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MAGA here in Commiefornia?

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Can we see if we can get our legal teams to test the waters on "sanctuary homes", "sanctuary vehicles", "sanctuary roads" and "sanctuary ranges"? If our state government gets to ignore laws they don't like, why can't we?
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This law was unlawful beyond the 2nd.
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This combined with OAL rejecting AW regulations is bitter sweet news with SCOTUS letting us drown Monday by not hearing peruta. I fear this is a short term win, 9CA will Reverse the block
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Does this mean it will be legal to buy mags with 10+ now or does it mean that those already in possession of 10+ mags don't have to cap them or get rid of them?
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Great news, it buys time for hopefully a new Supreme Court appointment.
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This combined with OAL rejecting AW regulations is bitter sweet news with SCOTUS letting us drown Monday by not hearing permits. I fear this is a short term win, 9CA will lift the injunction
Have hope bro, Peruta was not the best case and others are being groomed. The 9th will act but it will most certainly go to SCOTUS eventually. Positive thinking!
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I feel bad for those of you who blocked your mags in anticipation of this law.
You mean like the number of magazines turned in to the city of Los Angeles when they enacted their ban a few years ago?

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Does this mean it will be legal to buy mags with 10+ now or does it mean that those already in possession of 10+ mags don't have to cap them or get rid of them?
It means the status quo stays the same for now, people already in possession don't have to get rid of them.

However, in reading the injunction, it seems plausible this judge has issues with the 10+ ban in it's entirety, although that isn't the issue being addressed in the case.
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so what does this mean for now? Can we continue to use our grandfathered mags? Or does it mean we now purchase those 10+ mags???
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This stacked with no sanctuary city funding is just making my day..Bigley
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so what does this mean for now? Can we continue to use our grandfathered mags? Or does it mean we now purchase those 10+ mags???
Two weeks. Back into limbo unfortunately. I would keep them but not use them in public yet.
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Please consider donating to CRPA or NRA-ILA, both put a lot of work into this victory. I am donating to both.
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Have hope bro, Peruta was not the best case and others are being groomed. The 9th will act but it will most certainly go to SCOTUS eventually. Positive thinking!
Your right, we should stay optimistic, a win is a win. Just feels like when we take 1 step forward they throw us 10 steps back.
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I will be sending the CRPA another donation tomorrow!

The 9th will more than likely reverse this decision, but that's OK.

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Page 23: "...the Attorney General has submitted at this preliminary stage incomplete studies from unreliable sources upon which experts base speculative explanations and predictions."

- is this the shoddy work of Kamala Harris - the Dem's new star?
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Please consider donating to CRPA or NRA-ILA, both put a lot of work into this victory. I am donating to both.
Seems like the CGF one went nowhere in the Eastern District. CRPA/NRA-IL/Michel delivers.
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Holy ****. And from a judge in SoCal? I'm
Literally speechless. I'll have a 2 and maybe even a 3rd Jameson at dinner tonight. Great news!
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Judge Roger Benitez was born in Havana, Cuba and nominated to the the 9th circus court by George W. Bush. This will probably be overturned by some Obama nominees.

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I completely did not anticipate this. Saw this on the news today. Woot!
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It won't last in the 9th circuit, but a temporary win nonetheless.

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If you're happy about the injunction win and being able to keep your standard capacity magazines past July 1st you need to donate now!!
This is a great win but it's still a long fight and fighting for YOUR RIGHTS costs money.

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Sooooooo if someone had one could they use it
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Well that's good. I feel bad for those of you who blocked your mags in anticipation of this law.
Why feel bad for them?

Your 10+ mags are still not protected from over zealous LE Agencies and the Politician's Agendas that they pay homage to, by intentionally misreading existing statutes. So they can steal your SC mags and claim they are a nuisance without you first being enjoined by a DA. Which directly removes your right to "Due Process"
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If only they could apply the same logic to the AW registration fiasco. Making criminals out of thousands of Californians. And while they're at it, just do away with the online ammo ban. They could possibly throw in the 10 day wait, the roster and a few other choice bits since they're in the mood.
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Page 23: "...the Attorney General has submitted at this preliminary stage incomplete studies from unreliable sources upon which experts base speculative explanations and predictions."

- is this the shoddy work of Kamala Harris - the Dem's new star?
No, it's the new AG Becerra.
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Why feel bad for them?

Your 10+ mags are still not protected from over zealous LE Agencies and the Politician's Agendas that they pay homage to, by intentionally misreading existing statutes. So they can steal your SC mags and claim they are a nuisance without you first being enjoined by a DA. Which directly removes your right to "Due Process"
You feel bad because people wanted to follow the law and didn't think there was enough time left, especially if you had alot. I only have a few from those days so I was lucky.
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It may be short lived, but I'm so used to seeing bad news about the revocation of our 2nd Amendment rights in this state it's a pleasure to see even a small piece of good news!
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