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Old 05-06-2009, 11:31 AM
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Bradys say college students weren't responsible enough to be armed....

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hat tip to Dave Hardy's www.armsandthelaw.com for noting this...


From http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html ...

College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader

Posted: 4:53 pm EDT May 4, 2009
Updated: 6:41 pm EDT May 4, 2009

COLLEGE PARK, Ga. -
A group of college students said they are lucky to be alive and they’re thanking the quick-thinking of one of their own. Police said a fellow student shot and killed one of two masked me who burst into an apartment.

Channel 2 Action News reporter Tom Jones met with one of the students to talk about the incident. “Apparently, his intent was to rape and murder us all,” said student Charles Bailey.

Bailey said he thought it was the end of his life and the lives of the 10 people inside his apartment for a birthday party after two masked men with guns burst in through a patio door.

“They just came in and separated the men from the women and said, ‘Give me your wallets and cell phones,’” said George Williams of the College Park Police Department.

Bailey said the gunmen started counting bullets. “The other guy asked how many (bullets) he had. He said he had enough,” said Bailey.

That’s when one student grabbed a gun out of a backpack and shot at the invader who was watching the men. The gunman ran out of the apartment.The student then ran to the room where the second gunman, identified by police as 23-year-old Calvin Lavant, was holding the women.

“Apparently the guy was getting ready to rape his girlfriend. So he told the girls to get down and he started shooting. The guy jumped out of the window,” said Bailey.

A neighbor heard the shots and heard someone running nearby.“And I heard someone say, ‘Someone help me. Call the police. Somebody call the police,’” said a neighbor. The neighbor said she believes it was Lavant, who was found dead near his apartment, only one building away.

Bailey said he is just thankful one student risked his life to keep others alive.“I think all of us are really cognizant of the fact that we could have all been killed,” said Bailey.One female student was shot several times during the crossfire. She is expected to make a full recovery.

Police said they are close to making the arrest of the second suspect.

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Intense. I hope they find the second suspect.
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Check out the nasty spin on this headline from the Atlanta Journal Constitution

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met..._invasion.html
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Man shot, killed in College Park home invasion

By Kent A. Miles

Sunday, May 03, 2009

College Park police are investigating a home invasion at a College Park apartment early Sunday in which a victim shot and killed one of the robbers.

Police said two men forced their way into a unit of the Southern Lakes apartments on Lakemont Drive about 2:54 a.m. There were 10 people in the apartment, police said.

After robbing them, the men and women were moved to different areas. One of the men has a gun and fought the robbers, shooting one of them, police said.

The robber was found dead outside the complex, police said, and his accomplice had fled. Their names were not released by police.

One of the women in the apartment was shot and wounded, police said. She was taken to Grady Memorial Hospital for treatment.
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Great story; a perfect example of why just complying with a gunman (or gunmen) under the auspices that they will leave you alone once they have what they want is a much poorer alternative to being able to defend yourself.

In some cases the gunmen want your life as well...
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That's good stuff as long as the girl that got "shot in the crossfire" doesn't sue the guy that saved her from getting raped and killed... </cynicism>
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Seems like a similar beginning to the 'wichita massacre' that nobody's ever heard about. Far better outcome though.
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+1 for Adult, College Student carry!

Now hopefully he'll carry in a holster.
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Man, you'd think college kids would be the last people to save others with a gun, being as it is with most college student heavily left-leaning. But this is the exact reason I'm glad I'm different than most of my colleagues in that I support this guys right to protect himself an others.

Props to the guy that protected everyone.
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Check out the nasty spin on this headline from the Atlanta Journal Constitution
They did a follow-up story too.

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COLLEGE PARK
Slain apartment invader identified

By KENT MILES, KATIE LESLIE

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

Monday, May 04, 2009

College Park police have identified a man shot and killed early Sunday while reportedly robbing a home as 23-year-old Calvin Lavant Jr.

Another suspect in the home invasion at the Southern Lakes apartments on Lakemont Drive is still on the loose, but College Park Police Department spokesman Officer George Williams said an arrest is imminent.

Police said two men forced their way into an apartment at 2:54 a.m. Sunday, where about 10 people were celebrating at a birthday party.

After robbing them of cellphones and wallets, the men and women were moved to different areas of the home. One of the male victims, who had a gun, shot Lavant, who was found dead outside the complex.

Lavant was also a resident of Southern Lakes, according to police.

An unnamed woman at the party was shot in both legs and her left arm, Williams said Monday. She was taken to Grady Memorial Hospital for treatment. Her condition was unavailable.
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I just read up on the Wichita Massacre. Dear God...! You're right, I'd never heard of it until now.

And BRAVO on the shooter for saving everyone's life! Counting bullets? Holy crap.
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The outcome of this would have been tragic and probably be another story for the anti's on firearms. Thankfully, an armed student was able to avert this heinous act.

This story will probably be another one of those success stories on handgun protecting lives that get swept silently under the rug.
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Good story, in you're face Diane Sawyer!
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Man, you'd think college kids would be the last people to save others with a gun, being as it is with most college student heavily left-leaning.
www.concealedcampus.org. Not all or even most college students outside of CA are left oriented at all. Probably a larger percentage than in the general population might be, but other than that I'd say it's not at all as bad as it could be. Lots of squeaky wheels, though.
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Dude that kid's gonna be king of the school after this
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Great story. Another big reason why sometimes bringing along a handgun to a gathering isn't such a bad idea - even as strange as it might be viewed by other guests. Just keep it quiet, make sure you're not breaking any laws, and it very well could save your life.

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I already emailed this story to Fox New's news room and Glenn Beck. I suggest others do so as well, not only to Fox, but to all the other alphabet networks. We need to show them that stories like these deserve the same amount of attention as shootings by bad guys.
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www.concealedcampus.org. Not all or even most college students outside of CA are left oriented at all. Probably a larger percentage than in the general population might be, but other than that I'd say it's not at all as bad as it could be. Lots of squeaky wheels, though.
Yeah, I was speaking from personal experience, and yes, I really like concealedcampus.org, As far as I know, concealed carry on campus in CA is perfectly legal (found out after doing a speech for class on it advocating we legalize it lol)

@ follow up story:

Shot in both legs and an arm? I'm trying to figure out how that happened... Glad she's doing okay though.
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One down, one to go.

If the girl that got shot sues anybody, she should sue the perp when he gets caught.

Score one for the good guys!


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Check out the nasty spin on this headline from the Atlanta Journal Constitution

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met..._invasion.html

Bias, ya think?
Can you show me where the bias is? I'm not trying to be snide or anything, I honestly can't see any bias in what you quoted above. It just looks like a simple collection of basic info to the incident.
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What a story! College Park is a damn rough area too so no surprise when you decide to go head to head with an armed homeowner. Does anyone know how the victim is doing? I hope it's not serious.
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Bradys say college students weren't responsible enough to be armed....

New bumper sticker apropos: "My honor student just wasted your thug punk with a 357."

hat tip to Dave Hardy's www.armsandthelaw.com for noting this...


From http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html ...

College Student Shoots, Kills Home Invader

Posted: 4:53 pm EDT May 4, 2009
Updated: 6:41 pm EDT May 4, 2009

COLLEGE PARK, Ga. -
A group of college students said they are lucky to be alive and they’re thanking the quick-thinking of one of their own. Police said a fellow student shot and killed one of two masked me who burst into an apartment.

Channel 2 Action News reporter Tom Jones met with one of the students to talk about the incident. “Apparently, his intent was to rape and murder us all,” said student Charles Bailey.

Bailey said he thought it was the end of his life and the lives of the 10 people inside his apartment for a birthday party after two masked men with guns burst in through a patio door.

“They just came in and separated the men from the women and said, ‘Give me your wallets and cell phones,’” said George Williams of the College Park Police Department.

Bailey said the gunmen started counting bullets. “The other guy asked how many (bullets) he had. He said he had enough,” said Bailey.

That’s when one student grabbed a gun out of a backpack and shot at the invader who was watching the men. The gunman ran out of the apartment.The student then ran to the room where the second gunman, identified by police as 23-year-old Calvin Lavant, was holding the women.

“Apparently the guy was getting ready to rape his girlfriend. So he told the girls to get down and he started shooting. The guy jumped out of the window,” said Bailey.

A neighbor heard the shots and heard someone running nearby.“And I heard someone say, ‘Someone help me. Call the police. Somebody call the police,’” said a neighbor. The neighbor said she believes it was Lavant, who was found dead near his apartment, only one building away.

Bailey said he is just thankful one student risked his life to keep others alive.“I think all of us are really cognizant of the fact that we could have all been killed,” said Bailey.One female student was shot several times during the crossfire. She is expected to make a full recovery.

Police said they are close to making the arrest of the second suspect.

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I guess our potential victim turned hero didn't watch Diane Sawyer's bit - otherwise he wouldn't have done anything so risky.
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One down, one to go.

If the girl that got shot sues anybody, she should sue the perp when he gets caught.

Score one for the good guys!


Can you show me where the bias is? I'm not trying to be snide or anything, I honestly can't see any bias in what you quoted above. It just looks like a simple collection of basic info to the incident.
"Man shot, killed during home invasion"
This title conveys that a person was killed with a gun but it leaves out that this is a good thing. The reader has room to wonder if the man killed was an innocent victim of gun violence.
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just another example of why people should not own guns. If this guy didn't have a gun, the poor "victim" would still be alive. It wasn't his fault that he broke into the apartment and was planning on raping, robbing and murdering everyone. He just had a bad childhood.
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If the college guy didn't have specific permission from the "homeowner" (I say this because it's an apartment unit) to have a concealed firearm or a firearm at all, could there be some issues with that?

Granted, that homeowner better be pretty darn appreciative that the guy with the gun saved the day.

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If the college guy didn't have specific permission from the "homeowner" (I say this because it's an apartment unit) to have a concealed firearm or a firearm at all, could there be some issues with that?

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I would say that unless possession was specifically prohibited he is OK - I think the lease is required to list what is prohibited, not what is allowed, as in "no pets allowed".

Even if the lease specifically prohibited firearms, it seems to me that consequences could be applied to the renter only and it's not clear from the article if the hero was a visitor or resident.

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... he hit one of the girls 3 times by accident??? or did the gunmen do that?
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Good thing someone at the party had a gun to protect themselves and fellow friends.

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html
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Who wants to bet that the anti's will still spin this? Guarantee they will harp on the fact that girl got shot on accident and ignore the good that came from the student's quick thinking. Either way, hats off to the guy.
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That's good stuff as long as the girl that got "shot in the crossfire" doesn't sue the guy that saved her from getting raped and killed... </cynicism>
This happened in Georgia, I doubt there will be any suing.
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"Man shot, killed during home invasion"
This title conveys that a person was killed with a gun but it leaves out that this is a good thing. The reader has room to wonder if the man killed was an innocent victim of gun violence.
That's why it says this in the article.

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She's going to be okay.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/19365762/detail.html

And that kid is a major league hero.
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Wait, who shot the one girl? I hope she wasn't caught in the crossfire...
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Wait, who shot the one girl? I hope she wasn't caught in the crossfire...
It says she was caught in the crossfire.
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Old 05-06-2009, 3:13 PM
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It says she was caught in the crossfire.
OH CRAP! That sucks! I hope nothing too serious occurred and the good guy doesn't get railed.
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Old 05-06-2009, 3:15 PM
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"Man shot, killed during home invasion"
This title conveys that a person was killed with a gun but it leaves out that this is a good thing. The reader has room to wonder if the man killed was an innocent victim of gun violence.
Ah, it was the title. Here I was, reading the body of the article 5 times over looking for the bias and it was at the very top all along.
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