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Old 04-08-2009, 2:30 PM
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Default AK47 vs. WASR-10 vs. Saiga

In what order would you stack these rifles from best to worst?

I'm trying to decide. I like the price of the saiga but the cost to convert would make it cost more than a wasr-10 or I can build an AK47 with a NDS3 receiver and an ak47 parts kit for about the same as a WASR-10 price. One bad thing I hear about the Wasr is that some are out of wack and bullets tumble and you get keyholes rather than bullet holes on your target.

What do you guys think?
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Old 04-08-2009, 2:37 PM
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I'd go with the Saiga, because it's an excellent shooter right out of the box, it is a fun project to convert (and you can do parts of it as money comes in, if that matters) and it's the closest thing you will actually get to a real AK-47.
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Old 04-08-2009, 2:56 PM
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what you describe as "being out of wack" is a shot out barrel, rifling worn down etc


I've never heard of that from a WASR, but I have heard of canted wrong sights, and in general the finish and wood aren't awesome

Also sometime the machining on the magwells is a bit rough and some double stacks have a hard time fitting

I got a "certified" WASR and it was pretty good for <$400

Would I pay $600-800? no way

But I just spent $10 on refinishing supplies and re-finished my wood one night when watching TV, and it looks schweet now

I also have two Saigas, better built and finished better, has bolt hold open... but $550-750 + $100-200 for an AK conversion, its going to be a bit more expensive than a WASR

WASRs are all inherently "used" whereas Saigas are "new", but my WASR shooting fine, fine for an AK

I can group 5 headshots easily at 100 yards...can I put all 5 between the eyes like on my AR? no....


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One bad thing I hear about the Wasr is that some are out of wack and bullets tumble and you get keyholes rather than bullet holes on your target.

What do you guys think?
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Old 04-08-2009, 2:58 PM
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I had the same dilemma on which to choose out of the those three choices. I went with a WASR10. Why? It was ready available to me and after inspection, the new WASR I picked up was in excellent condition. More than I thought it would be. The finish was excellent, the wood furniture was all solid and all matching in color, no canted sight, no magazine wobble and no trigger slap. I am happy with my WASR despite all the negative reviews I have read in the forums.
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Old 04-08-2009, 3:00 PM
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they are all ak's. if i could choose all of them i would.

I would probably go with a wasr though.

cheap.

and can be made into a realy nice gun for not that much money.

plus its an ak
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AK, Saiga, WASR10
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So I bought a Saiga .223 and right after found a wasr-10 for a couple hundred dollars cheaper. I chose the Wasr just because it was ready to go out of the box, as where if I would have kept the Saiga, i would had to have spent some money on relocating the trigger and a new stock, granted you don't need to do this, but I prefer to shoot with a pistol grip hold. The saiga was a good rifle, I just prefered the Wasr10 at the time. I will in the future purchase another one. As for the wasr10, the only problem I found was the previously noted canted sight, but honestly it really doesn't screw with your shooting, I didnt buy a AK platform for .5 groupings and long distance shooting. i bought it for action/tactical/fun shooting. As long as I hit my taget within a a grouping of my fist thats all I am looking for out of accuracy. Other have been able to get tighter groupings, but its all on what you want it for.
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