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Old 02-13-2009, 10:07 AM
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Default How to shoot a Glock!!!!!

When I got my fist Glock I did my online homework and eventually figured out what everyone else does with 2 stage triggers.

1. aim in direction of target, but don't line up the sights yet.
2. pull trigger, but stop before the 2nd stage is pressed.
3. now, line up the front sight with target.
4. slowly and with utmost control pull the last stage of triger.
5. Keep firearm nice and tight as you do so. I hold it like my 1911 except my 1911 allows me to ride the safety, but other than that its the same hold.
6. When weapon is made safe and you are in the comfort of youre home dry fire the Glock hundreds of times if you have to, but learn where youre Glocks 2nd stage begins.


I am no expert, but learning here and there I managed to reduce my groupings significantly. I have told at least 8 other people about this, sometimes complete strangers at the range and wallah they go from shooting 15in groups to under 5in. Most people who own Glocks already do this, but this trick works for Beretta, Sig, HK, and my Kahr.

I know this is nothing new, but I wish someone had told me to master the trigger mechanism and not just perfect practice makes you better.
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Old 02-13-2009, 10:12 AM
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Excellent. That "1st stage" is known as taking up the slack, the take-up or "prepping the trigger" for those Bruce Gray fans.

The Glock trigger is fantastic, in the sense that it's slack/takeup travel isn't as long as other DA/SA guns such as the SIG, Beretta, Walther, or even a SAO BHP. Also worth mentioning the Glock trigger has a very short reset, so you don't have to go through the whole travel of the take up. Just reset, prep and break the shot for subsequent shots.

Otherwise, sound list you got there.
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Spend $20 and put a 3.5 connector in, replace the firing pin spring with a lighter one and polish everything. That will shrink group sizes if you know how to grip the gun and how to pull the trigger

You basically have it right with your numbered instructions.
I don't like #1. Line your sights up before touching the trigger.
#4 is ok if you are going for precision shooting and you can keep the gun steady. The longer you aim at a target the more likely your eyes will get fatigued and your vision will suffer.

As soon as my sights are on target, i'm pulling the trigger. In a real life situation you don't have time to do all this thinking, you need to practice aquiring the target fast, shooting fast and being accurate. Don't shoot so fast you can't be accurate, but don't take forever.
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Excellent. That "1st stage" is known as taking up the slack, the take-up or "prepping the trigger" for those Bruce Gray fans.

The Glock trigger is fantastic, in the sense that it's slack/takeup travel isn't as long as other DA/SA guns such as the SIG, Beretta, Walther, or even a SAO BHP. Also worth mentioning the Glock trigger has a very short reset, so you don't have to go through the whole travel of the take up. Just reset, prep and break the shot for subsequent shots.

Otherwise, sound list you got there.
Exactly!

One more on your list, if you don't mind me adding, is the Springfield XD when compared to the Glock... this is always the main feature of selling point when comparing these two very popular makes & models.

Glock always wins in this comparison.
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I have told at least 8 other people about this, sometimes complete strangers at the range and wallah they go from shooting 15in groups to under 5in.
Not to be a jerk or anything, but the correct term is "Voila" (not wallah).
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I thought for sure this was going to be a thread on the "dawble glawk."

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Take a training class and find an IPSC group to play with - if you are excited now you will ecstatic after those.
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Isn't taking up the slack on any trigger part of normal shooting? Assuming there is any slack to take up?

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Default I did some upgrades....

I got the Glock apart and did the .25cent trigger job and put a 3.5lbs connector. Now, the pull is smother and I had to re-learn where the take up ends and the 2nd stage begins. It is much more fun this way, plus it did help me in the groupings department.


My other buddies with stock Glocks were shocked and amazed when they shot my G32 the first time after the trigger mods. Now, I have 3 other Glocks to do these mods to. I am a fan of the 3.5lb connector with .25cent trigger job. IMHO the trigger pull is down to 4.5lbs now.

What other tricks do I need to know about when shooting Glocks?

Thank you for all the info folks keep it comming. bigchelis
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I got the Glock apart and did the .25cent trigger job and put a 3.5lbs connector. Now, the pull is smother and I had to relearn where it breaks.


My other buddies with stock Glocks were shocked and amazed when they shot my G32 the first time after the trigger mods. Now, I have 3 other Glocks to do these mods to. I am a fan of the 3.5lb connector with .25cent trigger job. IMHO the trigger pull is down to 4.5lbs now.
Respringing the gun also makes a very noticeable difference.
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Respringing the gun also makes a very noticeable difference.
which springs?
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So this works on a Walther P99QA then? The QA has always been referred to as "Glock-style trigger".
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which springs?
Striker, plunger and trigger spring.

http://gunsprings.com/1ndex.html

Go under Glock and it's the competition package spring kit.
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So this works on a Walther P99QA then? The QA has always been referred to as "Glock-style trigger".

It works on any trigger system with a lot of take up. The Berettas I have shot have a super long take up and without this I would shot all over the place. In fact, I could never hit the center mass of the targets prior to this.
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[QUOTE=bigchelis;2032349]When I got my fist Glock I did my online homework and eventually figured out what everyone else does with 2 stage triggers.

1. aim in direction of target, but don't line up the sights yet.
2. pull trigger, but stop before the 2nd stage is pressed.
3. now, line up the front sight with target.
4. slowly and with utmost control pull the last stage of triger.
5. Keep firearm nice and tight as you do so. I hold it like my 1911 except my 1911 allows me to ride the safety, but other than that its the same hold.

5.5 trap the trigger all the way back, reaquire your target, let trigger out just enough to reset, squeeze trigger and keep your eye on the front sight while maintaing sight alignment and sight picture. repeat as necessary.

6. When weapon is made safe and you are in the comfort of youre home dry fire the Glock hundreds of times if you have to, but learn where youre Glocks 2nd stage begins.


there, i fixed it for you. not just for glocks, but all guns, rifles & shotguns included.
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IMO one of the best ways to accurize a Glock is to go with an aftermarket steel guide rod.
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IMO one of the best ways to accurize a Glock is to go with an aftermarket steel guide rod.
Can you explain a little?
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The best way to accurize a glock is to trade it for a USP.
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Here are some springs you can use to replace the factory ones

http://www.glockwarehouse.com/spring...zt-spr-kit.htm

I also run a steel guide rod with reduced power springs tuned to the ammo I shoot.
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youre off to a good start! keep practicing...you will be fine......fyi.....i keep my glocks stock!!!!!
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stock sucks














but its the most reliable
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Can you explain a little?
These are my opinions on the Glock steel guide rod exchange for the OEM plastic/captive spring guide rod. The steel guide rod assists in the lockup of the barrel to slide lock and slide in that it helps to eliminate any play that exists in OEM firearms. In dry firing many stock Glocks, you may see some slide shift wrt frame as the striker falls. The steel guide rod minimizes or eliminates that slide shift. That is my observation with my G21.

The great things about Glocks is you can easily buy the parts, connectors, trigger bar, firing pin, aftermarket springs, steel guide rods or kits and polish them up/install them to see what effects they have on the pistol. Knock yourself out for IPSC race-gun or target applications.

With that said, many folks advocate using stock/OEM firearms and parts for duty or defensive purposes due to the possible adverse ramifications that could be brought against the owner of a modified firearm in court; if that firearm needed to be used in an actual self defense situation.
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I thought for sure this was going to be a thread on the "dawble glawk."

This is sooo lame. The guy sounds like he's right out of Deliverance...
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