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Old 04-04-2009, 7:51 PM
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Default Thoughts on the FEG Hungarian AMD-65?

I know the FEGs are some of the best production made AK-influenced rifles going, other than custom/hand builds, Arsenal Inc., and AZEX. I already have an older FEG with wood furniture which is a beautiful build. However, my inquiry on thoughts is; what do some of you think concerning their current availability? A passing thing perhaps? A brief wave? A limited supply sure to dry up?

These are really nice with some interesting features; unique furniture (obvious from the photos) Tapco triggers, interesting muzzle brake, etc. It obviously requires the bullet button mag release.

I have seen a few distributors have these FEG/Hungarian AMD-65s becoming available now, but I jumped on one up today simply because they had it on the shelf where I was doing a PPT for soemthing else; new, that had the Bullet Button installed - I probably paid more than if I had done some shopping around, but probably not by much; and I was already DROSing something else, meaning the in-stock aspect and the one-trip pick up for something I was already required to return to the store for in 10 days made it worth it. The time saver is worth more to me than the price difference of having to acquire it elsewhere, ship to my FFL, a separate DROS and dive/pick-up, and transfer fees - all would have cost about the same.

So... anyone think these are only a temporary influx?






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i'm considering getting one they are a high quality build. it seems that there are a decent quantity. the only thing you have to do is pin the stock in some manner and use a jumbopanda maglock. at least for me i will never use a raddlock personnally.
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I'm not a fan of the AMD-65's folding stock. The look is "cheesy". I am wondering where these Hungarian receivers are coming from though. Seems they just hit the market all of a sudden. Wonder if they're NOS receivers from back in the day and T.C.I decided to build AMD-65's out of them. Or is there a new shipment from Hungary? I can't confirm.

I do have a FEG SA85M and will clone a Hungarian AKM-63 instead.

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i'm considering getting one they are a high quality build. it seems that there are a decent quantity. the only thing you have to do is pin the stock in some manner and use a jumbopanda maglock. at least for me i will never use a raddlock personnally.
How come you don't like the Raddlock? I believe the one I bought has a Raddlock BB on it. It did have a bit of tightness to it in releasing the mag when I tried it out. Not a big concern as I have plenty of spare 10-Rd mags I can dremel the catch-lips to fit.

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The Wood furniture variants look OK (but the Leather Slings are tops as far as AK/AKM leather slings go)
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I'm not a fan of the AMD-65's folding stock. The look is "cheesy". I am wondering where these Hungarian receivers are coming from though. Seems they just hit the market all of a sudden. Wonder if they're NOS receivers from back in the day and T.C.I decided to build AMD-65's out of them. Or is there a new shippment from Hungary? I can't confirm.

I do have a FEG SA85M and will clone a Hungarian AKM-63 instead.
Exactly - they are quality builds. They look great. However, I agree; they just suddenly seem to be all over Gunbroker, on the AK websites, and even some stores in CA suddenly have them in stock, this supposedly "depleted" market.

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How come you don't like the Raddlock? I believe the one I bought has a Raddlock BB on it. It did have a bit of tightness to it in releasing the mag when I tried it out. Not a big concern as I have plenty of spare 10-Rd mags I can dremel the catch-lips to fit.

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alot of people dont like the radlock or evasive locks because it is hard to make them back to detachable magazine for a featurless build, with a jumbo panda, it takes seconds, where as a radlock takes a while. If you dont mind me asking how much did you pay for it ?
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. Wonder if they're NOS receivers from back in the day and T.C.I decided to build AMD-65's out of them. Or is there a new shipment from Hungary? I can't confirm.
This whole importation thing confuses me. I hear stuff about some importers bringing in weapons from foreign countries here and there, but hasnt that been a no-no since 2005? "No more actions,frames,bbls,etc." from other countries? Anyone know the deal with this?
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just a personal thing. i like my weapons to be as original as possible and to have the least "invasive" way to make them compliant. as for no importing i bet these amd 65's are imported as barelled actions nad are single stack and then converted here. but no one seem to know 100%
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I bought one of those FEG receivers years ago.
When these hit the market, I decided to sell my FEG receiver. I got $275 for it; they're rare.
The build was supposed to be special but now they're currently available and made in house which should keep the value steady over an average build.

I'm keeping the kit. Maybe I'll build a pistol out of it.

I'd buy one of those new imports if you've been wanting one. These are the best AMD's that have been available thus far. It might be a short run.

Feg still makes a AMD style carbine but they have different furniture. It might be a retro fit of new accessories on old stock rifles or completely new builds.
This is a pic of the modernized AMD. Pic from Hungary.
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intresting.......i need to get an amd 65.
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Feg still makes a AMD style carbine but they have different furniture. It might be a retro fit of new accessories on old stock rifles or completely new builds.
This is a pic of the modernized AMD. Pic from Hungary.

The one lying on the glass in your photo, to the right of the bipod/drummed example is the one in question.

As for importation, barrels are NEW without doubt - the barrel on the one I bought is clean beyond compare, and the rifling looks as good as a new Remington 700; besides, original AMD-65 kits have short 12.65 barrels which would not be legal in the US (unless a long brake/FH is installed which wasn't the case here); and I did notice these had Tapco triggers, Pro-mags, and certain external parts like the muzzle-brake looked USA made - however, the grips and skeleton wire-stock appear to be original AMD pieces.

According to Atlantic Arms these are "They are original imported factory built Hungarian Rifles on a high quality Hungarian FEG receiver . These are high quality AMD rifles and not built by Century Arms and are not built in the US on kits."

They are stamped "Made in Hungary" - See below.

So I think these are coming in as barreled receivers only and possibly built here from kits that were imported a while ago - I seemed to recall Cope's and even Sportman's Guide having these kits available last year around this time.

I any case, after doing some research, I think these are currently one of the best AK deals and unique examples going, as far as other-country builds go, and I don't think they will last long.

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct446.aspx





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Here is what Classic Arms has to say about those FEG AMD's.
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NOTE: THIS AMD-65 RIFLE REQUIRES THE USE OF AK MAGS MANUFACTURED IN THE U.S. TO MEET SEC 922r PARTS COUNT COMPLIANCE. USE OF IMPORTED MAGS MAY BE A VIOLATION OF SEC 922r.
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Here is what Classic Arms has to say about those FEG AMD's.


http://www.classicarms.us/
I agree - from what I saw, best to use a US mag. But they are coming to CA that way - delivered (or revised).

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I bought one of those FEG receivers years ago.
When these hit the market, I decided to sell my FEG receiver. I got $275 for it; they're rare.
The build was supposed to be special but now they're currently available and made in house which should keep the value steady over an average build.

I'm keeping the kit. Maybe I'll build a pistol out of it.

I'd buy one of those new imports if you've been wanting one. These are the best AMD's that have been available thus far. It might be a short run.

Feg still makes a AMD style carbine but they have different furniture. It might be a retro fit of new accessories on old stock rifles or completely new builds.
This is a pic of the modernized AMD. Pic from Hungary.
Oh god, I never knew there were any tacticool factory AKs.
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I've read that these are newly imported single stack barreled receivers from Hungary that T.G.I. converts to double stack. CALI-gula let us know how well the mag well conversion went on yours.


If you are an AKforum.net member, you can follow the discussion regarding the new AMD-65's here: http://www.theakforum.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=88044

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Hungarian FEG reciever, original chrome lined bbl, one small tack weld on the brake/extension. Over all fit and appearnce is very good.
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Here is a mess. to TGI and the answer, just received!
Hello, i just purchased 1 of your FEG rec. AMD 65 rifles and need to know,
since i plan not to use the pro-mag which came with it, do i need 2 or 3 us
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Some say 2, since the muzzle nut is welded with the ext. also counts as 1
but i dont know! So how many compl parts are on the gun and how many more do
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Us parts on our AMD 65 are trigger, hammer, disconnect, and mag (3 parts). The brake does not count since it is welded to a foreign barrel. Thanks.

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PS. On the TGI amd 65 with the N/S rec. you only need 2 compl. parts!
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Very nice, i also got one, they are made by a FEG outlet in Hung. since the main co. closed down 2 yrs. ago! They only have 3 US parts F/C . so you have to use a us mag. The pro-mag that came with mine is junk, need to figure out the best way to put swivel on!


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does anyone know who will ship the amd-65 to CA?
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Methinks you would need somebody like Lanworld to neuter it.
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It just occurred to me; because I have so many 20 or 30 round magazines well-stocked from days gone by, from when neither Apple Pie or Baseball had steroid by-products rampant within, all of my various pre-RR, pre-SB23, and OLL items have been adorned with either MM-grips or no grip at all. All were minus the tacti-useless stuff to make use of the higher capacity magazines.

Thus, this will be the first build I have that will have a BB for the mag catch because I wish to leave it in it's raw scary-AK-simulated form, just for the fun.

With that in mind, wouldn't the components of the BB contribute to the number of 922r parts?

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Nope.
Ugh. Thanks. Well-made US mag it is.
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does anyone know what dealer sells this to cali, i just got off the phone with classic arms and they dont do transfers to cali
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ask around on gunbroker. i'm trying to figure that out myself.
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