H.R. 197 Right to Carry Bill

[sfpcservice]

I just got the NRA-ILA email about this bill which if passed would require states to recognize each others CCW permits. Just wondering if this is old news or something new?

Being from the bay area and knowing we have a liberal president and congress, I'm not overwhelmingly enthused, but still hopefull. Would this mean CA residents can take the Utah trianing and then carry in CA?

Rob

[yellowfin]

I would hope so. Again, this looks like a long shot with the Unwanted One, but stranger things have happened.

[sorensen440]

I doubt very much that this will gain any traction

[VegasND]

While I would welcome reciprocity of concealed carry licenses similar to driver's license, marriage license, etc., I don't trust the federal government. Google 'Hughes Amendment' then realize that we must be extremely proactive and skeptical of anything our so-called 'friends' may do in Congress.

[BLFD1]

We can only hope! Still we need to make the calls and send the letters and emails to the right people..

[yellowfin]

I really wish it would pass because I'd love to visit the Jersey Shore again.

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by sfpcservice

I just got the NRA-ILA email about this bill which if passed would require states to recognize each others CCW permits. Just wondering if this is old news or something new?

Being from the bay area and knowing we have a liberal president and congress, I'm not overwhelmingly enthused, but still hopefull. Would this mean CA residents can take the Utah trianing and then carry in CA?

Rob

It's new in the sense it has just been introduced in this Congress; it's old in the sense that it has been introduced before, and ignored.

As I read the text, I believe it applies only to, in your example, Utah licenses issued to Utah residents.

BTW, thank you for an excellent thread title. That makes it easy for others to find.

[dfletcher]

Originally Posted by sfpcservice

I just got the NRA-ILA email about this bill which if passed would require states to recognize each others CCW permits. Just wondering if this is old news or something new?

Being from the bay area and knowing we have a liberal president and congress, I'm not overwhelmingly enthused, but still hopefull. Would this mean CA residents can take the Utah trianing and then carry in CA?

Rob

I just did the Utah nonresident CCW. Of course the specifics if this passes are now just guesswork, but some states already make a distiction between honoring a resident CCW and nonresident CCW. Of the 30+ states that honor the Utah CCW, 4 do not honor the Utah nonresident CCW - Colorado and NH & 2 others I can't recall. So that particular exclusion is already known and used, I'd bet states like CA, NY, NJ & MA, etc push to have the reciprocity restricted to other state resident CCW.

[CCWFacts]

It has been introduced every session for the past several years. It gets more traction every year, but still not enough to pass. It's a great bill. It does not create any kind of Federal CCW. It would probably not let a CA resident carry in CA on a UT non-res permit. But it's still a great bill.

Please write your reps to support it, even though it's very unlikely to pass and be signed into law this session.

[CSDGuy]

Originally Posted by CCWFacts

It has been introduced every session for the past several years. It gets more traction every year, but still not enough to pass. It's a great bill. It does not create any kind of Federal CCW. It would probably not let a CA resident carry in CA on a UT non-res permit. But it's still a great bill.

Please write your reps to support it, even though it's very unlikely to pass and be signed into law this session.

Even post-Heller I doubt this will pass until after the 2nd is incorporated against the states. That event would give closet supporters of this bill "cover" to pass it. Once passed, it would instantly make for separate classes non-residents vs. residents of states, especially if the non-residents are from "Shall Issue" states... A legal challenge would be put forth and the quickest, easiest remedy would be to make it apply so that anyone who holds a governmentally issued CCW license/permit can carry in their home state, subject to their home state's rules/laws.

I just don't see this bill being passed any time soon though... the 2A has to be incorporated and the general public has to become used to the idea...