsaver pad and/or a muzzle brake to compensate in heavier calibers.

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Old 05-12-2009, 11:05 PM
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I'd like to see a Carbon Fiber JAE with Titanium inserts. Make it as light as possible, I'll take the recoil in my shoulder, no problem. I'm a recoil junky!
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Old 05-13-2009, 7:12 AM
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Yah know, I'd definitely be down for a lighter JAE stock.
Cuz that hunk of metal on the JAE makes it impossible to use it as a field gun.
That said, there's almost NO felt recoil on the JAE stock shooting 308s (for me anyway).
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