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Old 06-09-2016, 3:14 PM
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Default Bad day of fishing!

I know the title is misleading, however, this is the long and the short of it.
While fishing on the Belmont Shores pier yesterday I hooked into a baby Sculpin, I knew what it was when I reeled it in, I was using a Sabiki ganyon trying to get small live bait to fish with when I hooked this little guy.
I think some of you can see where this is going, anyway I pulled out my pliers in an attempt to rid my line of the little beast and at the last shake of him coming off the hook he/she got a dorsal fin spike, two actually, to just touch the top of my thumb and delivered its venom through the top of my knuckle on my right thumb, I don't know how many of you have had the unfortunate luck to have this happen to you but, $#!@ does that sting hurt.
I've broken a bone in my hand before and I can tell you that pain of the sting was right up there with that if not worse, I didn't get to any hot water for about 25-30 minutes after and boy was it on, sometimes you can just blank pain in your mind and get through it, This wasn't one of those times.
I pray it never happens to anyone else, but I know it will.

Use extreme caution when handling these fish, they are no joke.
I may have this pain although not as bad as the initial sting up to several weeks.

What a dreadful fish.

And a bad day of fishing.

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Old 06-09-2016, 3:44 PM
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One of these things....




from the web-
California scorpion fish is equipped with actual venom glands and the poison is a protein-based toxin that can be deactivated with heat so a hot compress or dipping your finger in a cup of hot water or coffee will deactivate the poison.
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Old 06-09-2016, 3:49 PM
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I cut the line
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Old 06-09-2016, 4:24 PM
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Thanks for the reminder how easily they can stick you. Sucks that it stung you

I've caught many, fortunately without incident. They make great tacos
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They make great tacos
lol. I will forgo that greatness, buy Senor Fish tacos.

Sorry for that happening OP, protein based toxin does not sound good.

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Best Answer: Common to the family Scorpaenidae are 12-13 dorsal spines, 2 pelvic spines, and 3 anal spines. Each spine is associated with a pair of venom glands. A loose integumentary sheath covers each spine. The sheath is pushed down the spine during envenomation, causing compression of the venom glands located at the base of the spines. Venom then travels from the glands through anterolateral depressions in the spines and into the wound, in a manner analogous to that of a stingray envenomation. The pectoral spines, while often ornate and plumelike, are innocuous. The venom toxicity is due to antigenic, heat-labile proteins of high molecular weight. Treatment is based on the proposed heat-labile characteristics of these proteins.

The effect of their poisonous spines on other sea creatures is that of a nerve poison. When injected into a victim paralysis occurs, including the heart.
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I'm sorry, but the worst day fishing is 100 times better then the best day working...at least for the regular joes.

I'm a musician and I play for a living! I still work at it, but I love it.

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When my son was about 7 and we were fishing on my boat he had to release a short halibut and it made him cry. Then I took a sculpin sting to the hand and that made me cry. He couldn't wait to get home and tell his mom "I saw dad cry, I saw dad cry". The little s#@t.
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lol. I will forgo that greatness, buy Senor Fish tacos.

Sorry for that happening OP, protein based toxin does not sound good.

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I don't mess with anything that has "anal spines"
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Ouch man.

My sculpin experience today wasn't quite as bad. I had one at a work happy hour. It didn't sting me, sticking my hand into the ice bucket was cold tho.
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I never expected the day to end the way it did with my kid having to see me grimacing in pain.
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Suck it up buttercup, I took a stingray barb into the forearm that hit the bone it was like getting stabbed with an ice pick. I radioed poison control they said seek medical attention, fishing buddies kept say lets get you to hospital I said no wrap it up and let's keep fishing as we were killing them.

Next day I woke up with a volcano on my forearm and ended up in emergency room. O well live and learn. I've got a nice scar in my arm from it.

By the way just giving you a hard time sounds like it sucked. Still had to be better then going to work.
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I got grazed by one on my right thumb. My hand was throbbing to my wrist when I got back to my truck.

They are very tasty though.
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Pacific rattlesnake. Pulled up one while kayak fishing MDR one night...cut the line.
Also, got a nick in the shin from one, on the boat once...pain

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pnly safe place to grab them is lower jaw
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I know rockfish are in the scorpaenidae family and have venom also. I had a brown rockfish on my stringer while free diving once and kicked the anal fin real hard by accident. Enough for it to penetrate my 7mm suit and get a good stab into the ball of my ankle. My ankle swoll up big time and it was a deep bone aching type pain. Makes me wonder how much worse a sculpin would be.
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I've heard their poison is highly variable person to person. Some people, it hurts but doesn't last and others are like it did to you. I got stuck by a stingray while diving and I imagine the treatment would be about the same. Get the affected area in as hot of water as you can stand and in brings the pain down to tolerable within seconds! It's kind of hard if you don't have access to anything like a microwave, but good to remember.
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So peeing on it doesn't help?
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I've been hit twice by sculpin in the past. Last time was several years ago when a deckhand on a cattle boat lost his grip and dropped it. The little bastard's spine went through my deck boot and into my big toe while the first one(a year before) got my finger. Both times my digits swelled up like sausages and damn did they hurt. If you're allergic to bees and such it can be worse. I always carry benadryl in my tackle bag now just in case there's no hot water around. It takes longer but it helps. The best revenge is to eat them. They are delicious!



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Sculpin is really good to use for ceviche, just learn to handle them
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I think it was payback for all of his/her cousins aunts and uncles that I've eaten.

I think it got the better deal though...damn it hurt
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