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Old 12-18-2008, 7:27 PM
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The Calguns Foundation Announces Successful Defense
of John Contos of Sacramento-Based Sonoma Firearms

  • Case based on the incorrect theory that U-15 Stocks are
    “thumbhole” stocks (and/or constitute a pistol grip) is dismissed.


  • Improper prosecution brought by California Department of Justice
    Bureau of Firearms as retribution and regulatory over-reach.


December 18, 2008


(CALGUNS.NET) - Redwood City, CA – The Calguns Foundation (CGF) announces that it has again successfully defended an innocent person charged with violating California’s complex and overbearing firearms laws. The Solano County District Attorney’s office dismissed all charges in an Assault Weapon-related case in People v. Contos. John Contos, the proprietor of Sonoma Firearms, was charged based upon the theory that the California Rifles’ brand “U-15” stock constituted a thumbhole stock (or was in fact a pistol grip) - and was thus a feature triggering Assault Weapon status under California law.


Background: In June 2007, Mr. Contos was contacted by Supervisory Special Agent Ignatius Chinn of the California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms in relation to sales of off-list lower receivers for California-legal rifles. According to California law, the serialized “lower receivers” of rifles or pistols that might be considered “Assault Weapons” – and which are not specified by make and model – cannot be considered “Assault Weapons” unless they are specifically listed in California “Assault Weapons” law by make and model. Receivers not listed by make and model are known as “off-list”, and are perfectly legal to sell and possess.

However, even though these receivers are perfectly legal, it is still possible to create an illegal assault weapon by putting the wrong “accessories” on one of these receivers. One such accessory, which is prohibited, except under certain circumstances, is the “thumbhole stock.”

At the Solano County Gun Show in July 2007, Agent Chinn observed that Mr. Contos was selling off-list lower receivers configured with U-15 “butt stocks.” Agent Chinn claimed such stocks were “thumbhole stocks” that could make these receivers into “Assault Weapons” by having certain feature configurations that are prohibited. As there is actually no “hole” in a U-15 stock, this position was at best specious. Later that summer, Agent Chinn obtained and served a warrant based on the “thumbhole stock” theory and seized numerous firearms - including handguns and various rifles having no relationship to this dispute.


The Case: The Calguns Foundation retained the Law Offices of Don Kilmer to defend Mr. Contos. After passage of many months and no prosecution was forthcoming, Mr. Kilmer began the civil process of demanding the return of Mr. Contos’ property. After being stonewalled by the Bureau of Firearms, Mr. Kilmer filed a Tort Claims Act claim for the return of all property as well as compensation for business interruption. Just as the window for a response to the Tort Claims Act claim was to expire, the Bureau of Firearms persuaded a Solano County District Attorney to bring criminal charges (in June 2008), claiming that Mr. Contos was guilty of offering to sell illegal Assault Weapons.

After reviewing the proposed testimony of the State’s expert (Agent Chinn) the Solano County DA had the courage to admit that he could not meet the burden of proving that a U-15-equipped rifle or receiver was an Assault Weapon. With the case’s dismissal, Mr. Contos looks forward to the prompt return of his property. The Foundation was prepared, if necessary, to secure expert testimony from topologists (mathematicians specializing in the fields of surfaces and shapes) relating to the design of the U-15 stock and its not possessing a “thumbhole”.

The Calguns Foundation remains concerned the Bureau of Firearms has shown a pattern of using the criminal courts to extract retribution against adversaries and quash dissent about their overbroad view of the law. Bureau of Firearms has - on multiple occasions - instigated criminal charges as it became clear that they would be required to return property by civil action. Additionally, the Bureau of Firearms continues to attempt to use the criminal courts to expand the regulatory reach of the Assault Weapon laws. This is contrary to California law. This pattern and practice of charging citizens with a crimes for the purpose of exploring the regulatory boundaries of a fundamental right are extremely troubling and may require redress.

CGF offers its congratulations and thanks to John Contos for his support and patience during this arduous process. Mr. Contos has been a strong personal supporter of the Calguns community, even as this process has exacted real costs to him. Thanks also to The Law Offices of Don Kilmer for their excellent work on this case to date.

Also, CGF offers its congratulations to Grant Early, inventor of the California Rifles U-15 stock, upon having it clearly deemed to be neither a thumbhole stock nor a pistol grip.

Please consider a donation to offset the legal fees and other costs that The Calguns Foundation bore in this case - and which it continues to bear in order to defend other cases. Your donations are likely to be tax deductible, as The Calguns Foundation expects to be obtaining 501(c)(3) tax-deductible status. You can donate (at http://calgunsfoundation.org/main/index.php/donate) via check, credit card, homebanking payments, and Paypal.

The Calguns Foundation expects to see this case through to a final and satisfactory conclusion for both Mr. Contos and the California sport shooting community.


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Good news. I hope this continues and that rights in California can be reclaimed.
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It seems like everytime I loose hope about gun laws and our politicians the CGF wins a lawsuit or helps someone in need. Good work.
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This was my favorite part!
No need to pay for "experts". I just showed my wife a U-15 stock and she said, "so where is the hole?".
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So... will U-15 stocks now come with a DOJ dis-approval letter?
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Haven't heard anything about Iggy in a while. So this is what he's been up to lately? Taking a break from shooting up desks?

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This one feels extra good, now we must help John get his property back!
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No need to pay for "experts". I just showed my wife a U-15 stock and she said, "so where is the hole?".
Just goes to show you either the level of intelligence or malevolence of the DOJ....or both.
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I would like to know if the property taken has ever been returned. You may recall The Stanislaus county case of Sierra Shooting Sports in Modesto. The Madison Society listed me as "Joe Gun Guy", yes we won but had none of our property returned to us. Not only has it not been returned, we have heard nothing from the DOJ.
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I would like to know if the property taken has ever been returned. You may recall The Stanislaus county case of Sierra Shooting Sports in Modesto. The Madison Society listed me as "Joe Gun Guy", yes we won but had none of our property returned to us. Not only has it not been returned, we have heard nothing from the DOJ.
Have you made a demand? There is no statute of limitations for wrongfully held personal property.
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Congratulations to all involved.

I now feel even more confident using my U-15 stocked OLL.

Another check to CGF on it's way.

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This is just the beginning. There is so much we have in the pipeline. 2009 will be an interesting year!

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how about going further and file criminal charge of domestic law terrorism of CA BF. They won't stop if we don't start bringing this to national attention. i think they brass needs to be named by person in suit and keem em in courts.
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