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Old 03-06-2009, 12:01 AM
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this is true but they would absolutly destroy the mag trying and render it useless . I make them very permanent. Be a jynormous waste for 2 rounds.


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I have several permanently modified 10/30 pmags. After reading some recent threads on the definition of permanency, Iíve decided that Iíd feel safer converting my 10/30ís to 10 round mags. From an earlier thread someone stated that a cut down 30 gives you a 12 round mag.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=116173

Is that with the stock 30 round follower? Is there another way I can cut my 30ís to 10ís?
The thread you link to uses 20rd mags, not 30.
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I have several permanently modified 10/30 pmags. After reading some recent threads on the definition of permanency, Iíve decided that Iíd feel safer converting my 10/30ís to 10 round mags. From an earlier thread someone stated that a cut down 30 gives you a 12 round mag.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=116173

Is that with the stock 30 round follower? Is there another way I can cut my 30ís to 10ís?
I will send you 3 used metal bushmaster 10rd mags, send me three of your 10/30 mags.
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Wish Magpul would go ahead and do them from the factory. How do you guys resist just putting together your parts kit the way it was meant to be?

Stupid arbitary California laws.
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How do you guys resist just putting together your parts kit the way it was meant to be?
Because I don't wanna go from this: (_i_) to this: (_O_)
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Can you just use a rivet to block the follower like the USGI mags?
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hmrf. i measured exactly what the instructions say, and it only fits 7 rds!!!

time to start cutting again
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hmrf. i measured exactly what the instructions say, and it only fits 7 rds!!!

time to start cutting again

i had to cut 1/2 inch more off for it to hold 10 rds
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I did a version of this with my 30 round PMAG rebuild kits but took some of the better ideas I saw elsewhere, and incorporated them.

Here's what I did:

Four 30 round PMAG rebuild kits:


Hanger (which fits perfectly into the spring support on the bottom of the follower) to sacrifice in the name of CA legality:


Load 10 rounds on a follower without a spring, and measure distance from inside of spring support to base of mag (M-16 brush fits perfectly also, and marked it with a razor knife slice into the brush side):


Measure the distance:


Cut the hanger, and drill hole through follower with hanger piece installed:


Secure with pan head screw (to keep it from rubbing on the inside of the mag):


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Check distance to baseplate with 10 rounds installed:


Trim to fit:


Epoxy in place (I used JBWeld):


Make sure they can only hold 10 rounds with base plate installed (start off cutting long, and file the piece of hanger to exact fit):


I also drilled a 1/8" hole through the base plate (when installed), and mag body, and JBWelded a piece of 1/8" rod through it so the base plate could not be removed. Cut the ends flush with the sides, and PRESTO! 10/30 PMAG goodness.


Thanks to the OP for the idea, and others for the improvements to a great idea.
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Can you just use a rivet to block the follower like the USGI mags?
I'd like to know the answer to this too.
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I updated the first post

( ** I have been told by a couple people that on the new PMags this is too long and they are making their rods 4-5/8" long. I have not confirmed this. I would make the rod long. Reassemble and test. Cut a little off and repeat until it holds ten and only ten***)
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I did ten mags the other night and shot all of them yesterday. 4 5/8" on the new style mags gives you exactly ten rounds and leaves just barely enough room to get the baseplate off.

I used 3/8" OD aluminum round and 3/32" roll pins with a 3/32" drill bit for the roll pins through the follower and the 3/8" pin.
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Thank you for confirming the 'new' measurement

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Thanks for the DIY posting. I was using one in my rifle at the range yesterday, and they are excellent.
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I used a 30 rounder with the window, a 10 rd spring, and 19 highly polished expended cases. Works great except for the length hitting my vfg when loading. Looks awesome in my opinion.

I've seen these for sale locally for like $75/ea

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Sadly, I had to use a similar method to make a 10/19 mag for the XDm I picked up (and sold the next day). That was counter-productive...
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So, if I were to mess up my follower and needed to get a new one, are there and places that sell just the PMAG anti-tilt follower?
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So, if I were to mess up my follower and needed to get a new one, are there and places that sell just the PMAG anti-tilt follower?
So far I have only found the rebuild kits on Brownells that include the dust cover.

if you find some, please let me know
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close enough! $5 is better then a whole extra mag
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aren't the USGI followers not compatible with pmags?
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Correct. USGI followers wont work in the PMag with out some cutting
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Man you guys are makeing this all to hard , first off buy a mag from riflegear take it apart and measurs the platisc block in it , go to wall mart buy a dam plastic cuting board you cut meat on measure the block out and cut them and put them in your Mag and pin the bottom back and expoxy the bottom ,, thats it , so dam easy. none of this useing coat hanger as doww. use a plastic block, so much faster and easier

and for the ones who want the mag rebuild kits go to gun brocker look for this or go to his link here hes sell mag kits to cali
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction...Item=128756280

just copy and paste ,, if this one is sold look in his other items for sell
theyll say California Rep Kits

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Man you guys are makeing this all to hard , first off buy a mag from riflegear take it apart and measurs the platisc block in it , go to wall mart buy a dam plastic cuting board you cut meat on measure the block out and cut them and put them in your Mag and pin the bottom back and expoxy the bottom ,, thats it , so dam easy. none of this useing coat hanger as doww. use a plastic block, so much faster and easier

and for the ones who want the mag rebuild kits go to gun brocker look for this or go to his link here hes sell mag kits to cali
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction...Item=128756280

just copy and paste ,, if this one is sold look in his other items for sell
theyll say California Rep Kits
Could we have that again in English?
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whats to explain

Buy a riflegear 10/20 or 10/ 30
take apart measure the plastic block in it
go buy a cutting board 3/8 inch thick
measure it out on the block ,then cut it out and put the piece in the mag test it make sure you have only ten rounds , if so
put a pin in the bottom then expoxy the bottom plate on

and if you want rebuild kits go to here good price
http://v4.beta.gunbroker.com/Auction...Item=128756280

not hard at all
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all that when 10 rd mags are around.....I don't need a fake mag, lol
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Ya but they look good in your weapon
i have all three version and like all the 10 10/20 10/ 30

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Ya but they look good in your weapon
i have all three version and like all the 10 10/20 10/ 30
if you like a reminder of our restrictions, might as well be a big ....lol....
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if you like a reminder of our restrictions, might as well be a big ....lol....
well we only have restriction to full capacity mags 20/30 or anything over 10 rounds , that is if they can hold anything over ten rouns..
If you had them before the bann your ok to
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well we only have restriction to full capacity mags 20/30 or anything over 10 rounds , that is if they can hold anything over ten rouns..
If you had them before the bann your ok to
so what you getting at
Are you typing with your stumps or just banging your head against the keyboard?




You cannot even use pre-ban 30 rd mags in your gun unless it's a registered AW. Maybe you should stop posting until you can straighten out your fud and your grammar.
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You cannot even use pre-ban 30 rd mags in your gun unless it's a registered AW.
You can if it's featureless
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thats my point ,, you have senior guys in here talking to everyone and they dont even understand the state laws, think that funny
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You can if it's featureless
That's correct, I was just making a blanket statement to cover my real intent which was solely to poke fun at his spelling and grammar.
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& if you are featureless you wouldn't be building 10 rounders
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That's correct, I was just making a blanket statement to cover my real intent which was solely to poke fun at his spelling and grammar.
hahaha ... I'm just giving you sh*t. No harm, no foul
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Man you guys are makeing this all to hard , first off buy a mag from riflegear take it apart and measurs the platisc block in it , go to wall mart buy a dam plastic cuting board you cut meat on measure the block out and cut them and put them in your Mag and pin the bottom back and expoxy the bottom ,, thats it , so dam easy. none of this useing coat hanger as doww. use a plastic block, so much faster and easier
Faster and easier, maybe. But it also renders the magazine impossible to disassemble and clean.
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Faster and easier, maybe. But it also renders the magazine impossible to disassemble and clean.
Well that defeats the purpose of makeing it to meet California Standard to be able to Have leagal. If you can disassemble it to clean then it doesnt meet it to be leagal unless you had it before the bann and you are registered as a AW.


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