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Old 02-12-2009, 11:51 AM
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Default Suggestions for budget (<$500) long range/hunting rifle?

Likely .308 unless anyone has suggestions for a different caliber (no budget or space for a reloading setup). I was eyeing either a Stevens (can a decent scope be bought for ~$200??) or the Howa rifle/scope combo. Suggestions?

Or, should I save my money and get a more expensive setup (i.e. Rem 700)? Will the extra money be worth it? I'll likely just be using this to get into hunting and occasional long range shooting.
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i'll leave others to recommend rifles, but i've heard good things about Bushnell elite series scopes. i want to say they can be had for around $250
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You will end up with a better rifle if you hunt for a used one at your local shop. You should be able to find a decent bubba Mauser with acceptable optics for under $400.
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Hunting rifle under $500.0 with a decent scope, probably. But a long range rifle under $500.00 with scope, I don't think so (well it depends what you call "long range"). You have to throw at least a other $500.00 to it to get something to go with.
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I'm going to be selling my Remington 788 in .308. Fantastic rifle - in great shape it has less then 50 rounds down the pipe. Trigger is great the lock up time on these is the fastest of nearly any bolt action.

Has a 3 round detachable mag - you can get mags from Brownells.

I want $400 for it without the Leupold 3x9 scope.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_788

PM me if you are interested - I'm going with another caliber as my hunting rifle.

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Isn't the Tikka T3 in that range? That's what I'm considering myself.
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+1 for Howa/scope combo, scope got great reviews last year or the year before.
The howa barrels are made by another top-notch company or they make barrels for a top-notch company, cant remember which. Thought I heard something about browning some time ago. I could stand to be corrected though
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I think you can get a Remington 700 SPS in 308 for about $550 (not including tax, DROS, etc)? But I've heard good things about Stevens, Howa, and Savage. I'm also partial to NATO calibers (but if that's not a concern for you, then you might consider 30-06). So much depends on your preferences and particular situation, but if you're just looking to get your feet wet, you might consider a Mosin Nagant (I think they run under $100) and a $200 scope (not sure if others would agree with this recomendation). Just remember, you might outgrow it quickly.
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save a few $$ and get a rem 700
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save a few $$ and get a rem 700
Why do you say so?

My idea of "long range" probably isn't the typical definition, but I mean sit down and hit some of the 300 meter plus targets instead of plinking at clays at 50 meters...

I'm in Iraq right now so can't exactly make a purchase , but I'm considering what to get when I return.
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Again, if you just want to get your feet wet, I'd say pick up an inexpensive Mosin and some decent optics (again, I hear good things about the Bushnell Elites, but have not looked through them myself). I'm currently using a Leupold VX-III 3.5-10x40 (which will run you between $400-$600) on a 700.

At least this way you can figure out if hunting/longer range shooting is for you (you can then transfer your scope to your new rifle).

Just curious, but what branch and MOS?
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Look for somthing used. I know Big 5 had some Savage rifles in 7mm mag with a 3X9 scope for 400$. Don't know if they're still avalible but when you get back check into that.


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Howa 1500/Nikkostirling 3x9 combo's, All the calibers you could want, Great houge embedded stocks. and I believe they are $499.00. I have one in .270 and love it. The scopes are fair and will get you by, I upgraded on the cheap for a Bushnell 3200 10x and now I really love this rifle.
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Ooops $599 here you go

http://www.legacysports.com/products...teaterpkg.html
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+1 for Howa/scope combo, scope got great reviews last year or the year before.
The howa barrels are made by another top-notch company or they make barrels for a top-notch company, cant remember which. Thought I heard something about browning some time ago. I could stand to be corrected though
actually HOWA makes the weatherby vangurd rifle. IMHO for less than $500 i think its the best bang for the buck. The Tikka T3 is a really close second just because you have to buy some glass for it and that can run up the bill
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Howa sells there rifles with a Nikko nighteater that is "airgun" rated?? Wonder how that works on their $600 7mm mag.
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How far is "long range", and how big of animals are we shooting?

If it is 300 yards or under, then most any newly built and scoped bolt action sporter rifle will suffice in a suitable chambering for deer. Given the price range, if I were thinking new, a Stevens or Mossberg would suffice, and leave enough money for an acceptable scope.
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Howa sells there rifles with a Nikko nighteater that is "airgun" rated??
Wonder how that works on their $600 7mm mag.
Airguns are harder on scopes than centerfires due to the spring actions.
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I have been really impressed with my Remington 700 SPS. But the glass will take you over budget.

SC Review: http://www.snipercentral.com/spstactical.htm

Good luck in your search and come home safe.

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Grab ahold of a used 7mm Rem Mag. Something like a Winchester Model 70, etc., should go for a reasonable price, even as a package.
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Yeah, I was going to suggest a Mauser, but didn't know how much they run these days (figure they're about $300+ ?).
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There was a buildup of a stevens 200 that was just out the other day. Around 600 you could get the gun, bushnell 3200 elite 10x40 mil dot, bipod, standard stock, and a removable mag. It was a cheap buildup until a target style stock was put on and some extras were added here and there that kinda nickel and dimed him. Anyway, search budget stevens and I'm sure you'll find what I'm talking about. Also, the mossberg ATR got stellar reviews from guns and ammo with a vortex crossfire scope that was in the same ballpark. Good luck whatever you decide.
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+1 Tikka T3 Lite.

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Remington 770's come with a pre-mounted and boresighted 3-9x40mm scope and are available in 243 Win, 270 Win, 7mm-08 Remington, 7mm Remington Mag, 30-06 Springfield, 300 Win Mag, or 308 Win. MSRP for any of those calibers is only $460, street price would probably be lower. Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.
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Are we talking the same Mosin here? The only Mosin I knew of were the $80 plinkers at Big 5. Are you telling me they can hold a group at 300+ meters comparable to a Remington or Savage?
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Are we talking the same Mosin here? The only Mosin I knew of were the $80 plinkers at Big 5. Are you telling me they can hold a group at 300+ meters comparable to a Remington or Savage?
I think their main reason to choose an $80 rifle is that it satisfies the "under $500 with optics" requirement.
They are completely missing the fact that if the OP may want to hunt with it in the condor zone that there are no viable copper-bullet hunting loads available for it.
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$500 is really scraping the bottom end here, but here's yet another option:

Mossberg ATR in 308. 22" Barrel with 1-10 twist. $333.19:
http://www.ableammo.com/catalog/prod...ducts_id=86130

Bushnell 10X40mm Mil Dot. $174.66:
http://www.blackbearsportinggoods.co...1040M&click=12

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Leapers 3-9X44mm Accu Shot. $99.99:
http://www.pyramydair.com/cgi-bin/ac...essory_id=2429

You'll need rings too. The Leapers scope comes with rings, but they are pretty much junk. Burris XTR rings are worth looking into, probably the best bang for the buck as far as scope mounting goes.
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I think their main reason to choose an $80 rifle is that it satisfies the "under $500 with optics" requirement.
They are completely missing the fact that if the OP may want to hunt with it in the condor zone that there are no viable copper-bullet hunting loads available for it.
Hmm, interesting... ammo must be lead free in condor zones. Would this fit the bill for a lead free hunting round in 7.62.39? Cor-Bon DPX Hunter Ammunition 7.62x39mm Russian 123 Grain Barnes Triple-Shock X-Bullet Lead-Free Box of 20

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Hmm, interesting... ammo must be lead free in condor zones. Would this fit the bill for a lead free hunting round in 7.62.39? Cor-Bon DPX Hunter Ammunition 7.62x39mm Russian 123 Grain Barnes Triple-Shock X-Bullet Lead-Free Box of 20

Mosin's are 7.62X54R. You could probably buy some of those lead free bullets to load into 54R cases, but now you get into reloading, completely blowing the $500 limit.

Randall brings up a good point about lead free ammo. For it to be a hunting rifle as well as a semi long range rifle, lead free ammunition should be a consideration. This pretty much rules out most of the C&R rifles except those chambered in 30-06, or re-chambered to a more modern cartridge.
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