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Old 09-01-2017, 9:50 AM
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Default Chinese Type 56 From JG Sales

Because a few people asked I am posting some pictures of the cleaned up SKS I received from JG Sales on Tuesday.

One note: It's important to make sure the firing pin is not stuck in its channel. I had one HELL of a time trying to remove the firing pin retaining pin. Finally was able to move it when I placed it on the concrete floor (laying on a vise), and whacked it. In fact, good thing I did this because the firing pin and channel were dirty.

One of the pictures is a cosmoline snake that came out of the bore as I pushed a cleaning rod through it. Yuck!
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Old 09-01-2017, 9:53 AM
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Old 09-01-2017, 10:26 AM
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Great gun, thanks for sharing! You'll have to tell us how it shoots soon.
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Looks like a nice one, congratulations!
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You will enjoy shooting it. At the peak of the ammo shortage i could walk into a Turners and buy 7.62 39 no problem.
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Looks like a nice one, congratulations!
Thanks. I still have yet to shoot the M44 I bought from you too!
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Old 09-01-2017, 12:09 PM
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You will enjoy shooting it. At the peak of the ammo shortage i could walk into a Turners and buy 7.62 39 no problem.
Good to know. But my range likes non-magnetic rounds. Makes buying the ammo more difficult.
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Looking good. The cosmoline snake is a right of passage. It's even more impressive on rifles with a longer barrel. If you want, you can polish up the bolt a bit with Flitz to remove the dark spots.
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cosmoline slugs?
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Old 09-02-2017, 7:25 AM
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Yes cosmolene slugs That's a nice one what you do drive down there and pick?
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I bought 2 of them last year. When I placed my order, I asked for them both to be from factory 26. I requested them to be hand picked for factory, then condition. My request was for 1 in very good shape and 1 that shows a lot of use.

I got exactly what I asked for. The weird thing is both had blade bayonets that have signs of electrical arching. Looks like they were full force (both tips are bent) driven into a live electrical outlet.

They shoot great and I really like the beat up one the best.
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Type 56. I always think first of my Norinco 56s-1 and second of my 4 standard 56s's. Including the police forces version. Where made in China is a plus!!
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Metal looks pretty good in the OP. Stock too, compared to others.
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That one looks nice OP. Congrats!

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Congrats! Nice rifle.
Question...
We're you able to pick the option of "all matching" for the extra $20? I noticed they were offering this as an option and then I waited too long and it was no longer an option...just curious.
Nice score!
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Ok, quick range review for this sks:

I took 40 rounds of wolf ammo with me. Rifle functioned flawlessly except for one failure to extract. At 100 yards, I was able to hit a 12" steel plate 9 out of 10 times. Cosmoline sweat was minimal and easily wiped off. Trigger is typical military feel - short take up and clean break. I like this rifle. A lot!
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Congrats! Nice rifle.
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We're you able to pick the option of "all matching" for the extra $20? I noticed they were offering this as an option and then I waited too long and it was no longer an option...just curious.
Nice score!
They did not allow me any hand select at all, even after I asked. But my rifle is all matching. However the stock is not numbered at all. Don't know if they hand selected anyway or I got lucky. It appears to be in pretty good condition and that may be because all their stock is that way, just a guess.
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Old 09-04-2017, 7:20 AM
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Steel30,

I ordered mine over the phone. The person that picked up the phone was the person who picked my guns out. I was very happy with their customer service.

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Type 56. I always think first of my Norinco 56s-1 and second of my 4 standard 56s's. Including the police forces version. Where made in China is a plus!!
China used the nomenclature "Type 56" to refer to both their domestically produced SKS and AK's.

The difference is the Chinese called their SKS's Type 56 CARBINES and their AK's as Type 56 RIFLES.

kind of like the US did for the M-1 rifle and the M1 carbine.
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I thought it was the other way around, that the SKS was called a Type 56 rifle since it has a longer barrel.
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Ok, quick range review for this sks:

I took 40 rounds of wolf ammo with me. Rifle functioned flawlessly except for one failure to extract. At 100 yards, I was able to hit a 12" steel plate 9 out of 10 times. Cosmoline sweat was minimal and easily wiped off. Trigger is typical military feel - short take up and clean break. I like this rifle. A lot!
I like mine lots too Still get cosmolene weeping especially with days like we've had. I'd like to buy another but my safe just won't take it
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I thought it was the other way around, that the SKS was called a Type 56 rifle since it has a longer barrel.


The "K" in SKS is for Karabin. "Carbine"

"Samozaryadnyj Karabin Simonova" Or Self loading Carbine Siminov.

The Chinese Type 56 Assault "Rifle". Was the automatic rifle version of the Type 56 AK-47.

Yes the "Carbine" was longer that the "rifle"... But only the SKS had "carbine" in it's name from the Soviet original design.

The Soviets also called their SKS's "carbines" and their AK-47's "automatic rifles".
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Nice rifle! The one I got from Classic is looks to have a lot more stock wear although its supposed to be all matching and hand select for exterior cosmetics.
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Yes cosmolene slugs That's a nice one what you do drive down there and pick?
Nope. Phone order and shipped to me.
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Bought mine couple months ago. Caked in cosmoline. Still cant take it out to shoot it because the firing pin is stuck. Tried everything I can but still no luck.
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I stopped in at J&G a few years ago and bought mine. I really enjoy shooting it, much more so than my Mini-30.
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Bought mine couple months ago. Caked in cosmoline. Still cant take it out to shoot it because the firing pin is stuck. Tried everything I can but still no luck.
Did you disassemble the bolt and remove the firing pin? You need to clean the firing pin and channel. A good soak in mineral spirits will do it, but you need to break it down.
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Did you disassemble the bolt and remove the firing pin? You need to clean the firing pin and channel. A good soak in mineral spirits will do it, but you need to break it down.
He probably needs to remove the firing pin retaining pin, which is no easy feat if my bolt is any indication.
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I just drop the bolt into mineral spirits overnight. Pullnout and use a punch/vice to get retainer out.
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I just drop the bolt into mineral spirits overnight. Pullnout and use a punch/vice to get retainer out.
I tried to punch out the retaining pin out but it that pin isnt even moving an inch. Probably should try to soak in mineral spirit overnight and borrow a vice from someone lol.
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I tried to punch out the retaining pin out but it that pin isnt even moving an inch. Probably should try to soak in mineral spirit overnight and borrow a vice from someone lol.
Find a piece of flat steel with an 1 inch hole place the bolt on top with pin centered over hole and tap that pun out. I've never used a vise .
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As soon as I sell my M44 Russian I'm going to order one of those from J&G, looks like a good project
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Vice was used just to hold bolt while tapping pin retainer out.

I'll be posting few type 56 for sale in next week or so. Either sinosoviet or straight 56
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If you only have 1 m44 don't sell it for a sks. Way more and types then good Russian m44s out there
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Although heavy ball is in much shorter supply
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I want a sks because I only have the Russian Izhevsk m44 left for home defense,so I think I'd be better off with a sks,even if it's a Chinese surplus sks.
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Find a piece of flat steel with an 1 inch hole place the bolt on top with pin centered over hole and tap that pun out. I've never used a vise .
Top of vise jaws = flat piece of steel
Slightly open vise jaws = flat piece of steel with a hole.

The vise isn't for holding the bolt in a clamp, it is for supporting the bolt on an immoveable piece of heavy steel with clearance for the pin to come out between the very slightly open jaws.

The trick is making sure the pin doesn't go flying away. Don't ask me how I know.
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Those pins can be a royal PITA. I usually go through my boiling, mineral spirits, brushing, compressed air and more mineral spirits routine.

A can of brake cleaner with the little straw will really help once the cosmo has been softened. Use it from both directions while manipulating the firing pin.
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even if it's a Chinese surplus sks.


You'd be surprised. The overall build quality of the Chinese surplus guns -- especially the early /26\ guns-- is on par with the best of their counterparts from any of the other nations that produced a variant of the sks.

Admittedly, with over a hundred Chinese arsenals producing the sks over a 40-50+year period -- many of them for a limited time and on a very small scale -- there is a wider spread in finish quality. But majority of the Chinese guns were built to Military specifications.
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I ordered one of those Chinese surplus SKSs from J&G sales, hopefully it will be as good as the ones I've seen here and on the videos I've seen. Now I twist in the wind waiting for it to get here. The struggle is real people!
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