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Old 05-08-2016, 6:21 PM
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Default Help Id-ing an old single action...I think?

The father-in-law's collection is slowly making it's way into our safe. This UFO is on it's way, along with some others. The picture is bad, and I can't read anything.

I'm too impatient to wait, so I'm hoping / betting you experts will be able to tell me everything down to what type of gun oil was used in this thing's last cleaning. Thanks for any info.
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Old 05-08-2016, 6:34 PM
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Looks like a Colt Single Action Army with a Bisley frame to me.

Hopefully someone else will be able to tell you more.

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Old 05-08-2016, 7:14 PM
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Or an Italian clone.
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Old 05-08-2016, 7:27 PM
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as been said, that is a Colt SSA or a Colt Clone, from the wear I am going to guess a proper Colt. That is a dream gun to own and fire, you are super lucky to be getting this toy.
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Old 05-08-2016, 7:27 PM
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I believe that is either an original Colt Bisley ( which is just a Colt single action revolver with a old style target style grip and hammer) OR
a Italian copy of the Colt Bisley and it will say which on the frame or barrel somewhere.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Single_Action_Army

About halfway down that wiki page it describes the Colt Bisley

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The Bisley Model (18941915)


Colt Bisley Model .38-40 WCF, shipped 1904 to Copper Queen Cons. Mining Co. Bisbee Territory of Arizona
The Colt Bisley was introduced in 1894 as a target pistol. The name Bisley came from the famous firing range in Bisley, England.The Colt Bisley can be distinguished by the longer grip, the wider hammer spur, and the wider trigger. The distinguishing feature of the Bisley Target Model is the topstrap, which is flat and fitted with a sliding rear sight, adjustable for windage only.The front sight is a removable blade, which fits into the slotted base attached to the barrel. The revolvers were supplied with different blades for elevation.

The Bisley mainspring is longer than the SAA mainspring, and the two are not interchangeable; it is attached to the hammer with a stirrup via a forked upper end. The serial numbers are stamped on the frame, the backstrap and the trigger-guard at the end of production, with tiny dies.

Bisleys were serial-numbered in the range of 156300331916, in the same sequence as the Single Action Army. All Bisleys after No. 161,376 had "BISLEY MODEL" with the caliber stamped on the left side of the barrel, which is rare for older Colt revolvers. The most common calibers were .32-20, .38-40, .45 Colt, .44-40, .41 Colt, and the British calibers .450 Eley and .455 ... A total number of 44,350 were manufactured. Production of the Bisley was terminated in 1912, but serial No. 331916 was shipped after the First World War. Most Bisley Standard Model Revolvers which were shipped to a United States address were not used for target shooting but for self-defense because the grip and hammer were ideal for fast shooting."
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Oh, and although it's hard to tell from just that photograph it smells like...


"sniff sniff"


Hoppe's number 9 gun care oil was the last product that it was used to oil that with before was put away last time...

probably into a silicone impregnated gun sock.

It's hard to tell though because the silicone doesn't have a smell they can overpower the Hoppe's.


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It is a Colt Bisley. Bisleys have a different frame, as well as trigger, hammer, back strap, main spring, and trigger guard than a single action. Sights were either very much like a SA as is the one in the picture, or target style with a flat top frame.
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patent info and what looks like a rampant colt are in the correct location on the left side of the frame for real deal Colt SAA has the push button cylinder pin which indicates post 1899 smokeless version

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Old 05-09-2016, 3:52 AM
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Read the tag?
I have the tag info -- it's just inventory control numbers. The doc which translates them into useful (for me) terms has not yet arrived, which is where the experts of CalGuns come in...

Thanks to all
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