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Old 09-02-2008, 5:40 PM
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Default Stumped: What's the Diff Between a Savage 110 and 111?

I reccomended a 110 to a buddy I work with, he said he found a 111, with a scope, for a decent price.

I suspect 111 designates a package deal with a scope and rings, but can't find the answer online other then here.

A little help?

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Old 09-02-2008, 5:43 PM
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A 111 is for their short action calibers (223, 243, 308, etc.) and the 110 is for their long action calibers (270, 30-06, etc.)
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I *think* the difference is in action length...110 is a short action, 111 is long.

Nope...I'm wrong. That's the 10 vs 110.

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A 111 is for their short action calibers (223, 243, 308, etc.) and the 110 is for their long action calibers (270, 30-06, etc.)
no.... 10 and 11 are short action calibers, 110 and 111 are long action. 10/110 are blind magazine guns, and 11/111 are detachable magazine guns
also, the receivers have different cuts which dosent allow changing between blind mags and detachable mags without allot work.
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no.... 10 and 11 are short action calibers, 110 and 111 are long action. 10/110 are blind magazine guns, and 11/111 are detachable magazine guns
also, the receivers have different cuts which dosent allow changing between blind mags and detachable mags without allot work.
I have a 110 with a factory detachable magazine.
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I have a 110 with a factory detachable magazine.
hmmmm..... looks like 10/110 are package guns including simmions scopes and 11/111 are hunter series
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My father has a 110 in .243, and another one in .204 Ruger. Both have internal magazines, neither came with a scope.
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10/110 is the overall designation. 11/111 are short/long versions of the hunter series. If it has a detachable mag it will have a C. NS = No Sights, F=plastic stock, G=wood stock, etc.
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Savage has changed the features associated with the 110 series of guns over the years.

The original Savage series were all designated as the 110 series and were all long actions, even the guns chambered in short action calibers. Over the years they came in both internal magazine and detachable magazine models under the same names.

In the late 80s or early 90s Savage changed to two action lengths (actually they even stretched the long action to chamber the RUM cartridges) and changed the designations to 2 digits for short actions and three digits for long actions.
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I have a Savage 110E chambered in .223 Remington and it is a long action rifle with a blind magazine. It's about 18 years old.
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Here's the history of the Savage 110 series:

The Model 110E was the first version; it was introduced in 1963 and produced until 1988. The Model 110E originally had a plain hardwood stock with a Monte Carlo comb; in the 1980s, checkering was added to the pistol grip wrist and fore-end. For most of its production history, the Model 110E was made only in .22-250, 5.56mm, and 7mm Magnum, but more chamberings were added in the 1970s and 1980s. It uses a 22-inch barrel. The Model 110EL was a left-handed version of the Model 110E; it was restricted to 7mm Magnum and .30-06, and was built only in small numbers. (For game purposes, it is identical to the standard Model 110E in the same chamberings.) The Model 110ES (also known as the Super Value) was sold under the Stevens name from 1981-85, and included a 4x telescopic sight and mounts, a hardwood stock with plain checkering, and a 22-inch tapered barrel with a folding leaf rear sight and drilling and tapping. Soon after the introduction of the Model 110E, the Model 110M was announced; this is a magnum-firing version of the Model 110E, produced from 1963-73, and had a 24-inch barrel, a recoil pad on the butt, and an enlarged bolt-face recess and long action. The Model 110ML is a left-handed version of the Model 110M, produced in the same chamberings as the Model 110M.

From 1964-80, the Model 110P (Premier Grade) was produced; it was a deluxe version of the Model 110E. It was chambered only in a few calibers, used a 24-inch barrel for the 7mm Magnum version, and had a French walnut stock with a half-length fore-end and a roll-over Monte Carlo comb. The fore-end had a rosewood endcap, and the checkering on the pistol grip wrist and fore-end had a skip-line pattern. The Model 110PE Presentation Grade model is even more fancy than the Model 110P, with engraving on the receiver, trigger guard, magazine floorplate, and stock; and they rarely were fitted with iron sights (though they were always drilled and tapped). They are otherwise identical for game purposes to the Model 110P. While the Model 110PE is rare, the Model 110PEL left-handed version is virtually never seen. The Model 110P also had a left-handed version, the Model 110PL.

The Model 110C was produced from 1966-86. It is essentially a Model 110E with a detachable magazine and some improvements, most notably a new, more powerful extractor. Most Model 110Cs have 22-inch barrels, but two chamberings (introduced in 1979) -- .22-250 and .25-06 – had 24-inch barrels in addition to 22-inch barrel versions. (Neither of these 24-inch barrel versions proved popular; the .25-06 model was taken out of the line in 1982, and the .22-250 version was gone by 1985.) The Model 110CL is a left-handed version of the Model 110C, restricted to .243, .270, 7mm Magnum, and .30-06. The Model 110CY Youth rifle was introduced in 1992 and is still being produced; it has a shorter stock, but is otherwise identical to the Model 110C. It was introduced in .243 and .250 Savage, but more chamberings were added as time went by, and the .250 Savage version was removed from the market in 1995.

The Model 110D is similar to the Model 110C, but had a detachable floorplate enclosing a magazine. It was produced from 1972-88, and had somewhat different chamberings than the Model 110E or 110C. A left-handed model, the Model 110DL, was also produced.

There were two versions called the Model 110B; the first one was produced from 1976-89. It was basically a Model 110E with a select-quality walnut stock, and chambered only for .243, .270, 7mm Magnum, .30-06, and .338 Magnum. It also had a left-handed version which was produced until 1991. The second Model 110B was a variant of the Model 110G, produced from 1989-91; it had some extra chamberings, had a simple brown-stained hardwood stock with a non-slip rubber shoulder plate. It was made only in small numbers.

The Model 110S Silhouette rifle was built from 1978-94; it was chambered only for 7.62mm, and used a 22-inch heavy tapered barrel. The stock had a high comb, and the pistol grip wrist was stippled instead of checkered.

The Model 110V is a version of the Model 110D, but was a varmint rifle with a heavy 26-inch barrel that had no iron sights. For most of its history, the Model 110V was chambered only for .22-250, but in 1986, a 5.56mm version was introduced, and then quickly withdrawn. The Model 110V was built from 1983-94.

From 1986-94, the limited-edition Model 110K was produced; it had a laminated camouflage-finish stock, was chambered only for .243, .270, 7mm Magnum, .30-06, and .338 Magnum, and is otherwise identical to the Model 110D.

The Model 110F was produced from 1987-94. It used a straight-comb black Rynite stock, but was otherwise similar to the other Model 110 rifles of the time. Variants included the left-handed Model 110FL. The Model 110FP Police rifle was introduced in 1990 and is still being produced; it has a 24-inch barrel, a non-reflective finish for the metalwork. In 1995, the initial Model 110FP was replaced by the Model 110FP Police Tactical rifle; this version has a graphite/fiberglass stock with a glass fiber barrel bedding system, sling swivels, and more chamberings (the first version of the Model 110FP was chambered only in 5.56mm and 7.62mm). The Model 110FL is a left-handed variant of the Model 110F; the Model 110FLP is a left-handed variant of the Model 110FP (and is still being produced. The Model 110FNS has no iron sights, but is otherwise identical to the Model 110F. The Model 110FX is also virtually identical to the Model 110F, but has a Weaver sight base machined integral to the receiver. The Model 110FM, also known as the Sierra, has the graphite/fiberglass composite stock, but only a 20-inch tapered barrel, and is much lighter than the standard Model 110F.

The Model 110G was produced from 1989-94. The rifle used a 22-inch barrel for standard chamberings, and a 24-inch barrel for magnum chamberings. The stock was of beech, with a non-slip rubber buttplate. One of the chamberings was .300 Savage, but after numerous complaints about cracked stocks, this chambering was withdrawn in 1995, after two years. The Model 110G had an internal magazine, but the Model 110GC, produced from 1992-94, had a detachable box magazine. The Model 110GL was the left-handed version. The Model 110 GNS and GLNS were versions of the standard and left-handed models with no iron sights. These two rifles in addition to the Model 110GL were restricted to .270 Winchester, 7mm Magnum, and .30-06. The Model 110GV is a varmint rifle version with a heavy barrel. The Model 110GX is a version of the standard Model 110G with a Weaver scope base. The Model 110WLE (also known as the One in a Thousand series) is a special version of the Model 110G, with a select-quality walnut stock, a laser-etched Savage logo on the bolt, and a stock strong enough to use .250 and .300 Savage rounds. It is otherwise identical to the Model 110G for game purposes.
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The difference between 111 and 110 is 1


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OK, it's certainly not long vs short action, on their website, Savage lists a 110 long action model in 30-06.

I think it may be 110 is wood, 111 is synthetic.

Can anyone confirm this? Also, I read about a new aluminum integrated synthetic stock they are coming out with, has anyone used a rifle so equipped yet?

Thanks for the input all.
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OK, it's certainly not long vs short action, on their website, Savage lists a 110 long action model in 30-06.
30-06 is a long action caliber.

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I think it may be 110 is wood, 111 is synthetic.
No. G=wood F=synthetic.
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What the hell is "type J"? I have 110C type J
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30-06 is a long action caliber.

No. G=wood F=synthetic.

I know 30-06 is a long action caliber. My dad has a 110 in .243, which is a necked down .308, which is a short action. So 110s come in both long and short actions.

A poster above specualted that 110=short and 111=long, but that's not the distinction.

I'm just trying to decipher what the difference is between a 110 and a 111.
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LMAO

It goes to 11 !


The J series Savages were long actions that were cut with smaller magazine and ejection port openings. The exterior lengths were the same as the regular long actions but the stock screw spacing was shorter and they were chambered in short action calibers.

If you order a replacement stock for it, you have to specify that it's for a J series.
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