California State Parks

[glockman19]

This looks like a regulation ripe to fall:

California State Parks rules and regulations

4313. Weapons and Traps.
No person shall carry, possess, or discharge across, in or into any portion of any unit any weapon, firearm, box and arrow, trap, net, or device capable of injuring, or killing any person or animal, or capturing any animal, or damaging any public or private property, except where the Department of Parks and Recreation finds that it is in its best interests. Nothing herein contained shall be construed in derogation of the use of weapons permitted by law or regulation and to be used for hunting in a unit, or portion thereof, open to hunting. Firearms not having a cartridge in any portion of the mechanism, traps, nets, bows and arrows, other unloaded weapons or devices may be possessed within temporary lodging or mechanical mode of conveyance when such implements are rendered temporarily inoperable or are packed, cased, or stored in a manner that will prevent their ready use.

So Not only do the Police and all LEO have NO OBLIGATION for my protection I'm no allowed to protect myself, even against nature. They make a crime "any and all devices capable of injuring or killing any person or animal..." meaning just about anything that can be uesd as a blunt instrument is against regulation.

Who writes this crap?

I guess the Department of Parks and Recreation finds that it is in it's best interests to violate both my state and national rights to carry... and wouldn't a state park regardless of location be in "unincorporated territory" making it OK for Loaded open carry?

[Firblitz]

IANAL, but I would think that this is going to help change it.

Since CA state parks doesn't equal national parks, the above change in policy plus a Nordyke win should seal the deal.

[Doheny]

CCW is permitted in CA State Parks.



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[Librarian]

See also the CCW in Nat'l Parks thread.

[yellowfin]

Originally Posted by Doheny

CCW is permitted in CA State Parks..

Unless the specific country prohibits it, and many do. Every time I go to any of the Santa Clara county ones I am promptly reminded that I live in the evil empire. It doesn't get any more blatant than having no weapons notices directly above mountain lion warnings--that is just how screwed up this place is.

[glockman19]

Originally Posted by Librarian

See also the CCW in Nat'l Parks thread.

National Parks very different than State Parks. Also, Since CA does NOT have reciprocity with any other states even an out of state CCW holder CAN NOT carry concealed in National Parks in California.

[Ironchef]

Originally Posted by Doheny

CCW is permitted in CA State Parks.
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Are you serious? I knew about federal parks, but thought I heard state parks didn't allow it. I'm going to go to Konocti Harbor near Clear Lake on 1/1/09 to go shooting with some friends and family and I had just assumed LOC was the only option. Heck, i might try out my new belly band and CCW a little! I'd love to see a citation if there is one.

[Doheny]

Originally Posted by Ironchef

...I'd love to see a citation if there is one.

Taken from calccw. They wrote the person in charge for state park public safety and he gave them a written reply.

http://www.calccw.com/Forums/where-c...tate-park.html


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[Ironchef]

so that appears to only allow cops and ccw holders..not regular visitors wishing to cc. or did i read that wrong.

[Librarian]

Originally Posted by glockman19

National Parks very different than State Parks. Also, Since CA does NOT have reciprocity with any other states even an out of state CCW holder CAN NOT carry concealed in National Parks in California.

True, but the thread immediately drifted to CA State Parks.