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Old 01-17-2009, 10:54 AM
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Default Gunsmithing for SW 686 smooth trigger job.

HI...

can U give me some gunsmith who can smooth triggers job of S&W 686 in LA or OC area.

and how much is would be ?

this will be for woman use(wife) more info. about shop or person will be helpful.

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I take it the gun will be used for defense??

If so, modifying the trigger would not be a good idea. Light triggers and
defensive weapons are not a good mix IMO.
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WTF are you taking about?

He asked about smoothing a double action revolver.

Some of these knee-jerk resposes are just absurd.
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If so, modifying the trigger would not be a good idea. Light triggers and
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WTF are you taking about?

He asked about smoothing a double action revolver.

Some of these knee-jerk resposes are just absurd.

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So where's your advice??
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So where's your advice??
I do my own work. My advice is for people to learn enough about their firearms to handle these types of standard tasks on their own.

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I do my own work. My advice it for people to learn enough about their firearms to handle these types of standard tasks on their own.
I usually do my own trigger jobs too. I learned when I used to work part time at a gun shop. S&Ws are easy to do. My advice is not to have a very light trigger pull on a defensive gun. Since it's a revolver I don't see how a smooth double action pull will be a disadvantage in court in case it was used for home defense.
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I just like to be litter lighter in double action pull.
Is litter to HARD(heavy) for wife to pull in double action trigger and when is heavy trigger, she just only like to shoot in single action state.

that why I just need litter work done ....not to light just litter smooth and fell bit light then stock.

thank for idea... I will looking to see what other will offer idea.
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I do my own work. My advice it for people to learn enough about their firearms to handle these types of standard tasks on their own.

See, it wasn't that hard.
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Where are you located?

A Wolff spring kit and some minor internal polishign woudl probabyl be what you're looking for.

I wouldn't worry about any court consequences with a modded DA pull- what's a light DA revolver pull? 8, 9 lbs?

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i'd like to see 'em sneak a legal issue into this one.
(in my best daffy duck voice)
JFC, pondering the legal implications of a trigger job. what have we created in this state.
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I do my own work. My advice is for people to learn enough about their firearms to handle these types of standard tasks on their own.
If you are telling them to put lighter springs into a defense gun, all I can say is: RIP

I also never will put a reduced power spring in any defense gun. Just imagine hearing that loud "CLICK!" misfire as the bad guy in front of you drops the hammer and puts your lights out permanently. There is a reason SW puts the stock mainspring weight into the gun..... so they won't be sued by the survivors of the guy who heard the CLICK.
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I just like to be litter lighter in double action pull.
Ask yourself: if a lighter mainspring would fire all types of ammo reliably, why is that spring put in there by SW?

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Is litter to HARD(heavy) for wife to pull in double action trigger and when is heavy trigger, she just only like to shoot in single action state..
Honestly, that tells you it is the wrong gun for her. The stock DA pull of most any revo is in the 12 - 14 pound range. I suggest a Browning HP or similar with shorter trigger reach for better leverage and a lighter pull (about 7 pounds stock). That's a better option than screwig up your 686.
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Where are you located?

A Wolff spring kit and some minor internal polishign woudl probabyl be what you're looking for.

I wouldn't worry about any court consequences with a modded DA pull- what's a light DA revolver pull? 8, 9 lbs?

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The Wolff RP spring set (and no other mods) will drop the DA pull on a 686 down to about 9 pounds. Still very tough for most women to control.
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For all of you lawyers/hd/sd/gunsmith experts on here how many of you have had a revolver trigger worked on by a good gunsmith to use for personel defense that wasn't reliable? None.

That's what I thought.

www.davesmetalworks.com

If you take it to him explain what you are going to use the gun for. He can do it for personal defense or he can do it for range only.

When you build a range gun the ammo is part of the system you don't want that.
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+1 for Dave's Metal Works.Dave's a great gunsmith and a great guy to do business with.
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The wolff reduced power spring kits have proven 100% reliable for me. They use a different design compared to S&W factory springs. Why does S&W make them so heavy? who knows? I'm guessing liability or ease of manufacture. I've felt plenty of older S&W revolvers which had lighter pulls than the Wolff springs provide (either wear due to age, or the springs were entirely different back then- I'm guessing both).

Now, if you go backing out the tensioning screw (K,L,N frames) to get the pull *even* lighter, yes, you will eventually get misfires. Shortening the screw is the only way to get less than 8-9lbs pull, but then you do sacrifice reliability.

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I'm very happy with the Master Revolver Action Package done on my revolver at Smith and Wesson.
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I'm very happy with the Master Revolver Action Package done on my revolver at Smith and Wesson.
I second this...
One of my Smith's is a 5 shot snub nose .38 airweight. I called Smith and they gave me the same BS about a defensive gun and light action job. I insisted they do it and they did. It shoots MUCH better now, very smooth. It was so heavy before I hated shooting it. It's still enough not to go off or anything but it's not the 30 lb. trigger it had stock. I also wanted a magna-port and they scuffed at it and talked me out of it saying it would reduce power. Now I see they offer custom shop magna-port on the SAME exact barrel size I have...
I can speak of the work though, it was good and cheap. I believe it was like $60
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If you are telling them to put lighter springs into a defense gun, all I can say is: RIP

I also never will put a reduced power spring in any defense gun. Just imagine hearing that loud "CLICK!" misfire as the bad guy in front of you drops the hammer and puts your lights out permanently. There is a reason SW puts the stock mainspring weight into the gun..... so they won't be sued by the survivors of the guy who heard the CLICK.
What are you talking about? I never said that.
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I echo the comment about the reliability of the Wolff spring. I had Ken at Diablo Valley drop in one on my 686 and it gave me a smooth and reliable DA pull with zero misfires. I sold it to Sorenson and he is now probably banging Livermore coyotes with that bad boy.
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I have worked on many Smith revolvers, including installation of several types of springs including Wolff. While the installation of the lighter set of springs, if the mainspring is fully tightened, usually provides totally reliable function, sometimes they do not. They have to be throughly tested in that particular gun.

A honing job is usually far more important than reducing the spring weight or tension in making the gun easier to fire. IMHO.
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I have several S&W revolvers and not one of them doesn't have an action job.

Lawyer smack talk about liability is a tempest in a tea pot.

Defense is defense and if you're only looking to stop a threat you weren't active in seeking, you could justifiably use anything at your disposal to stop the threat.

That said, best method for lightening the SA & DA of a S&W is first - Wolf spring kit., then smooth the trigger return block inside and outside - stone the outside, emery the inside. Then clean all surfaces and pivots and use a quality lube like Reel-X or your choice on whatever slides or springs or pivots. Less is more, so don't swamp it.

Stay away from the sear surfaces! Once you've done the above, fire the gun, dry fire, live fire, whatever and in time it will be the smoothest possible.

I don't use the Wolf trigger spring. I leave that stock as I prefer the S&W part there, but the trigger return spring, that needs a Wolf.
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Zippo, this might help you to lighten the trigger pull on your 686. Then maybe you can decide to put lighter spring in later. Just remove you grip from the revolver or if you have access to the screw that tighten the hammer spring on the bottom of the grip frame. Just loosen the screw about half to three quarter turn and this will lighten the double action trigger pull. Do not loosen the screw more than one and half turn.
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I can do it.Located in Monterey Park.
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I take it the gun will be used for defense??

If so, modifying the trigger would not be a good idea. Light triggers and
defensive weapons are not a good mix IMO.
You can make a trigger much nicer without necessarily making it lighter.

A crisp and smooth trigger pull is independent of the pull weight!
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I have worked on many Smith revolvers, including installation of several types of springs including Wolff. While the installation of the lighter set of springs, if the mainspring is fully tightened, usually provides totally reliable function, sometimes they do not. They have to be throughly tested in that particular gun.

A honing job is usually far more important than reducing the spring weight or tension in making the gun easier to fire. IMHO.
+1 on the honing part - funny how when he mention a trigger job, everyone jumps to "lighter trigger pull"

Like above - the most important is smooth and crisp. a light but creepy and bad breaking trigger is no better than a heavy pull trigger with the same flaws!
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I second this...
One of my Smith's is a 5 shot snub nose .38 airweight. I called Smith and they gave me the same BS about a defensive gun and light action job. I insisted they do it and they did. It shoots MUCH better now, very smooth. It was so heavy before I hated shooting it. It's still enough not to go off or anything but it's not the 30 lb. trigger it had stock. I also wanted a magna-port and they scuffed at it and talked me out of it saying it would reduce power. Now I see they offer custom shop magna-port on the SAME exact barrel size I have...
I can speak of the work though, it was good and cheap. I believe it was like $60
ditto - I had them do it on a model 57. Smooth, crisp and excellent. But if you can find a good local for about the same price - save yourself the shipping!
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