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Old 02-20-2017, 9:16 AM
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Default Can we pack/can our own green coffee beans in cans?

I saw the costa rican green shtf beans for sale. I tried it and the coffee absolutely sucked. It was flat and weak, it tasted like tea.

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Would it be possible to can our own green beans in #10 cans or smaller with O2 absorbers and maybe some nitrogen? Purge the can with Nitrogen while sealing and pop in a couple O2 eaters?

Would there be a risk of botulism with green beans? Or bacteria or mold long term?

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Old 02-20-2017, 9:36 AM
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Never tried it myself but I've read up on it over on Survivalist Boards. That's the method most suggest for long term storage. Lots of videos on youtube about roasting beans.
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The Costco #10 cans of ground coffee generally have expiration dates about a year & a half out. Some people may not like it, but I do. I go through about a can a month and keep 14 - 18 cans on the shelf at all times. I have had some right at the expiration date and it tastes fine to me (I expect you could probably go several months past expiration before you would even notice).

Unless you want more than a year & a half supply, why would you buy more expensive beans, buy cans, nitrogen, O2 absorbers, etc, put in the labor, then have to roast the beans yourself, etc?
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The Costco #10 cans of ground coffee generally have expiration dates about a year & a half out. Some people may not like it, but I do. I go through about a can a month and keep 14 - 18 cans on the shelf at all times. I have had some right at the expiration date and it tastes fine to me (I expect you could probably go several months past expiration before you would even notice).

Unless you want more than a year & a half supply, why would you buy more expensive beans, buy cans, nitrogen, O2 absorbers, etc, put in the labor, then have to roast the beans yourself, etc?
Costco actually sells the green beans in a can at $4/lb. Wonder what the expire is on those? Reviews are mixed.

Anyone want to split a case of cans?

My plans were to can up a coffee I like like Nicaragua Isabella or kona.
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Costco actually sells the green beans in a can at $4/lb. Wonder what the expire is on those? Reviews are mixed.

Anyone want to split a case of cans?

My plans were to can up a coffee I like like Nicaragua Isabella or kona.
I have bought whole bean coffee that I really liked and packaged it in #10 cans with O2 absorbers (before our helpful government prevented the LDS Cannery from loaning out their can sealer). It worked well and kept well, the beans were still oily when I opened them over a year later.

It's simply a matter of economics - doing it that way was twice the price (and more labor) than simply buying the Costco ground coffee already sealed in a #10 can.
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I have bought whole bean coffee that I really liked and packaged it in #10 cans with O2 absorbers (before our helpful government prevented the LDS Cannery from loaning out their can sealer). It worked well and kept well, the beans were still oily when I opened them over a year later.

It's simply a matter of economics - doing it that way was twice the price (and more labor) than simply buying the Costco ground coffee already sealed in a #10 can.
As a person who LOVES coffee I would rather drink $50/lb coffee I canned myself, that I enjoy drinking and like the taste, then one I got for FREE elsewhere that I didnt.

Nothing worse then drinking coffee with a bad taste or not to the liking. If I buy a can of coffee I dont like it either gets tossed or returned. Most I return. Very few coffees meet my expectations for consumption. I just do not like the after taste or bitterness. I do not like "earthy, nutty, chocolaty, burnt)

The few I have liked:

JBM (fresh roasted within 1 week) (not the grocery store blend crap)
Kona (same) (not the grocery store blend crap)
Nicaragua Isabella (impossible to find unless you fly there)

There are a couple others I have had and liked but I cannot remember their names. Its like a fine beer vs budlight.


By the way oil is a sign of old age in coffee or of being burnt.
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Can you imagine.... SHTF, after a few weeks, no coffee to be found anywhere. Then, you break out your green beans and begin roasting, ahh, the smell.... Next thing you know, zombie hordes at your door!
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Long term coffee for my storage is freeze dried.
My day to day stuff is Wally World, Winco or Costco or whatever's on sale at Cash n Carry.
I'm not a sipper either. I've had a pot a day habit since I was a teen.

Coffee is black, hot and has a kick? I'm on it.

**fix bitter coffee with a little salt. Sweeten it with honey. Both good long term staples with lots of other uses.

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If you have never roasted green coffee beans it smells nothing like brewing coffee. More like burning leaves in your yard.

Also some of the flavor comes from the bean origin but most comes from the roasting so if you are particular about your coffee you better get practicing on your roasting technique.

My father in law is into it and spent a few hundred on a computer controlled roaster and all you do is set how long to roast. I can get OK results with that but when I tried in a cast iron pan, the results were poor. Temp control and rapid cooling are important to get good results.

Just saying if you store green beans to get the quality you are a custom to its important to develop the skills needed to get that quality from your green beans.
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