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Old 07-21-2016, 12:06 PM
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Default Aggressive Coyotes

I have a few coyotes that are really aggressive around my home. They're walking right up to my fence and stalking my dog, jumping in my backyard and looking through my windows on my doors, tearing open my trash and drinking from my pool. It's only a matter of time they end up carrying off my dog or worse.

I live on a large property where I can shoot lawfully and I need some advice on a round that will accurately put the coyote down, but hopefully not pass through. I have 9mm, .38/.357 handguns, 9mm pistol carbine and 5.56 rifles. I have all sorts of different types of ammo, just about every type in each caliber. Make a suggestion on which firearm you would use with what ammunition. I'm leaning towards the 9mm carbine with a federal 147gr HST.
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Any of those rounds will kill a coyote. If you can make the shot at 50 yards or less, the 9mm carbine would be what I would use.

That follows by your AR with a light, Vmax or other ballistics tipped ammo. 40gr at close range should break up in the yote.

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Any of those rounds will kill a coyote. If you can make the shot at 50 yards or less, the 9mm carbine would be what I would use.

That follows by your AR with a light, Vmax or other ballistics tipped ammo. 40gr at close range should break up in the yote.

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I second this. You will want the lightest gr and fastest expanding ammo for the least chance for pass through. Remember a coyote is only 20-30lbs.

Heck, a good .22lr round will do the trick also if they are that close but it may not kill them real quick.
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My experience with 556 and coyotes is that the small bodied coyote does not stop a bullet going 3,000 fps.... That was with FMJ ammo tho because it's cheaper.

I now hunt them with my 308. Safe to say that a coyote does not stop that bullet either.

Just make sure you're not shooting towards your house and that the bullet will go into the dirt shortly after hitting the coyote and you're good.
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I second this. You will want the lightest gr and fastest expanding ammo for the least chance for pass through. Remember a coyote is only 20-30lbs.

Heck, a good .22lr round will do the trick also if they are that close but it may not kill them real quick.
I've nailed a coyote with a 22lr while rabbit hunting haha. Too easy haha.
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17hmr works good for that.
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9mm 147 grn HST out of a carbine sould be just fine without pass through. Camp 9 is awesome on squirrels out to 50yrds. Never had a chance on a coyote with one but would not pass it up or feel under gunned
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If they are close a shotgun is a great way to be safe and still kill them.
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If they are close a shotgun is a great way to be safe and still kill them.
Up close, this is it!
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Another for shotgun.

#4 buckshot 3", out of a Full choke. That's 41 .25 caliber lead pellets headed his way @ 1200fps. Trust me, I wouldn't steer you wrong. It's a show stopper on coyotes out to 50 or 60yds. And the pattern will give you plenty of error margin for shot placement.
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This is the size down here running around. This alpha got his butt chewed off by the Zorro. He has learned how to lure the yotes in his neighborhood when they crap on his lawn.
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9mm carbine, from the shadows. 1 to initiate scream, second to cancel it.
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I'm in the city & I also have fearless coyotes walk right up to my security gate & just stare at me until I'm 5 or 6 feet from them. One was calmly lying in my back yard & when I approached him, he just looked at me like a family dog would until I was 6 feet away & started clapping & yelling, then he hopped a 10-foot fence. When I let my dogs out at night, I go with them with a powerful flashlight & scan the area before they go into the yard. I also have a firearm with me but I know I'd be in big trouble if I fired it, so it would have to be a really desperate situation.
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You need this:

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+1 vote for the hornady 40 grain VMax shot into the head/neck/shoulder. You don't want a wounded dog running off, so wait until they are stopped. These rounds also quickly blow up into nothing if you miss and hit the dirt, reducing your chance of a ricochet or skipping 9mm bullet.

This suggestion might be a bit out of line for some people, but if you are concerned about the noise of a rifle round and your neighbors, shoot from inside the house. Second story is good if you are worried about a missed shot going towards a neighbor. Just make sure to wear ear pro and have your dog or other family members in another room or the garage so their hearing doesn't suffer.
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Im in!! Guns,ammo and caller are loaded up and ready.. just need time and location! haha
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I have several shotguns but if they get spooked, they can run off about 100 yards or so and yip yip yip away on a hillside where I could still get em with a rifle. My ar15 has a light and an aimpoint pro. I actually don't have any 40gr varmint type .223. I was planning on using speer gold dot 64gr soft point.

The sound is not an issue. All my neighbors shoot and I regularly target practice and shoot trap. I'd prefer to use my .308 that way it will vaporize the coyote but if the coyote sees me first, it will scamper off to about 25 yards then mean mug me. At that point my backdrop might not be as ideal.

The 2 coyotes I have seen stalking my dog are about the size of a female german shepherd. Plenty of rabbits in these parts to stay well fed.

How about a wounded rabbit call?
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Yep rabbit distress should work.....get a dog squeak top that's high pitched and use that to get them closer. Sometimes switching it up really gets them. And use you dog as a lure he will bring them in real close
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Yep rabbit distress should work.....get a dog squeak top that's high pitched and use that to get them closer. Sometimes switching it up really gets them. And use you dog as a lure he will bring them in real close
I'm on post right now in my backyard with my dog out also.

Any recommendations on a good loud coyote call?
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If you don't have a boomstick (and I didn't see 12 gauge in your list). My choice would be based off of range. If close, then 9mm hollow point in 147gr like you mention, I'm not sure how accurate your carbine is, but if it's beyond a good range for accuracy that you need to shoot them then 5.56 varmint ammo of some kind.
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Pup distress while your dog is out it is pupping season after all
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I'm in the city & I also have fearless coyotes walk right up to my security gate & just stare at me until I'm 5 or 6 feet from them. One was calmly lying in my back yard & when I approached him, he just looked at me like a family dog would until I was 6 feet away & started clapping & yelling, then he hopped a 10-foot fence. When I let my dogs out at night, I go with them with a powerful flashlight & scan the area before they go into the yard. I also have a firearm with me but I know I'd be in big trouble if I fired it, so it would have to be a really desperate situation.
Same story for me. I just moved from SF, I would find as many as four walking up the street at night when I was taking my dogs out for the last pee. I learned to walk out ahead and check before letting them out. One night I didn't and from way up the street a big male locked on to the littlest dog and started in a dead run towards her. I stepped in front and was about to ready my 5D flashlight for a head blow when the light illuminated in his eyes and he froze and then turned and ran away up the street. I never had a gun as like you knew, discharging a weapon in SF would be jail time for certain.

Ironically, I have been in ID for 3+ months and have yet to see a Coyote. My woods carry gun here would be a no doubter on a Coyote, not much left to mount..
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...Any recommendations on a good loud coyote call?
Any Circe long-range caller will do. Practice and try to make it sound like a crying baby.

https://www.amazon.com/Flambeau-Pred...nge+jackrabbit

Doesn't sound like you need a caller though if they're coming in your yard.

Almost any round at short range in the neck between the ears and shoulders will put em down. Try to get closer to the ear.
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Ya they crap like 20 feet from my door sometimes giant vacant lot with lots of high brush and trees across the street. I am tempted to get an internally suppressed pellet gun, but not sure I wanna spent that much money but considering how many cats they have eaten I would be doing the neighborhood a favor. Plus I saw two parent coyotes nudge their young pup to go after my dog once......then I stepped out of the shadows and it ran back to its parents.

I know they are just dumb animals but for some reason that pissed me off.....screw you quadruped my dog is not your dinner.

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You should feel no remorse shooting any coyote. I shot a pup last week that was the size of a jack russel with my 270 at about 25yds. Literally cut it in half, and I felt nothing.

Whatever the term is for the opposite of endangered species, that's where theyre classed. Population control is what it's about.
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Yep if people don't thin them out they can mess up the food chain
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Get a hunting license or ask dfw about regs. Depradation permit which household pets don't qualify for. Get a paintball gun with pink balls.
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Whatever the term is for the opposite of endangered species, that's where theyre classed. Population control is what it's about.
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