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Old 12-23-2008, 11:59 AM
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Default Suppressors legal in CA?

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If legal, I'd like to install a sound suppressor on my 9mm for home defense use. There is a vendor online that sells threaded barrells for my Beretta.
Are sound suppressors legal in CA and are they easy to find/purchase?
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Old 12-23-2008, 12:03 PM
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Have you called the DOJ ? im sure they'll educate you on threaded handgun barrels and suppressors.
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They are not legal, just having that threaded barrel on your berretta makes it, by california law, an "Assault Weapon".
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ok, thanks guys.
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Have you called the DOJ ?
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I've read you can own a threaded barrel that is NOT installed on a pistol (for use when out of state). Is that true? Can you also own a suppressor that is NOT installed on a pistol?
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I've read you can own a threaded barrel that is NOT installed on a pistol (for use when out of state). Is that true? Can you also own a suppressor that is NOT installed on a pistol?
1.) You may own a separated non-attached threaded bbl. Despite lack of constructive possession, I'd advise keeping them a bit separated and perhaps locking them separately when you travel out of state.

2.) A suppressor is that device whether or not it's attached to a gun. Normal souls can't legally get one in CA, and can't get a tax stamp from to even start the process. I'd advise not even having a few parts to build one (i.e, wipes, etc.)

I've heard rumors that some 'fake suppressors' may not be too fake, so I'd not own one unless it were a solid chunk of metal just bored out for bullet passage. And I take a dim view of fake 'cans' anyway: all they do is add weight to end of bbl that could be better spent by using a longer bbl w/rifling to get velocity - and it adds one more layer of complexity/ explanation on an OLL if in a traffic stop situation.
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I've read you can own a threaded barrel that is NOT installed on a pistol (for use when out of state). Is that true?
yes, there is no constructive possession laws for AWs.

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Check section 12500 of Cal. Penal code for the definition and 12520 for the penalty. 12520 PC says it is a felony to possess the silencer. I wouldn't do it.
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On guns, no silencers.
On cars, motorcycles, lawnmowers, and sometimes people - yes.
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Should be more often on some people...
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dont buy any unless you like getting reamed in the butt cuz your going to jail if you do!
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dont buy any unless you like getting reamed in the butt cuz your going to jail if you do!
lets not insinuate that it's even possible to illegally purchase one anyway. too many fake facts for obamathon to attach on to as it is.
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I believe that only Type 01 FFLs can own suppressors in CA. Last time I checked.
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On guns, no silencers.
On cars, motorcycles, lawnmowers, and sometimes people - yes.
there is no such thing as silencers. you can't effectively silence the weapon. you can effectively suppress it. therefore there are suppressors however.
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Personally I see the suppressor as a poor choice for home defense use.

It would add a significant amount of length and muzzle weight to the handgun.
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Personally I see the suppressor as a poor choice for home defense use.

It would add a significant amount of length and muzzle weight to the handgun.
I agree, however I do see how it could be of benefit to precision rifle shooters.
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I agree, however I do see how it could be of benefit to precision rifle shooters.
I fully agree with you on that.
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On guns, no silencers.
On cars, motorcycles, lawnmowers, and sometimes people - yes.
Most of the time just for people.I've never heard a car exhast that was too loud(with the exception of race cars),I agree with you about the motorcycles though,around here they're always louder than cars.

You gotta be kidding about lawn mowers though,they're never too loud unless your right next to one.
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Take the muffler off of your lawnmower once. It's very loud. Even with a muffler you should still wear hearing protection with a lawnmower as over time you will develop hearing damage.
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Take the muffler off of your lawnmower once. It's very loud. Even with a muffler you should still wear hearing protection with a lawnmower as over time you will develop hearing damage.
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Hi,
If legal, I'd like to install a sound suppressor on my 9mm for home defense use. There is a vendor online that sells threaded barrells for my Beretta.
Are sound suppressors legal in CA and are they easy to find/purchase?
Thanks.
NFA weapons and devices used for defense, home or otherwise, is a legal mess best avoided.

For all intents and purposes, you'll never get the state permit, which means you won't get the tax stamp, so spend your money on Thunder Ranch and practice ammo instead.
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I find it ironic that in California you cannot legally operate an automobile without a functional muffler, but cannot legally operate a firearm with a functional sound suppressor.
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I find it ironic that in California you cannot legally operate an automobile without a functional muffler, but cannot legally operate a firearm with a functional sound suppressor.
That't liberal politics for you at its best
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31 out of 50 states allow suppressors to be owned and used by individuals. There are 3-4 states that only allow SOTs to possess them (MI is one of them). It isn't just California; them and 18 more.
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I think its funny that if you go to some european countires they think it rude to fire your gun WITHOUT a sound supressor but in the US its considered outside the norm to even want an supressor...
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Like Finland. Their government encourages you to use suppressors.
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me i would want the noise so everyone can hear me shooting, they can call for help if i can make it to the phone someone will hear the shots and call for the backup
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Rifle suppressors should be legal in CA and it is only through ignorance in our capital that we are where we are currently. Rifle suppressors are a very useful addition to any long gun, especially bolt actions and it offers no additional risk to the public to allow common citizens to own these devices.......

When I've been out of state, I shoot a buddy's bolt action rifle with suppressor and it is a pleasure to shoot. After returning to a range here, it is even more painful to shoot next to someone with a muzzle brake knowing how it is in the majority of other states.....
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Rifle suppressors should be legal in CA and it is only through ignorance in our capital that we are where we are currently. Rifle suppressors are a very useful addition to any long gun, especially bolt actions and it offers no additional risk to the public to allow common citizens to own these devices.......

When I've been out of state, I shoot a buddy's bolt action rifle with suppressor and it is a pleasure to shoot. After returning to a range here, it is even more painful to shoot next to someone with a muzzle brake knowing how it is in the majority of other states.....

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From what I have heard, suppressors are illegal because they change the markings on the bullet that the barrel makes, thus making it harder for LE to ID what firearm fired a round if used in a crime.
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^^^^^^^^say what?????????????????? FUD
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Not FUD at all. If there is even the slightest hint of misalignment between the bore and the supressor, the bullet will assume machine marks from whatever it rubs-up against.
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I always thought suppressors were illegal because you could potentially shoot people without being noticed. i.e. I just watched a movie where the bad guys covertly took out the guards point blank without drawing any attention by using suppressed pistols.
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1.) You may own a separated non-attached threaded bbl. Despite lack of constructive possession, I'd advise keeping them a bit separated and perhaps locking them separately when you travel out of state.

2.) A suppressor is that device whether or not it's attached to a gun. Normal souls can't legally get one in CA, and can't get a tax stamp from to even start the process. I'd advise not even having a few parts to build one (i.e, wipes, etc.)
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Bill, since FOPA '86 a single suppressor part is considered an NFA weapon or device into and of itself -one wipe w/o a tax stamp would be the same as an unregistered can.
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I always thought suppressors were illegal because you could potentially shoot people without being noticed. i.e. I just watched a movie where the bad guys covertly took out the guards point blank without drawing any attention by using suppressed pistols.
Hollywood nonsense.

Even the best cans make noise, like The door of a Mercedes being shut.

Suppressors are scary to the people in charge, that is the sole reason that they are controlled items.
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Personally I see the suppressor as a poor choice for home defense use.

It would add a significant amount of length and muzzle weight to the handgun.
Yeah, but saving your hearing is a big plus. Not that a suppressor reduces the indoor blast enough to not cause hearing loss, but it's a lot better than no suppression.
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I always thought suppressors were illegal because you could potentially shoot people without being noticed. i.e. I just watched a movie where the bad guys covertly took out the guards point blank without drawing any attention by using suppressed pistols.
Hollywood is the single biggest threat to gun freedoms in the USA, and not because most of them are liberal gun control freaks.

It's because they spread extreme misinformation about guns to billions of viewers worldwide, most of whom are so gun-ignorant that they believe whatever they see.

At the very least, even if the movie directors portray guns accurately, they are causing serious problems by romanticizing the use of guns, such as making full-auto fire look super-scary and ridiculously common (ask real military and LEOs how often full-auto is actually used or useful, and they'll tell you "very rarely") or showing characters with inhuman accuracy.
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