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Old 10-16-2017, 6:02 PM
USStanley USStanley is offline
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Default AR De-featured, Air Rifles - Winchester and Walther, in Berkeley, no shipping

This is in Berkeley, CA. You know, the People's Republic!

Private party transfer at an FFL dealer located conveniently for both parties. These deals are intended for the Bay Area, if you happen to be too far from it, I can't meet you half way, sorry, no shipping either.

Please read the whole thing before writing me or making an offer or agreeing to buy an item.

No trades: I'm (reluctantly) selling some of my guns, because I need space in my safe, and I need the money, so a trade will not fit in my plans at this time, sorry. Please note that I reduced somewhat the prices since I first posted the ad, this is the first, last and only price reduction, I won't go any lower, please don't ask. I'm not selling these rifles because I don't like them or because there's something wrong with them, I just want to put some order in my safe and in my finances, I don't mind if they don't sell, I like them, they're classics!

Guns that are pending sale will be immediately marked (SPT) meaning Sold Pending Transfer. Guns sold will be marked (SOLD) , then removed from the list when I get the time. If the deal falls through, I remove the note(s).

If an item doesn't have either of the above two notes/marks, it is still available. First "I'll take it/the..." followed by an E-mail or Private Message gets it, pending their approval on inspection and successful transfer. If you decide to buy something and so indicate by posting "I'll take it" and sending me an E-mail or Private Message, please follow up with contacting me within 24 hours for meeting arrangements, transfer, place, time, etc. If you do so and we have a meeting arranged, I'll mark the item (SPT) otherwise I'll continue the ad and take the next offer that leads to a meeting arrangement.

NOTE: The "rules" and documentation needs below aren't my rules or "Berkeley" rules, they're what we're being subjected to by Sacramento, if you think you know the rules and have done transfers recently, skip over please, directly to the listed items, otherwise please read, it may come in handy to know them.

And, after two recent botched P2P FFL dealer transfer attempts, I see myself obliged to ask that you have prepared and in your possession all the documents necessary to complete a PPT transaction when we meet at an FFL dealer, when an FFL transfer is required. See check-list below and please don't mind if you already know all these, my experience shows that even people who know everything, may forget or overlook something:

1. Valid, current, unexpired California ID or Driver's License
2. Secondary proof of CA residence (utility bill, or rental contract, or vehicle registration, all in your name).
3. Firearms Safety Certificate by the DOJ, available from dealers or on-line, see California DOJ site. They're now for both long and short guns, valid 5 yrs. A pox on both their houses!
4. If you declare you have a firearms safe, know the make and model of it, or be ready to bring a Cal. DOJ approved lock when you pick up the firearm.
5. Depending on jurisdiction (town) and dealer, you may have to bring a locking case when picking up handguns, after the 10 days - ask the dealer.

Once more, for all items below, and all items in any of my threads, I'm in Berkeley, California, and I'm not moving, and I'm not shipping. If an item needs an FFL dealer transfer, will meet at a dealer conveniently located, distance wise, for both of us, providing you're somewhere in the Greater Bay Area (from Fairfield to San Jose and from San Francisco to Livermore) and not beyond. Buyer pays the transfer fee.

AR-15, one rifle, configured either as regular carbine ("assault rifle") that will have to be registered as such next year (2017) or as "featureless" semiautomatic rifle with detachable magazine of 10 rounds, legal to keep and transfer next year, but not to modify back to "assault rifle" features, which will be construed as "manufacturing an assault rifle" a punishable offense. PLEASE NOTE that I'm not an attorney, don't give legal advice, I can only tell you my understanding of these new laws, if you want/need more precise legal advice, read the laws and/or consult an attorney. Then it will be up to you what you want to do, register with an "assault rifle" or keep it featureless and don't have to do anything other than normal transfer. See photos below, same rifle configured in both styles. I can transfer it to you in either configuration (now only feature-less!) and you can keep the rest of the parts for when these laws will be declared unconstitutional, if ever! The price for the ONE rifle, with all the parts you see is $800, cash, firm, costed me more to put it together, but this is it now. Other info:

Lower by Aero Precision - AP 15
Upper, with rail - YHM (Yankee Hill Machine) simple, no un-jamming lever provision, no eject port flip-down cover installed.
Barrel, 16" - generic/brand unknown
Muzzle Brake (muzzle brake and crush washer are in place) NOT a flash hider (one of the "features" that makes an "assault rifle").
Stock, collapsible - generic (will deliver, and pistol grip, but beginning 2017, in California, it is against the law to attach them to the rifle.
Trigger group, hammer, etc - generic
[B]"Bullet Button" - generic, standard
Stock, "featureless" by Thordsen Customs
Tube Cover by Thordsen Customs
Quad Rail grip with rail covers
Scope 4X by TruGlo w/illuminated reticle red/green w/Lithium battery
Iron Sights rail mounted at 45 degrees, machined aluminum, brand unknown, flips between peep hole and ghost ring
Magazine Well extension for quickly inserting the magazine, by RHINO
Magazine, 10 rd by ASC

If interested to get the rifle in the AR configuration, you need to get it this year (2016! - GONE now!) with time to spare for transfer. Beginning with December 20, I will only transfer the "featureless" configuration and the rest as parts, ALL THIS IS NOW HISTORY, IT'S March, 2017, so FEATURE-LESS it is! still $800



AR-15 Aero Precision (AP 15) w/"Bullet Button" (now history!) or Configured "feature-less" $800 cash,firm.

Please note
that I'll consider selling separately but at the same time, the lower with all the lower parts listed (AR and "feature-less") and the upper with all the parts listed, $400 each, cash, firm. One tentative buyer for the lower receiver exists already, if someone wants the upper please PM me to arrange pick-up, no FFL needed, the upper is all parts and no serial number, etc.

Also, see this Calguns page/flowchart for reference: http://www.calguns.net/caawid/flowchart.pdf

Next: Two nice air rifles, Winchester MOD-427 caliber 5.5/.22, made by Diana in Germany and Walther Force 1000 (1000 FPS) in 1.77 caliber 4.4/.177 > NOTE, these are powerful air rifles, not toys, and one needs to be 18 or older to buy one from me, I won't pass them on to a minor, sorry for the inconvenience, if any.

Description and photo below.

The Winchester Mod 427, same as Diana Model 27, made in the 60's, exact year is on the cylinder somewhere under the stock, and I didn't disassemble it. I bought it almost new, surely unused, because it had the rear sight busted, still is. I oiled it and fitted it with a makeshift aluminum leaf-sight, just to adjust it and try it and it works fine. One can make a better sight or find an original, I have the parts of the one that was on it, some parts are made of plastic and one (actually the very support of the sight) has a broken ear. Some screw may be missing. It's an excellent rifle, these aren't being made or imported any longer. It's supposed to shoot at 660 FPS, Price is $200, cash, firm, only because of the rear sight, if complete it would be much more. Send PM if interested, and post "Will take the Winchester Air if you're sure. Pick up in Berkeley

The Walther is of recent fabrication, comes with original box and 4X32 scope already attached by me - I bought it new from Big 5. I know a fellow that gets wild turkeys with one of these, but, then, he's a sharpshooter by training and gets them in the head! Comes with original box and papers, price is $110, cash, firm. That's what I paid for it, plus tax, which you don't need to pay. Send PM if interested. Pick up in Berkeley.

Please don't offer less, I can wait, or I can keep them, they're nice to have.

I have an open can of pellets each to give for each rifle, if I find more I'll give you one more each, unopened, but can't guarantee, I had to move my stuff and everything is hidden somewhere.

Both rifles were only used by me to set the sight and scope, I used a couple of phone Yellow Pages books as backdrop or trap, and I can vouch that, by the time I was done with them, the phone books were stone-cold dead! All joking aside, by the penetration in the phone books I can tell you they'll kill small animals or birds with reasonably good shot placement. Please understand that these are "adult toys" and, if bough for a minor, they need to be used only with adult supervision. They're not to be confused with "BB" guns, they're much more powerful air pellet rifles.


Winchester MOD-427 and Walther Force 1000 Air Rifles, $200 and $110 Respectively

Still in Berkeley, CA

Please don't answer in the thread, unless it's to say "I'll take it" and whatever it is you're taking, mostly for others to see, we don't see your comment unless we visit the thread. For other answers, offers, advice, observations or snide remarks, please use Private message or E-mail. Thread comments aren't forwarded by Calguns to our E-mail address, private messages are.

Thank you for reading all this,

Chris
in Berkeley, of course.

Last edited by USStanley; 10-16-2017 at 7:05 PM.. Reason: correction
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