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Old 04-09-2009, 8:46 PM
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Default Which 9mm bullet to use for a 9mm AR?

I already have 1K processed 9mm casings I bought from hkdad, and have an order with RRA for my 9mm conversion kit and parts. So I need to get the bullets for it that will be a good match for plinking and run and gun type of target shooting. I basically kill a lot of paper when I shoot, I plan on using both iron sights and Eotech for sights. Also need a little help picking a decent powder that will propel the round without too much trouble. Right now I am looking at getting 115gr FMJ, any suggestions would be very helpful thanks.

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I already have 1K processed 9mm casings I bought from hkdad, and have an order with RRA for my 9mm conversion kit and parts. So I need to get the bullets for it that will be a good match for plinking and run and gun type of target shooting. I basically kill a lot of paper when I shoot, I plan on using both iron sights and Eotech for sights. Also need a little help picking a decent powder that will propel the round without too much trouble. Right now I am looking at getting 115gr FMJ, any suggestions would be very helpful thanks.

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I have been looking at this same thing today. What I have been finding is people prefer a 147gr Bullet.

But I have also read that 115 or 124 works just fine. But I believe it was meant for 147.

I shoot my sons, and we have been using 124gr, and at 100yds, with just iron sights, it holds its own pretty well. I am starting to reload 9mm, that is the reason I was looking at this.

But I think my platted Berries Bullets that are 124gr will work just fine.
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Old 04-10-2009, 7:24 AM
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My buddy was using 125 grain FMJ NATO ball ammunition. I cant remember the brand of upper but we put close to 1000 rounds through it in a little under 40 minutes?

There were about 9 of us and he let us take turns running it in FA. Other than the barrel getting hot, everything worked well.

As for the Berry's plated, I've never been a fan of their stuff. I tried them years ago and I found that they tended to strip their plating at higher velocities. It was always a nightmare to clean. I asked some of the other reloaders I shoot with and they had experienced the same thing. YMMV of course, but for what they charge, I would much rather use Montana Gold or ZERO bullets.

All the same, good luck with finding something that runs thru your 9mm upper. Definitely let us know the results!
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I've push alot of Berrys through my 9mm & 40SWs with out any problems. The trick is not to push them faster than 1100 fps.
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I've push alot of Berrys through my 9mm & 40SWs with out any problems. The trick is not to push them faster than 1100 fps.
Yeah, they say to use 1/2 max load of a similar bullet.
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I would say buy Montana Gold. Buy by the case it's cheaper and the bullets are very accurate.
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I run the same 124gr cast bullets in my AR as I do in my handgun.
Same exact load too so I don't have to make different loads for the different guns.
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Thanks guys for your replies so far. As of now I do not have a 9mm pistol so basically loading for the AR

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Well I did it finally. Now that I have the 9mm dies and also had some processed cases ready for loading I finally received my Monatana Gold Bullets today! I also bought an 8lb jug of Hogdon Titegroup. Before I was only looking to load for an AR 16" 9mm upper. Well things have changed since then. I am getting a 7" AR Pistol and I am receiving my Glock 17 in 3 days

So now that I have the cases, powder and bullets I am trying to figure out what to do now. Right now I am trying to use Hogdon's site in aiding my reload, but they do not have a recipe posted up for Titegroup and 115 FMJ bullets So can anyone give me some pointers as what to do now? I would really appreciate any feedback

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4.3 if Titegroup is a nice load for a pistol and will run a 9mm AR just fine. Do not load 9 Major for your AR, its too hot for a blow back system and if you use it in your Glock 17 it will be a bad day at the range. A standard pistol loading if more than adequate for a 16" barrel.

I use any cheap bullet in my Olympic 9mm, cast, plated or jacketed it doesn't matter.
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4.3 if Titegroup is a nice load for a pistol and will run a 9mm AR just fine. Do not load 9 Major for your AR, its too hot for a blow back system and if you use it in your Glock 17 it will be a bad day at the range. A standard pistol loading if more than adequate for a 16" barrel.

I use any cheap bullet in my Olympic 9mm, cast, plated or jacketed it doesn't matter.
I see you posted over on be.com stating 4.2 works fine with 115. I guess I can start with that for my G17. Then when I get my AR Pistol I will use the same load. Nos all I have to so is fine a crimp die for 9mm

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I see you posted over on be.com stating 4.2 works fine with 115. I guess I can start with that for my G17. Then when I get my AR Pistol I will use the same load. Nos all I have to so is fine a crimp die for 9mm

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My Lee manual says starting charge of 4.1gr and a max charge of 4.4gr when using Titegroup with 124gr FMJ bullets. The round should chrono at ~1063fps @4.1gr and ~1136fps @4.4gr.
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My Lee manual says starting charge of 4.1gr and a max charge of 4.4gr when using Titegroup with 124gr FMJ bullets. The round should chrono at ~1063fps @4.1gr and ~1136fps @4.4gr.
Wouldn't there be a slight difference for 115 FMJ as opposed to 124? Thanks though,

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Wouldn't there be a slight difference for 115 FMJ as opposed to 124? Thanks though,

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Here's the 115gr version of it.

Starting charge of 4.5gr and a max charge of 4.8gr when using Titegroup with 115gr FMJ bullets. The round should chrono at ~1135fps @4.5gr and ~1158fps @4.8gr.
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Here's the 115gr version of it.

Starting charge of 4.5gr and a max charge of 4.8gr when using Titegroup with 115gr FMJ bullets. The round should chrono at ~1135fps @4.5gr and ~1158fps @4.8gr.
Thanks I am starting off with 4.2 of Titegroup since it was suggested to me before. I will start off with that and increase it .1 grains if needed. I need to get my hands on a chrono. Also my OAL is 1.100" is that good enough? I have already loaded 400 rounds that way he he. I was planning on doing 500 and then seeing how it reacts with my Glock 17. From what I have heard so far it will shoot a nice little flame using Titegroup in anything short of a 6" barrel

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Thanks I am starting off with 4.2 of Titegroup since it was suggested to me before. I will start off with that and increase it .1 grains if needed. I need to get my hands on a chrono. Also my OAL is 1.100" is that good enough? I have already loaded 400 rounds that way he he. I was planning on doing 500 and then seeing how it reacts with my Glock 17. From what I have heard so far it will shoot a nice little flame using Titegroup in anything short of a 6" barrel

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The book says min OAL for this load is 1.125. I'd personally load 10 to 20 rounds or so and test fire them before loading a batch of 500 rounds to keep myself from having to pull 499 or less bullets to redo them.
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