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Old 08-29-2013, 9:27 AM
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After talking to a few new hunters I thought this might help. These dove tips I’ve learned over the last 23 years of hunting in the IV

Safety
Don’t shoot low flying birds
If the roads look bad don’t push it…..have a shovel and a tow chain just incase
Never have a round in the chamber if the gun is touching the vehicle….rounds in the mag okay
Always watch where you point the muzzle loaded or not
Don’t shoot within the city limits or 150 yards of an occupied dwelling
Don’t shoot unless you can identify the bird flying….there are lots of birds that are protected or not in season out there so don’t do it
Don’t shoot yotes with bird shot unless they are after you or your dog no need to wound a yote too die a slow death…..if you do have to shoot a yote unload your gun on him and chase after him to make sure he is dead, then remove the carcass.
Don’t have a beer or other adult beverage until the guns are put away
Don’t drop your cigarette butts on the ground keep it clean
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Fields
If posted don’t hunt there and don’t be a dick and be on the edge of the field….lots of fields in the IV just move
Stay out of row crops
Don’t shoot birds in the row crops
Don’t let your dog run in the row crops
Don’t take a crap/pee within 300 yards of a posted organic crop even in ditches or non planted areas including your dog!….If crap is found near an organic crop the farmer looses all crops in a 300 yard radius.
If the field is not posted you can hunt it but don’t stand in the middle or walk out in it……the birds will not be there long and no need to piss a farmer off with your trails walking thru alpha.
Don’t shoot near sheep that are in a field……the sheep are clearing the field for the farmer so he does not have to plow or kill the old crop.
If a bird falls into a ditch be careful and don’t cave in the sides of the ditch…..the farmer has to clear the ditches to keep the water flowing
Pick up your trash and other peoples trash including bird carcasses
Don’t haul *** on the dirt roads dust will kill crops
If a farmer asks you to leave move on…..don’t get into an argument with him even if the field is not posted
Don’t crowed other hunters that were there before you ask first…..if you wait most likely the hunters will have their limit in no time and will move on or just move and find the fly way into and out of the area.
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Dove behavior
Doves will fly into a field to feed before first light and at first light. Then when they have their fill they will fly to get gravel then water then roost. Around 2-3pm doves will fly into the fields to feed then when full they will go for gravel and water then roost.

Don’t be afraid to move if the birds stop flying or you just don’t see any. Last years fields will most likely not have the same crop as this year so look around for the birds.

While driving look for birds flying once you find them box the area or follow them to find where they are feeding or roosting. If it’s the middle of the day look for plowed fields, burnt fields or dead trees for roosting birds. Binoculars are a must the doves blend in so well in a plowed field you’ll miss them.

Doves use structures to navigate, including canals, power poles, trees, hay stacks buildings, roads just about anything they can see from the air.

Doves see movements so don’t move when you see birds until they are within shooting range….just freeze. Break up your outline with sticks, brush or shade…..camo won’t help. Don’t stand or sit in the middle of a field no matter how many birds you see in the middle, you will push the birds into another area/field.

Don’t forget to check the desert areas the birds like to roost just inside away from the fields

Theirs more but this should get you going in the right direction
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Other things to remember
The IV is a sleepy town restaurants close the doors at 9pm……fast food may be your only choice after that.

It’s hot and muggy out there so drink lots of water and not just beer.

Some paved roads are still in bad shape from the earthquake from a few years ago so watch for the fault lines especially in the drainages.

Plan on being check by the GW’s so don’t push it and be polite

Don’t pass the tractors until you make eye contact or they pull over to let you pass

You will see lots of Boarder Patrol trucks so be careful when driving the roads and shooting……they will hide in the brush and park just off the roads.

Have fun and shoot straight!
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:18 AM
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I said that but it should be said again and again some people just don't get it!!!!

And don't forget the micro trash!

What floater? J/k
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How's the weather doing down there? I really want to go to the IV since I've only ever had success there, but the weather fluctuation is killing me. Any new reports from the past 2 days or so?
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Well they say rain passes thru Friday afternoon and then hot and muggy the rest of the weekend.......but who knows it's better than sitting on the couch!!
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Haha! That's true! I've been keeping my eye on weather radars around the Salton Sea area at Wister and have only seen reports of sun and clouds, so I'm really hoping they were accurate. Don't want to have another dead opener!
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I expect it will be a tough opener. There are birds but they will be very spread out.
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New nothing about the ''Ghost round'' had to look that one up.
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No plug? I was talking about the 4th on a old SBE it's called a floater.
That's not what I was saying go back to TOF they love you.

I forgot about shooting time....of course F&W has not published the regs?????? Duh.... But it's 1/2 hour before sunrise until sunset! Last year it was 5:47am-7:07pm for the valley.

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I have an older Benelli, and have ran four rounds in it, warden didn't say anything bad to me. Tube was plugged and only accepted two rounds. So the shot gun was legal by definition. His words were, "you got the high cost bonus"

Most if the time it is just three rounds in the gun, the "ghost" round is for first thing in the morning.
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Bring lots of cold water to drink
Don't let them swim in the cement lined ditches it can be hard for the dogs to get out. Can't tell you how many owners had to jump in the water and help the dog out. There are plenty of smaller ditches that are fine.
Watch you dog at all times their are many hazards out there.
Rattlers are there so keep an eye out
Don't let your dog over heat. When they have a bird in their mouth they can't cool down so watch for that. Dogs also cool down thru their pads on their feet so walking on concrete and asphalt can be hard on them.
I have a water bowl next to me with shade so the dog can cool down and find a small ditch with slow moving shallow water so your dog can cool off. Most of the water out there will be cooler than the dogs body temp just be careful.
You can also bring a cooler or plastic tub add water/ice and let the dog roll around in the bath. It helps to have a small dog
If your dog does overheat get them in cold water ASAP and feed the dog Gatorade. We had to do this at a NAVHDA event once and the faster you bring the temp down the better.
Signs of heat exhaustion disorientation, heavy panting followed by no panting, dog not listening to commands, running in circles or running from shade to another spot of shade and so on.
When in a crowded field try to makes sure your dog only retrieves your bird if not make sure to give the bird to the right hunter. Don't be the dick head who plays its my bird if my dog gets to it first. A fight wil occur seen it! nothing like two fat guys trying to punch each other and then end up wrestling in the dirt.
When you park to eat lunch make sure the dog has cooled down and is in the shade with a breeze and has lots of cold water.
Another way to cool them down quickly run the truck a/c and vent the air into their panting mouth.

Or leave the dog at home
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DS, when I see the warden this weekend I will ask that same question.
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Cool, maybe I got cool wardens on both CA and AZ sides. I'm pretty much a warden magnet during dove season.
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"Never have a round in the chamber if the gun is touching the vehicle….rounds in the mag okay"
I may be wrong, but I believe that having a loaded gun leaning against a vehicle or laying in the bed of a vehicle is illegal.
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It's not loaded if it's not in the chamber....rounds in the mag is fine.

If you have ever been checked by a warden and your driving he wll ask you to open the chamber to verify it has no rounds in the chamber.

But I will tell you that I unload my autos completely......you never know when a gun will fall and could load and fire

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Lots of road closures

The following roads are closed for repair due to storm damage:
Fleming Road
from Wirt Rd. to Montgomery Rd.
Young Road
from Fleming Rd. to Wi
est Rd.
Wilkinson Road
from Fleming Rd. to Wiest Rd.
Bowles Road
Sperry Rd. to Lyerly Rd.
Keystone Road
between Highline Rd. and Highway 115
Wiest Road
from Highway 78 to Keystone Rd.
Bond’s Corner Road
from Hunt Road to Snyder Road
Quay Road
between Highw
ay 115 and Bately Road
Dunaway Road
between Interstate
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8 and Evan Hewes Highway
The following Roads are closed for repairs due to earthquake damage:
Worthington Road from Forrester Road to Huff Road; Includes Bridge No.
58C
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0071 at New River
Maximum Load Weight Limit is NOT TO EXCEED 5 tons on
Bridge 0051, So
uth
Coyote Wash, on Evan Hewes Highway, approximately 3.4 miles east of the
City of Ocotillo.
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If there are signs posted and it's questionable, call a game warden. DO NOT TRESPASS! There are signs right now near the Mendota Wildlife Area that say no hunting/shooting. This is an area I've hunted in the past without any issues with DFG and it's not private property. If I go there in the morning, I WILL be asking a game warden about the area.
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I agree during pheasant season it's worse!

Good luck getting a game warden on the phone tomorrow.....if you just shoot over your limit I'm sure one will find you j/k
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Park next to me, you'll be sure to see one.
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Unfortunately I wont be able to make IV this weekend. I will however be traveling between Corona and El Cajon down I15, any places along there that I can stop off and try? Any ideas would greatly be appreciated.
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Not on your neck of the words but going for doves for the first time. Pulled out the Auto 5 my dad gave me. We found a good place bordering an irrigated field with a row of trees where they are roosting. Better get to bed, leaving at 5:15 for a 6:38 first shot.
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5:47 is shooting time for the IV
Good luck
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Not hunting in that part of the state but interesting info on farm land etiquette. Thanks, I hate looking like a noob in new places. I'll stash that info away.
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Hope you all had better luck than us. Not a whole lot of activity though we could see evidence of a lot of activity. I think we spooked them off early by being too obvious. And, our shooting sucked so we only brought 9 birds home between us. I ended up with the meat and will now see if I like it and if I can get my wife and son to eat it.
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Debone them soak in water and a little salt for a few hours then wrap in bacon hold with toothpicks then grill on high once bacon crisp time to eat. Add some BBQ sause, or what ever you like.
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Went dove hunting for the first time today and got the first one in our group...my only one of the day. Everyone else got 7ish, what a day!
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Sweet thanks!
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This has good info on dove hunting and should be rejunenated.
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"Never have a round in the chamber if the gun is touching the vehicle….rounds in the mag okay"
I may be wrong, but I believe that having a loaded gun leaning against a vehicle or laying in the bed of a vehicle is illegal.
Not wrong, Correct, DFW Wardens are State LE Officers. They "CAN" if they "choose", enforce State PC laws, as well as Game Codes. They "can" if the "choose" even write speeding tickets. Rarely do they do either, but they do have the ability to do so.

Friend was approached by a Warden waiting at his Bronco while deer hunting. Cleveland Natl Forest. Warden asked for license/tag and ID. Chamber was empty before friend walked back to Bronco on Forest Serv road. But had rounds in magazine of Mauser. Friend leaned rifle against tire of Bronco. Warden asked if loaded? Friend opened bolt and showed him empty chamber. Warden wrote him citation using PC for "Loaded Rifle in Vehicle" on a public road, for rounds in mag leaned against tire.

It CAN happen, I saw the ticket. I will also add that friend was in his forties, married father of 2, and an aerospace engineer. Not someone who would ever mouth off or be disrespectfull to LE.

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Don't forget to put your jet ski in a canal and have fun! LOL yeah I did this a couple times. People about chit themselves when I went by them while camping on the canal road. Try this today I'm sure you'd get arrested. But hey I did it first.
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Not wrong, Correct, DFW Wardens are State LE Officers. They "CAN" if they "choose", enforce State PC laws, as well as Game Codes. They "can" if the "choose" even write speeding tickets. Rarely do they do either, but they do have the ability to do so.

Friend was approached by a Warden waiting at his Bronco while deer hunting. Cleveland Natl Forest. Warden asked for license/tag and ID. Chamber was empty before friend walked back to Bronco on Forest Serv road. But had rounds in magazine of Mauser. Friend leaned rifle against tire of Bronco. Warden asked if loaded? Friend opened bolt and showed him empty chamber. Warden wrote him citation using PC for "Loaded Rifle in Vehicle" on a public road, for rounds in mag leaned against tire.

It CAN happen, I saw the ticket. I will also add that friend was in his forties, married father of 2, and an aerospace engineer. Not someone who would ever mouth off or be disrespectfull to LE.

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It states in the regs in the chamber is a loaded gun not in the mag. I drive around while hunting with the mag full all the time....it's always good to have the regs with you or on the phone.
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Not wrong, Correct, DFW Wardens are State LE Officers. They "CAN" if they "choose", enforce State PC laws, as well as Game Codes.
It "can" happen. It "has" happened. It "will" happen again. Only questions are, when, and to who?
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Does anyone know if the same public fields will be available this year or if they change every year?
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look it up on dwu website
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