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Old 04-09-2009, 11:56 AM
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Default CAFR/Kathy Lynch petition at CA FFLs: please DON'T SIGN

It appears that the CAFR's Kathy Lynch is circulating a petition(s) concerning ammo registration, Cow Palace gunshow, etc. at local FFLs.

What's interesting is that these petition packets seem to be distributed (at least in part) by bail bondsmen to local FFLs.

This petition stuff is done every 2 years by Kathy regarding whatever the hot gun issue of the day is, but:
  • it won't carry any weight/change any outcome, or "cause pain" to legislators during various key time periods;
  • the primary goal is your name/address being gathered for sale as part of a mailing list;

[If this were a real call to activism, surely she'd gather phone & email addresses?]

The fact that a co-represented entity (a bail bonds firm) is playing paperboy for distributing gun-related items to gunshops should show you how entangled Kathy is with non-gun interests, and how "wires can get crossed" in political horsetrading games.

Just tell The Queen of the Handgun Roster a big fat "No". Perhaps even sign the Petition with the name of your favorite non-Rostered handgun you'd like to buy (if it weren't for her law) instead of your name/address

Remember, the Roster got us not only the whole drop-test/Rostering crap, but set up "Alison's Law", a whole body of law to which things can easily be "glued in" everytime a legislator sneezes:
  • mag disconnect requirement;
  • loaded chamber indicator ("LCI") requirement;
  • microstamping;
  • trivial cosmetic differences still require separate Rostering/payment;


Do you want someone who helped bring forth an antigunner's law to have your name & address, for profit?

I'd think not.
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Old 04-09-2009, 01:43 PM
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Default Use of petitions, ballot intiatives.

Isn't it illegal to use info on those forms for anything other than politics?

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Old 04-09-2009, 02:18 PM
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Isn't it illegal to use info on those forms for anything other than politics?

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Unsure; that restriction may only apply to an actual ballot petition - as opposed to a simple "We don't like this" petition.
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So the petition containing gun stuff belongs to CAFR but Kathy Lynch is promoting/distributing it for them?
This is the same Kathy Lynch that works for the CRPA?

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So the petition containing gun stuff belongs to CAFR but Kathy Lynch is promoting/distributing it for them?
This is the same Kathy Lynch that works for the CRPA?

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Close but not quite...

Kathy Lynch indeed runs CAFR.

She shared office space & more with the retiring CRPA lobbyist.
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Close but not quite...

Kathy Lynch indeed runs CAFR.

She shared office space & more with the retiring CRPA lobbyist.
LOL, that's a hoot, BW. Nice way of saying it wasn't her wisdom she was sharing. This thread is worthless without pics. LOL
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the retiring CRPA lobbyist.
This is welcome news.
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Okay, I give up.

Perhaps my Google-fu is weak. What does the acronym "CAFR" stand for?
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Okay, I give up.

Perhaps my Google-fu is weak. What does the acronym "CAFR" stand for?
It's the California Association of Firearms Retailers.
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