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Old 10-07-2017, 9:02 AM
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Default Great Article by Peggy Noonan in WSJ

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Old 10-07-2017, 9:26 AM
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You can find it here if you don't want to subscibe to the WSJ
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Old 10-07-2017, 11:42 AM
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Thanks for the link. Yes, an excellent article! She nailed it!
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Old 10-07-2017, 1:56 PM
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Shes a tack driver with that article. When I was younger I never understood what it meant to possess a firearm, let alone have the maturity to understand the need to protect myself and family from what was lurking outside of our door.

I'll be honest -- firearm ownership for me reinforced the sense of responsibility and purpose behind why I take tremendous pride in serving my community, within or outside my home. Firearm ownership has allowed friends and family to level the playing field and refuse to play victim. There's no such thing as a utopia and evil people walk amongst us, and until our handlers decide to get in touch with the very people they nanny, those who infringe on our right to preserve life and freedom will be dealt with handily.
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Old 10-07-2017, 2:41 PM
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Nice. "Our country’s real overlords are in Silicon Valley and appear to be moral Martians...."
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Old 10-08-2017, 8:59 AM
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I always love how everyone thinks an armed populous "doesnt stand a chance" against the police/our army/someone elses army when one sniper can kill nearly 60 people.

Its true we cant do much vs nukes but that's one hell of a Pyrrhic victory for who ever tries it. In a conventional war though, we have the advantage.

That being said we cant win without a sense of community, which is what this article is mainly addressing. And Noonan's right. Rebuilding our camaraderie and respect for each other while actually taking the time to shake off the evil thats become so popular in all forms of media(art, literature, movies, etc) is pretty much the only thing that will stop most of this insanity.
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Old 10-08-2017, 9:27 AM
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Originally Posted by smokehammer View Post
I always love how everyone thinks an armed populous "doesnt stand a chance" against the police/our army/someone elses army when one sniper can kill nearly 60 people.
Yep, tell these guys civilians don't stand a chance.

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Old 10-08-2017, 10:07 AM
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John Ross "Unintended Consequences" is kind of a how-to manual.
It's also a pretty good read.
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:03 PM
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All well and good, but she forgot to add something, and I can tell you as a public school teacher, that we hold as much of the responsibility as anything.

From Washington’s farewell address.

Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of men and citizens. The mere politician, equally with the pious man, ought to respect and to cherish them. A volume could not trace all their connections with private and public felicity. Let it simply be asked: Where is the security for property, for reputation, for life, if the sense of religious obligation desert the oaths which are the instruments of investigation in courts of justice ? And let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds of peculiar structure, reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.

It is substantially true that virtue or morality is a necessary spring of popular government. The rule, indeed, extends with more or less force to every species of free government. Who that is a sincere friend to it can look with indifference upon attempts to shake the foundation of the fabric?
See, all the gun laws in the world, in fact complete ban on all gun ownership, won’t stop violence. And it certainly won’t stop mass murder, especially when the state has all the guns.

There’s plenty of shooting in Mexico and other countries where firearm ownership is severely curtailed. Drug lords get whatever they need.

Schools and in fact all public institutions have actively worked to remove and attack religion at all times and places. (Not not ALL religions, just the one that western liberal democratic traditions are based upon).
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Old 10-08-2017, 12:48 PM
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Because to our friends on the Left it's all about one thing - power. And who controls it. And because they lack the b*lls (or integrity) to come out and say so, they deflect as much as they can.

If our schools did a good job on basic civics, guys like Bernie Sanders would get laughed out of the room.
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Old 10-08-2017, 4:33 PM
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Hell of an article. I've always liked Peggy Noonan
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