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Old 12-13-2016, 7:32 AM
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Default School me on M1 (***) carbine paratrooper stock

A friend of mine is trying to sell his m1 garand carbine with paratrooper stock. I'm trying to see if this is a good buy or how much should I bargain it for.
Pls. let me know any info you might have regarding this gun.

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Old 12-13-2016, 7:41 AM
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M1 garand carbine?

Well do you know the stock is real?

M1 in a paratrooper stock runs afoul of ca assault weapons laws too.
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Old 12-13-2016, 7:42 AM
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Do you mean an M1 Carbine?

The paratrooper carbine stock isn't that common in CA to my knowledge. You'll also have to get the deal done before year end and then register it as AW next year.

Based on that, I have no idea what a "good deal" would look like. But this will be your last chance to buy one in that form in CA.
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This guy sells them but he calls it Tanker/Truck model
http://garandguy.com/product/truck-model-folder-tanker/
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This guy sells them but he calls it Tanker/Truck model
http://garandguy.com/product/truck-model-folder-tanker/
Exactly like that /\ when he showed me the picture.
If I have an FFL03 and COE do we still have to go to DROS and transfer it?
Then I will fill up the CR form to ATF?
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Old 12-13-2016, 9:29 AM
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An M1 modified like that is no longer considered a C&R.
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Old 12-13-2016, 9:38 AM
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Things to look for and be aware of.
First, many of the so called "Tanker" Garands were made by welding together two pieces of demilled Garand receivers. Some were done well, many were not. Look carefully in the middle of the receiver for mismatched machining marks, or weld marks.
Garands have revision numbers stamped on their right leg below the woodline, and each revision number belongs to a specific serial number block. If you can post the serial number(blocking out the last few digits if you want), I, or somebody, can look up the proper revision number and you can check the receiver to see if they match.
If a Garand has a serial number of 7 million or higher, it was made by the commercial Springfield and should be good to go.
Second, as set up, a Tanker with a BM59 folding stock will be too short with the stock folded to be legal in CA unless it is registered as an AW. Minimum length is 30", and a Garand in a folding stock will usually come in around 28 1/2". Mine did, so I had to put a flash hider on it to make it long enough to be legal when it is in the folder.
If you are buying it online, you need to get the seller to put it into a standard stock, so it will be long enough to meet the length requirements. You can have the stock, and you can put the stock on the rifle, once you add something to the muzzle to make it long enough to meet the minimums when the stock is folded.

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There's an M1 Garand.
There's an M1 Carbine. It's a completely different gun & a different caliber. (ok, 1 screw is interchangeable) Then there's a modification of the carbine with a Paratrooper folding stock.

Before speculating, we really would need to know what exactly is being sold.
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There's an M1 Garand.
There's an M1 Carbine. It's a completely different gun & a different caliber. (ok, 1 screw is interchangeable) Then there's a modification of the carbine with a Paratrooper folding stock.

Before speculating, we really would need to know what exactly is being sold.
It's an M1 Carbine with paratrooper stock which I think some people call it garand tanker.

Not the actual picture but exactly like this.

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That pic is of a M1 Garand with a folding stock...not a Carbine with a folding stock.
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It's an M1 Carbine with paratrooper stock which I think some people call it garand tanker.

Not the actual picture but exactly like this.

I can't decide if I got to have one of these ..... or am repulsed.
I guess I should sleep on it some.
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I think you need to find out for sure what he has. That is not a carbine, he may either have a BM59 or a tanker Garand in a BM59 stock. Then there are commercial made BM59 stocks which ae not worth near as much.
This is my BM59 rifle
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Well, since the OP said it was exactly like the one shown in the link, he referring to a "Tanker" Garand. OP is more than likely calling a Tanker Garand a "carbine". Which it is, though it was never called that.
To the OP, you're more than likely not going to be use your C&R, especially if it is one of the commercially made Garands.
But, IMHO, it can't come into CA as it's setup.
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But, IMHO, it can't come into CA as it's setup.
Are they less than 30" folded?
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i would use all of them..love them

bm59 especially
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Are they less than 30" folded?
Yes. Mine measures 28 1/2" when folded. So, a Muzzle device of some sort needs to be installed to be legal. I used a Garand T37 style Flash Suppressor, that I cut down. So that when it's one the gun and stock is folded the length is 30 1/4".

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ok here's the actual picture.. he said it's m1a2 carbine in paratrooper stock.. how much should i bargain that for?
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What is he asking?
The only M1 Carbine maker who made true Paratrooper Carbines was Inland. If that's not an Inland, then it's more than likely an aftermarket repro. In fact, even if it's an Inland, it's probably an aftermarket repro.
If that's coming into CA, it's an Assault Weapon as configured. Pistol grip and folding stock.
You need to determine who's the maker of the receiver. Some are rarer and command a premium.
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he said best offer and I want to give him a fair price value, it's already here in CA. So if I purchased it will have to register as AW.
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Go to Gunbroker.com and check out prices. If you get it, simply replace the stock with a standard M1 Carbine stock, it will no longer be an AW and you won't have to register it.
You can find M1 Carbine stocks all over eBay for sale.
But, depending on the maker, and condition, you're looking at a price range of $500-$800.
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Go to Gunbroker.com and check out prices. If you get it, simply replace the stock with a standard M1 Carbine stock, it will no longer be an AW and you won't have to register it.
You can find M1 Carbine stocks all over eBay for sale.
But, depending on the maker, and condition, you're looking at a price range of $500-$800.
good to know I have an option not to register it as an AW.
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OK so its not like the rifle in the previous picture posted earlier
That stock is a reproduction, how about the carbine, is it USGI or reproduction
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Amusing thread is amusing!
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