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Old 11-09-2019, 12:22 PM
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Default Liberal Gun Club range day at SLOSA 11-19

https://www.newtimesslo.com/sanluiso...nt?oid=8969289
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The gun club has been around since 2008, but it's changed a lot since its inception.

"When it first started, it was more of an internet forum," he said, "where people could go talk about guns without getting yelled at for voting for Obama."

Progressives and moderates, people of color, members of the LGBTQ-plus community, veterans, and yes, even middle-aged white men make up its more than 2,600 paying members across the country. Since Trump got elected, its membership has more than doubled and The Liberal Gun Club is starting to find its political footing—pro-2A (Second Amendment) but definitely left of center.

"We're trying to get those folks in the middle and to the immediate left to pay attention," Gardner said. "It's hard to have a conversation with a Democrat about guns without it becoming an emotional conversation."
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I understand that there are gun owners who have other political priorities but they are lying to themselves ...delusional even with regard to the liberal endgame regarding guns in America.
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Old 11-09-2019, 1:48 PM
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Not sure I would believe anything that the New Times puts out.
That gun range was the only one in the county that would not let let us gather petions.
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until i see a democrat politician that publicly stated they are pro-2a and votes that way, i will never believe these "liberal gun club" members to be anything more than a joke.
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This just proves that liberals get confused easily...

Not really sure how you can be pro 2A and vote democratic candidates into office...who run on a platform of being anti gun on everything. They also must skip the part of scrutinizing the various candidates’ and party’s stance on the Constitution and 2A.
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Old 11-09-2019, 4:59 PM
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A gun club by the sheeple, for the sheeple.

What's their position on the Beto/Biden gun grabbers?
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"Liberal gun club" is a world-class oxymoron.
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I stopped reading when the article mentioned "vegan chili and beans."
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Old 11-09-2019, 6:24 PM
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I stopped reading when the article mentioned "vegan chili and beans."
WTF is in vegan chili I wonder...
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WTF is in vegan chili I wonder...
It's something you probably don't want to see, or smell, or God forbid eat.

Most Texans say the same about beans and regular ground beef in chili too.
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I ran in to them at Chabot about 5 years ago. They were a nice group of people. In CA you need to be a one issue voter IMO meaning only vote for pro-gun politicians.
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"Liberal gun club" is a world-class oxymoron.

So true.



But, but... but. What if. What if? the lib gun club might be a stepping stone to *right thinking*? for some? A sort of "halfway house" for the mentally confused, those who at their core! wish to exercise their natural-born right to keep and bear weapons yet wrongly think bigger government the cure to society's ills (rather than good parenting, balanced education and so on).



After all is said and done, I do hope that there would be a gateway of sorts to right thinking, in spite of the fact that, as the person Gardner quoted in the OP has said, "It's hard to have a conversation with a Democrat about guns without it becoming an emotional conversation."
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How about a gun club for citizens of the United States of America regardless of any other "identifier" (color, sexual orientation, political persuasion, gender, etc.). Just leave all that to one's own personal business.

If there is a common interest in guns and safe shooting, nothing else matters.

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WTF is in vegan chili I wonder...
When I eat chili beans I want the world to know, how does vegan gas make that statement?
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When I eat chili beans I want the world to know, how does vegan gas make that statement?
Vegan gas comes out the other end.. nonstop!
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Old 11-10-2019, 9:47 AM
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But, but... but. What if. What if? the lib gun club might be a stepping stone to *right thinking*? for some? A sort of "halfway house" for the mentally confused, those who at their core! wish to exercise their natural-born right to keep and bear weapons yet wrongly think bigger government the cure to society's ills (rather than good parenting, balanced education and so on).



After all is said and done, I do hope that there would be a gateway of sorts to right thinking, in spite of the fact that, as the person Gardner quoted in the OP has said, "It's hard to have a conversation with a Democrat about guns without it becoming an emotional conversation."

Nope.. anyone who can own guns and vote democrat has crossed a line intellectually and morally...they are self righteous hypocrites whose hypocrisy extends wide and deep on a myriad of issues ...look at the democratic party. Hoping they will change their minds is wishful and fruitless thinking.

Anyone thinking that coddling them will help them see the light needs to take a hard look at the democrats coddling of sex offenders and violent criminals and tell me how that works out. Once someone has chooses a set of values and an intellectual path to follow and support.. its done!
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WTF is in vegan chili I wonder...
Oh that? It is made by someone who can't/doesn't hunt and had their incisor teeth removed.
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How about a gun club for citizens of the United States of America regardless of any other "identifier" (color, sexual orientation, political persuasion, gender, etc.). Just leave all that to one's own personal business.

If there is a common interest in guns and safe shooting, nothing else matters.

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Where the hell do you live man? You own a computer so you cant claim ignorance. The 2nd amendment and the Constitution are under a very vicious and successful attack by the very people, the democrats, who want to end private firearms ownership in America. Ignoring those who actively support the democrats in our midst is sheer stupidity. The act of being a fellow gun owner does not bestow automatic respect and friendship on those who thru their actions seek to destroy the RTKBA

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Thank you for the link, Librarian. I hope their event does well. It has been my personal experience that once any person decides to become a gun owner in California, he or she quickly begins to see the issues with the gun laws that have been passed in this state. They also begin to see problems with the limitations on what can be owned in this state versus what is readily available in other states. As they learn more, they will find more common ground with other gun owners in this state.
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Thank you for the link, Librarian. I hope their event does well. It has been my personal experience that once any person decides to become a gun owner in California, he or she quickly begins to see the issues with the gun laws that have been passed in this state. They also begin to see problems with the limitations on what can be owned in this state versus what is readily available in other states. As they learn more, they will find more common ground with other gun owners in this state.
LMAO...Another democrat gun owner hoping beyond hope
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LMAO...Another democrat gun owner hoping beyond hope
False. And that doesn't mean I am interested in "the only other team" either.
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False. And that doesn't mean I am interested in "the only other team" either.
A vote for a third party is a vote for the other team...Both democrats and republicans will tell you that. This is not a parliamentary system, its a two party system. Always has been , always will be. You can choose to participate or not.
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You know... I'm really torn about the existence of these groups.

On the one hand, it's good to see as many guns as possible, in the hands of as many people as possible. It makes private gun ownership all the more pervasive in America, which ultimately makes it harder for the Dems to achieve their eventual goal of fully banning them.

But on the other hand, a "liberal gun owners" group CANNOT, by definition, support gun ownership. They will vote for political figures like Clinton and Sanders and Warren, whose political platform is based on totally banning and/or confiscating guns.

So I'm not sure whether to respect these guys or hate them.
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You know... I'm really torn about the existence of these groups.

On the one hand, it's good to see as many guns as possible, in the hands of as many people as possible. It makes private gun ownership all the more pervasive in America, which ultimately makes it harder for the Dems to achieve their eventual goal of fully banning them.

But on the other hand, a "liberal gun owners" group CANNOT, by definition, support gun ownership. They will vote for political figures like Clinton and Sanders and Warren, whose political platform is based on totally banning and/or confiscating guns.

So I'm not sure whether to respect these guys or hate them.
Hate them and socially ostracize them from the firearms community.

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I work with a liberal gun owner. He immigrated from Vietnam, and was on welfare assistance when he was a child, so he's all for everyone who needs welfare and free healthcare getting it at the expense of himself and everyone else.
He voted for Newsome, but he signed the petition when Newsome started taking **** about our company. Especially after Newsome taking the company's money and the unions money.
He buys guns, ownes ARs, and votes for gun control but voting for democrats. He asks me to load ammo for him, because prop 63 makes it a pain in the *** to buy ammo. And he voted for HILLARY!
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Thank you for the link, Librarian. I hope their event does well. It has been my personal experience that once any person decides to become a gun owner in California, he or she quickly begins to see the issues with the gun laws that have been passed in this state. They also begin to see problems with the limitations on what can be owned in this state versus what is readily available in other states. As they learn more, they will find more common ground with other gun owners in this state.
The more important step is if/when they finally get around to contacting their democratic assemblyperson or senator asking them to vote “no” on a gun control measure and they get completely blown off.
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There are more bizarre things than liberal gun enthusiasts.

It must be confusing for them at to voting booth!
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Thank you for the link, Librarian. I hope their event does well. It has been my personal experience that once any person decides to become a gun owner in California, he or she quickly begins to see the issues with the gun laws that have been passed in this state. They also begin to see problems with the limitations on what can be owned in this state versus what is readily available in other states. As they learn more, they will find more common ground with other gun owners in this state.
yeah no.

i got a democrat friend that is a gun owner.

has his grandpa's m1 carbine and revolver. owns shotgun too. but states he would gladly give up the guns if it means he gets all the top liberal talking points of free healthcare, free college , etc. he says it is a small price to pay to get those in trade.

imo, any democrat that owns guns are "gun owners". they are not gun/2A supporters. they don't care for the right, they just enjoy shooting guns. it is a hobby and if it goes away they don't care. they will just move onto another hobby.
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Liberals/Dems/Progs are so freaking perverse you can't trust anything they say.

I'm a SLOSA member, that's where I shoot all the time, it will be fun to see how this shakes out. Also, I want to see how well they behave themselves, following the ceasefire and behind the yellow line rules.
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Where the hell do you live man? You own a computer so you cant claim ignorance. The 2nd amendment and the Constitution are under a very vicious and successful attack by the very people, the democrats, who want to end private firearms ownership in America. Ignoring those who actively support the democrats in our midst is sheer stupidity. The act of being a fellow gun owner does not bestow automatic respect and friendship on those who thru their actions seek to destroy the RTKBA

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Chill out will ya? I do not discuss politics at the gun club I have belonged to in over 20 years. I don't know (and don't care) about any sexual orientation of any member. That is NOT why I am a member.

If I wanted to deal with those issues I would seek venues for that. I don't.

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Chill out will ya? I do not discuss politics at the gun club I have belonged to in over 20 years. I don't know (and don't care) about any sexual orientation of any member. That is NOT why I am a member.

If I wanted to deal with those issues I would seek venues for that. I don't.

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A gun club by the sheeple, for the sheeple.

What's their position on the Beto/Biden gun grabbers?
Robert Francis is misunderstood, and Biden is a gun owner
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These are the people that don't want to ban guns, They just want them limited to Bolt Action Rifles that are licensed by the government and stored at and can only be used at authorized gun ranges.
This is what they consider Pro 2ndA
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I work with a liberal gun owner. He immigrated from Vietnam, and was on welfare assistance when he was a child, so he's all for everyone who needs welfare and free healthcare getting it at the expense of himself and everyone else.
He voted for Newsome, but he signed the petition when Newsome started taking **** about our company. Especially after Newsome taking the company's money and the unions money.
He buys guns, ownes ARs, and votes for gun control but voting for democrats. He asks me to load ammo for him, because prop 63 makes it a pain in the *** to buy ammo. And he voted for HILLARY!
It's pathetic.


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tell him to go f*ck himself and then go buy a Dillon
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Chill out will ya? I do not discuss politics at the gun club I have belonged to in over 20 years. I don't know (and don't care) about any sexual orientation of any member. That is NOT why I am a member.

If I wanted to deal with those issues I would seek venues for that. I don't.

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Huh??? How did that enter into this discussion? Certainty not from any of my comments .
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Name your kid Hunter and then say "we're coming for your semi-autos"? The gaffemaster has struck again
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