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Old 03-20-2009, 11:35 AM
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Default FS 2000 is 'a well oiled sewing machine"

Saterday I took my FS 2000 to the Angeles shooting range in the mountains North of Los Angeles. Upon squeezing my first shot off, I immediately noticed the long trigger pull of the composite trigger group. Hammer disconnect felt crisp and clean. The recoil was minimal although i did notice a differnce in muzzle climb based on how I positioned my left hand on the forward grip.

My first goal was to sight in my eotech 557 with the 4X magnifier. I started at 25 yards and had a 1 inch group by the time I had squeezed off 9 rounds. I had to adjust elevation down and windage to the left about 3 MOA each. Then at the next line brake I bumped the target out to 100 yards. I readjusted windage back 1 MOA to the left and Elivatation 1/2 MOA up. At this point I was hitting 3 MOA consistantly. For those learning, 3 MOA means all shots hit within a 3 inch group of my point of aim at 100 yards, (1 MOA = 1" at 100 yds). New Rifle and new optics so still getting use to both.

After letting my buddy shoot this bad boy he was quoted as saying that the thing fires like "a well oiled sewing machine". I agreed, it was very controlable and felt good shooting with a clean ergonomic design. The problem of hight of cheek weld was not a major issue with my jaw structure I was able to cheet it up just a hair. The thing I was having problems with was the eotech. If I didnt have my eye sighted exactly down the middle of the sight , then I notice a doble image of the center dot on the reticle... I dont know, but it was a bit annoying. I think maybe batteries. Overall I would rate this rifle at a 10+ all the way around.

Got tones of looks, but no one bugged me because they saw I was busy sighting in. Of all the ranges I have been to this range has the nicest selection of modern cal legal military rifles so it is great to see who's got what. Basically a fashon show for fire arms in So Cal with real shooting going on at the same time.

FS 2000 looks and shoots awesome !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Two thumbs up...

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Congrats, man! Yeah, I had the same problem with the Eotech, and I also have it with my ACOG. Both give double-reticles at certain angles with my right eye only. Opthamologists have told me I have very slight astigmatism in my right eye, and since my left eye is crisp on both the Eotech and ACOG no matter where my cheekweld lies with my left eye, I believe it's my right eye and not the scopes.

Others have also reported that Eotechs are very sensitive to astigmatism, however slight.

So, 3MOA for you too? What type of ammo were you using? Knowing that others have hit sub-MOA with this rifle bugs me...
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Wow, astigmatism hey! I always thought I had good vision. Just when I get some kick *** rifle with kick *** optics, I'm faced with this. I guess I will have to eat more carets lol.

I was shooting U.S. Military surplus 62 grain green tipped ammo. You have probably seen this stuff at the gun shows. Little bit heavier than the standard 55 grain tip of most surplus.

Have you heard the ideal grain ammo for 1/7 twist? My Smith and Wesson M&P15 which is their version of the AR, has a 1/9 twist and seems to like this 62 grain stuff. My Mini 14...well we wont go there. I cant remember the rule, something about the greater the twist the heaver the round for the best accuracy or is it the opposite? I know there are other things at play that factor in as well.

Any way wile I was at the range that day I took my LRB M14/M25 in a JAE-100 gen I stock with a U.S. Optics ST-22 scope to sight it in as well. I love U.S. Optics, but the minute I got with in 4 MOA the reticle had moved from vertical to the 1:30 position in the scope. Fortunately they are in Orange County about 40 minutes from me, but this is the second time this has happened. Any way just venting ... I was frustrated at the range, but then just switched back to the FS 2000 and all my problems were forgotten .

Really like the handling of the FS 2000. I bet we could get within sub MOA with the right ammo, but what is the right ammo?
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Old 03-24-2009, 10:51 AM
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LOVE the handling of the FS2000. You made a great choice!

We could talk with Jicko about it--he's been working up a recipe for 77gr ammo. I've got a bunch of FMJBT 62gr Prvi on order and plan on trying HPBT 69gr match-grade Prvi as soon as they get it back in stock. I don't know about the perfect weight for 1/7 (there's a formula floating around here somewhere), but I do know that 1/7 was chosen for the M855 62gr green tips you spoke of and that 55gr is too light for 1/7.

No worries about the astigmatism--it can be a very tiny one. I don't notice mine except when using magnification.

We should probably start asking around at fnforum.net to see who's figured out what the best ammo is for our FS2000s.
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Have had my FS2000 for 2 months now and really dislike the barrel extension that LanWorld supplies with it. So I ordered up a FAL "Freddy Brake" for the .308 http://smileybrake.com/prod_fal.html Thanks for the links in the previous page DChang.
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And one for Saiga 12 since there are soo many Saiga 12's out there now!
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Have had my FS2000 for 2 months now and really dislike the barrel extension that LanWorld supplies with it. So I ordered up a FAL "Freddy Brake" for the .308 http://smileybrake.com/prod_fal.html Thanks for the links in the previous page DChang.
Glad to help! BTW, don't use the set screw to secure the Freddy Brake. It will scratch your barrel. Blue Loctite Threadlocker works perfectly and is relatively easy to remove later.
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Old 06-23-2009, 8:33 AM
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please attach something tacticool to the rail.. take pic.. post on calguns
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No offense to anyone but IMO all FS2000s are Fugly. I'd take any ole beat up AR over that any day.
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Question.

Would it be possible to manufacture some type of barrel extension instead of using an elongated muzzle device or a fake suppressor? Not like the LanWorld extension, though.

Something like these:

http://www.riflegear.com/p-562-raddl...tension-3.aspx

http://www.riflegear.com/p-563-raddl...tension-2.aspx

I'd really like to have something along those lines be made available, in two lengths. One that allows the minimuim length without a muzzle device, and another that requires the muzzle device to be pinned.

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Old 06-27-2009, 7:14 AM
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Question.

Would it be possible to manufacture some type of barrel extension instead of using an elongated muzzle device or a fake suppressor? Not like the LanWorld extension, though.

Something like these:

http://www.riflegear.com/p-562-raddl...tension-3.aspx

http://www.riflegear.com/p-563-raddl...tension-2.aspx

I'd really like to have something along those lines be made available, in two lengths. One that allows the minimuim length without a muzzle device, and another that requires the muzzle device to be pinned.

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I spoke with Raddlock on doing that, and because the FS2000's flash hider is blind pinned and not just twist-off, they have decided to go with the fits-over-the-factory-flash-hider design. Not everyone is willing to drill/cut up their factory flash hider.

Besides, if a FS2000 owner is willing to go that far, they then could buy any muzzle brake/flash hider they want that brings the OAL over 30", though there aren't many to choose from.

The FS2000's barrel is already over the 16" federal length requirement, so there is no need to pin any muzzle device at all. Why did FN pin the factory flash hider in the first place, then? The guys at FNforum.net think that it may have been to meet import requirements.

You would only need one length of barrel extension: it would have 9/16-24 lefthand female threads on one end and 1/2-28 righthand male threads on the other, and it would be maybe about 1.25" long. Most AR-type muzzle devices could then be used, and the overall length of the FS2000 would be just barely over 30".

There is already a company willing to make such a barrel extension--the guys at The Riddle of Steel (trosusa.com) will do it as a custom job.

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does that radlock pic-rail cover get in the way if you are shooting the FS2k left handed? i'm a lefty and wondering.....
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Glad to help! BTW, don't use the set screw to secure the Freddy Brake. It will scratch your barrel. Blue Loctite Threadlocker works perfectly and is relatively easy to remove later.
Ya I didn't use that set screw. The Brake fit tightly and was clocked perfectly. Thanks for the tip.
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Old 07-17-2009, 3:25 AM
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Rockin! Glad it worked out for you. I am so lovin' my Freddy Brake--it really works wonders for such a primitive design.
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I have an fs2000. I need a phone number or address where to get the necessary hardware to fix it
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Old 07-17-2009, 11:22 AM
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Check out FNForum.net. There's a few threads with a contact name and phone #'s. There's also quite a few part #'s scattered around.
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Found this info in a sticky.


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FNH Parts : 1-800-635-1321


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Piston Part# BFS2000032

Gas Rings Part# BFS2000033

Handguard Part# BFS2000056

Switch Part# BFS2000058

Firing Pin Part# BFS2000061

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Well, I hate to necropost - but has radd got any closer to being able to market his maglock package?

Hoping to pick up an FS2000 for christmas, would be great if I could buy a raddlock to go with it.

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Old 11-14-2009, 9:16 PM
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LOL--it all depends on the backorder list for the AR Raddlock. The reason they weren't producing FS2000 Raddlocks was that they couldn't retool their machines in the middle of filling the huge orders for AR Raddlocks (post-election-craze).

Things may have quieted down now, so why don't you PM Radd to see if he could retool and crank out enough FS2000 Raddlocks for everyone who's been so patiently waiting?

Till then, you can still go featureless OR go single-shot "bolt action," the latter of which is ridiculously easy. Just take out the gas piston knob OR the gas piston itself using the special tool that came with your FS2000. The instructions are right there in the manual.
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Old 11-14-2009, 9:46 PM
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LOL--it all depends on the backorder list for the AR Raddlock. The reason they weren't producing FS2000 Raddlocks was that they couldn't retool their machines in the middle of filling the huge orders for AR Raddlocks (post-election-craze).

Things may have quieted down now, so why don't you PM Radd to see if he could retool and crank out enough FS2000 Raddlocks for everyone who's been so patiently waiting?

Till then, you can still go featureless OR go single-shot "bolt action," the latter of which is ridiculously easy. Just take out the gas piston knob OR the gas piston itself using the special tool that came with your FS2000. The instructions are right there in the manual.
That was plan B. Sent henderson defense an email this afternoon asking if they would like to perform such a service before it got shipped in state.

Will still send Radd a pm though.

Thanks dchang - and thats one sexy ****** gun you got there.
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bump... any more news on the FS2000 Raddlocks?
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Last I spoke with Raddlock, they were getting their instruction manual for the FS2000's installation done up. This was a week ago. They are about to ship to fill the orders in the backlog.
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The FS2000 rifle with 2k price tag is not really flying off the shelves.

No demands from the dealers to stock this item, unless they've got rifles.

If you need one, then please pm me. It looks like it will be a custom order item.













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Thanks for the great info some of you really went to town to explain things, the one i looked at last week does not need a fake can to make it 30" i believe FN has extended the muzzle brake by half an inch to push it over the 30" barrier required here. I say this as the one in the 09 catalogue has a shorter muzzle brake than the one i had hold of which had a traditional bird cage style brake. Anyway im sold on getting one thanks to just about all of you.
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Sorry to necropost, but there's some news on this front.

I've heard now that the Freddy Brake is no longer in production, so we need alternatives to getting the overall length up over 30". I've found two companies that are a company willing to make custom thread adapters from 9/16"-24 lefthand to 1/2"-28 righthand so that you can use any typical AR muzzle device. These companies areThe company is silencerresearch.com (talk to John) and trosusa.com (talk to Mark). They quoted me $45 and $60 respectively, but this was months ago, and the price may depend on whether or not a thread protector is included (which we obviously don't need).

These adapters add 0.75" to 1" to the barrel length, so any A2-length muzzle brake should be able to barely make the 30" overall length requirement. Of course, why take the risk when there are so many medium-length AR muzzle devices out there that would put it past 30.5" or even 32" like the super-long SJC Titan brake?

As of this writing, Silencer Research is backlogged on a bigger project, so TROS may be the way to go for the adapter. If anyone orders one, please let us know how you like the adapter. My guess is that the TROS adapter will be made of harder steel because it is cut from hexagonal bar stock.

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EDIT: See post 75 for more info on why TROS was removed as a suggestion.

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Dchang0, great and timely post.

I have a FS2000 on the 10 day wait and am looking for a brake to comply with the OAL so I can lose the fake can.

My concern with using "standard" AR brakes would be having them slide back far enough over the barrel to cover the far notch on the barrel.
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You just cost me 2k. Shame on you!
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Dchang0, great and timely post.

I have a FS2000 on the 10 day wait and am looking for a brake to comply with the OAL so I can lose the fake can.

My concern with using "standard" AR brakes would be having them slide back far enough over the barrel to cover the far notch on the barrel.
I hear ya--that notch sho is ugly.

Unfortunately, not even the Freddy Brake with its super-long skirt (about half the length of the brake) covers up that notch (for other readers: the notch we're talking about is where a second pin was supposed to go through the factory flash hider).

The Surefire MB556AR has a longer 2.75" skirt on it, but due to the thread adapter, it will also be too short to cover the notch. Without the thread adapter (and re-threading of the barrel to 1/2"-28), it'd probably cover the notch but would be too short to make 30" overall length.

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I've contacted Mark at TROSusa.com again, and like last time, he responded immediately that yes, he'd be happy to make a custom thread adapter for us. Price is $68 including shipping, which was the same as last time ($60 + $8). He says the turnaround is 4 weeks.

SilencerResearch.com was going to produce a small run for us and post up the part on their website, which is different than TROS's one-off approach, but again, they're stuck in a bigger project that's tied up all their machines.

I'll order the TROS unit and report back on its dimensions, etc.

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So who here is looking to sell theirs yet?
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Well, so far, no good on the order from TROS USA. It's been eight weeks since I sent in payment, and nothing. I emailed at the four week mark and was told it would take another two weeks due to a backlog, and my email at the six week mark got no reply.

So I've asked for a refund. At this time, I recommend that you do not do business with TROS USA--they seem to be the type to make promises they can't keep.

Edit 11/20/11: Sent an email at the eight week mark asking for a refund, and it was also ignored. Smells more and more like a scam--quick to make the sale and receive the money, slow to never on delivery.

Edit 11/21/11: Finally got an email back from Mark. He's started the adapter but has decided to send a refund because it would take another 4 weeks to get it sent out for black oxiding. When I get the refund, I'll update this thread to say that TROS USA is just really sloooooow.

Edit 11/25/11: Got the refund check promptly as promised. Thanks, Mark! So, I can say that TROS USA is at least on the level, just slow to produce custom thread adapters.

The good news for some lucky FS2000 owner is that Mark has exactly one thread adapter that will be sent to black oxide finishing that could be purchased "in stock" in a month or so.

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mfiap is selling a brake that covers both dents. it also meets oal of 30.
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Has anyone used the MFI barrel extension on their PS90? Are you satisfied? Any concerns about carbon buildup and ammo requirements as noted on their site?
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Great job on the Raddlock. Hopefully some folks will begin working on a proposition/initative lawsuit to kill off the need for Raddlocks and BB. Until then thank you Raddlock. Without your efforts my safe would be rather mundane to say the least...
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Old 01-21-2012, 3:47 AM
Zippiot Zippiot is offline
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Thank You for the thread necromancy because my FN FS2000 gets here next week!
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Old 02-20-2012, 4:09 PM
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Um...what is that side rail actually covering up? Why is it necessary to install along with the raddlock?

I love that there IS a raddlock available now for the FS2000. Gotta love it.
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