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Old 02-09-2009, 6:41 PM
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A friend just got a JP custom AR -- I'm going to see it in a couple of days -- what's the deal with these? Anyone else have one?
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i would also like to know what others think as i am considering a JP upper for a precision style AR build
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They are the hot ticket in 3 gun.
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I believe there's one for sale right now...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=152467
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i would also like to know what others think as i am considering a JP upper for a precision style AR build
Can't go wrong there. I have a 24" JP-15 upper in 6.5 Grendel. Man that thing really spoils you.

With factory AA ammo it will shoot 1/2-1 MOA every time. With reloads I can shoot groups under 1/2 if I do my part. Smallest so far is 0.3" CTC, 6 shot group @ 100 yds.

Mine has the black teflon finish.. looks great.
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When shopping for an upper, my action shooting buddy steered me towards JP. I've got an 18 inch JP-15 with the low-mass bolt carrier on order. Upper and handguard in OD Green! I too have been told that in the action shooting sports, JP Rifles are without peer. Getting ready to ship off an OLL so JP can build out the lower with their trigger group.
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They are one of the best uppers for 3 gun or any other shooting. The owner John Paul is a 3 gun shooter also. I got an 18" Mid Weight upper. With PMC Bronze 55gr, I got a 1" group at 100 yds. Federal Match King 69gr. 1/2" group. Getting ready to reload and look forward to fine tuning the ammo for the rifle. You can't go wrong with a JP. Well worth the money. I have never heard of anyone getting a bad JP product. These guys know what they are doing.
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One of the best custom rifle makers. IMO
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http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=152467
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Thats the priciest lower I've ever seen then! I thought it was the whole rifle, but msrp is around 3k for sure off of jp's site.
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Their rifles will be featured in the upcoming series Kings in March. One of the best rifle money can buy.
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I have one, thanks to my buddy RANDY here on CG's. It's great!
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Excellent race-styled rifles. Think of them as STI/SVI of the AR world.

They're actually quite innovative and do very good stuff.
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Do they sell lowers/rifles to California?

If not I could use freekshow man. right?
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don't they have a gigantic backorder right now?
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1) JP only sells complete rifles. They do not sell lower receivers nor upper hlaves alone.

2) JP rifles are famous in competition shooting circle. They have complete product line, including trigger module, bolts/carriers, barrels/gas blocks and creative forearm/mount platforms.

I know because I am a shooter and I love JP products.
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i wonder how i always see jp uppers for sale if they only sell completes
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JP does in fact sell just the upper, I just ordered a complete upper directly from JP. And it was listed in their price list as such. When I bought last month, the wait was 16 weeks.
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Got an 18" vtac and its a tac driver. thanks to randy for the recommendation i love the rife. great trigger, feel etc. it rocks. if anyone is in the area get a hold of me and ill let you know when i go to the range and you can come fire a few shots out of it.
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As a follow-up to their website, what's the difference between the 3 uppers (CTR vs. JP-15 vs. JP-15 VTAC) ?

Is the CTR the most accurate and the VTAC the most rugged?
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The ctr uses their own upper receiver, alloy carrier, no forward assist. The JP15 uses a standard flat top receiver. The Vtac I think has a flash hider instead of a comp.

I have a JP 15 and the rifle rocks and has for years. I've posted a picture on here and if you guys want and I can find it I'll do it again. 5 shots 300 yards under 3 inches with a 4 power scope 3 shots you could cover with a dime. That was with a ctr complete rifle. Shot by a friend of mines wife.
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Thanks randy!

I sent JP the same question as well and here was their response:

"The accuracy potential of the three rifles is very close, but if you had to put them in order, you would be correct:
1st: CTR-02
2nd: JP15
3rd: JP15-VT
When it comes to reliability, there is no difference. They are all incredibly reliable and durable rifles.
Our current estimated build time is 4-6 months."
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I was blissfully unaware of JP Rifles until today. Thank you all very much for creating an entirely new addiction. I think I will have to add the CTR-02 to my list. There are also only 3200 things keeping me from ordering LRP-07 in .308.
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JP makes good rifles.

Barrel profiles are thick, even the lightweight resulting in heavy uppers and the comp is based on an older design...a little loud and recoil pulse directed back at the shooter.

Currently at matches like the USPSA 3gn nationals, Ft. Benning and Superstition, you see less JP uppers and more lighter profile barrels from makers like Lilja, Douglas, Shillen, White Oak.

Top 15 3 gun guys ususally shoot what their given by sponsors....
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1) JP only sells complete rifles. They do not sell lower receivers nor upper hlaves alone.

2) JP rifles are famous in competition shooting circle. They have complete product line, including trigger module, bolts/carriers, barrels/gas blocks and creative forearm/mount platforms.

I know because I am a shooter and I love JP products.
JP actually does sell complete uppers by themselves.

I bought two JP-15 uppers in 6.5 Grendel from them last year. Ordered May '07, arrived April '08
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Thanks randy!

I sent JP the same question as well and here was their response:

"The accuracy potential of the three rifles is very close, but if you had to put them in order, you would be correct:
1st: CTR-02
2nd: JP15
3rd: JP15-VT
When it comes to reliability, there is no difference. They are all incredibly reliable and durable rifles.
Our current estimated build time is 4-6 months."
One huge warning about JPs more top-end stuff. It's really designed for people who use the exact same ammo in a competition environment.

The lightened carriers and adjustable gas isn't ideal for someone who's going to be shooting tactical classes, crawling on the ground, etc.

That doesn't diminish what they are in any way, but just something to consider when you're making your purchasing decisions. You should buy a rifle that fits your requirements.
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One huge warning about JPs more top-end stuff. It's really designed for people who use the exact same ammo in a competition environment.

The lightened carriers and adjustable gas isn't ideal for someone who's going to be shooting tactical classes, crawling on the ground, etc.

That doesn't diminish what they are in any way, but just something to consider when you're making your purchasing decisions. You should buy a rifle that fits your requirements.
what's ideal for that kinda stuff?
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I haven't experienced Ucla's problems in harsh environments with my JP. I'm not saying it couldn't happen but it hasn't happened to me.

Sure the top 15 shooters are going to shoot what their sponcers give them. I have one of the light fast airy uppers that is used by the top shooter in the country and for a mere mortal I don't think it it better than my JP.

If your favorite MX guy wears Oakley's and Thor gear you are going to wear Oakleys and Thor gear. If your local top of the heap shooter is using Brand X rifle you are going to use Brand X rifle. If you can afford it.

If your club has more hoser short range stuff then a lighter faster gun would be an advantage. If you club has some short range stuff but also has lots of awkard position long range steel then a rifle with more weight is better.

That has been my experience YMMV.
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In late 2007 I bought just a JP barrel, gas block and hand guard from JP.
Any you can just get an upper.
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JP makes good rifles.

Barrel profiles are thick, even the lightweight resulting in heavy uppers and the comp is based on an older design...a little loud and recoil pulse directed back at the shooter.

Currently at matches like the USPSA 3gn nationals, Ft. Benning and Superstition, you see less JP uppers and more lighter profile barrels from makers like Lilja, Douglas, Shillen, White Oak.

Top 15 3 gun guys ususally shoot what their given by sponsors....
Not sure where you got the idea his barrels are heavy, maybe the olds ones from 10 years ago?

JP makes his barrels in different profiles from over 1" to 1/2" under the hand guard in 16 to 20". His light and ultra light barrels are the lightest you can buy. His tactical comp is very effective and similar to most on the market and does not effect on the shooter, bystanders maybe, but not the shooter.
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I bought a JP-15 Upper and it took about 6-7 weeks for deliver in 2007. They must be real busy now for that long of a lead time. As far as ammo that works in it...everything, except Wolf, which I'm considering using because of the ammo prices. I'll probably just have to clean it more. I have the LMOS bolt carrier assembly, LMOS buffer, the stainless steel barrel with BC Comp, the heat sink and the adjustable gas block. The weight never really bothers me and I'd buy another JP without hesitation. It's worth the money. I used my BM hard top with a Simmon Pro Diamond scope until I could afford the JP and never had any regrets.
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i picked the vtac cause i felt it was the best balance between accuracy and reliability. now that i have about 4 builds going on i have been considering swapping my barrel to the ctr barrel with built in comp and putting the whole low mass system in there as well.
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And you can but just the JP15 lower. I got mine from VTAC. They shipped to AmmoBros. I really like it.

I think the CTR-02 lower only comes as a complete gun but you can but just the CTR upper.
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I've sung the praise of JP for along time you will be hard pressed to find a better upper, or company. I've had excellent after the sale service.
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I have a JP as well and love it although I am not exactly sure which one it is... Anyone else know what model mine is?

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I'm seriously a fan of your posts, Randy.

I should have been more specific. I'm referring to their race-style, competition parts - the lightened carriers & adjustable gas blocks. There's a smaller operating window with this set-up that doesn't tolerate crap as well. This combination can be finicky, especially if you want to switch ammo without adjusting the gas system.

Its design parameters are perfectly fine in a competition environment where things are controlled. If you're trying to build a rifle for complete reliability and ruggedness, the less is more option is better.

The bottom line is to tailor your rig for what you shoot and what you want it to do. There's no right or wrong answer for everyone.


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I haven't experienced Ucla's problems in harsh environments with my JP. I'm not saying it couldn't happen but it hasn't happened to me.

Sure the top 15 shooters are going to shoot what their sponcers give them. I have one of the light fast airy uppers that is used by the top shooter in the country and for a mere mortal I don't think it it better than my JP.

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If your club has more hoser short range stuff then a lighter faster gun would be an advantage. If you club has some short range stuff but also has lots of awkard position long range steel then a rifle with more weight is better.

That has been my experience YMMV.
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That's a LOWER only.
I know that. What's your point? I was just pointing out the mere fact there's one for sale right now and if you wanted info you could contact the seller. I'm sure he'll know something...
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Wolf ammo in a JP! OH NOOOO! I sure it will work but, it is just too terrible to think about.
I bought a Model 1 22LR upper to, set up the same as my JP, for my short range practice.
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I have a JP as well and love it although I am not exactly sure which one it is... Anyone else know what model mine is?

Isn't that a jp15 with a recoil eliminator on it?? I don't think its the vtac as they have a black barrel and YHM flash hider, and the ctr has a different upper on it.
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Any thoughts on how a GAP AR-10 will compare with the JP .308? I've been looking at the GAP for a few months now, but I also like the JP rifles as well. Just wondering if anyone has shot both.
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